Beerjeezus Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Hermione said: Lol I hadn't heard that theory, I know people like to make everything about Billie's drinking but I'm not buying it . Sounds like a sweet love song about being away on the road to me, 2000 Light Years Away part 2! Me neither I just remembered I've seen that theory floating around a couple years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said: Me neither I just remembered I've seen that theory floating around a couple years ago. It would be quite hilarious if it was, being romantically and sexually attracted to booze and dreaming of kissing its lips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Hermione said: It would be quite hilarious if it was, being romantically and sexually attracted to booze and dreaming of kissing its lips See?! Genius metaphor! Something like the Brandy/Mandy song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 20 minutes ago, Hermione said: Yeah possibly, but the way it talks about being away from the person ("you're out of sight but not out of mind", "I'll spend the night living in denial" etc) gives me a being far away from them/pining for them/lusting for them 2000 Light Years Away type of vibe (a lot of the lyrics are very reminiscent of "I sit alone in my bedroom staring at the walls, I've been up all damn night long, my pulse is speeding, my love is yearning, I hold my breath and close my eyes and think about her cause she's 2000 light years away" imo). The way he describes waking up like that makes me think of waking up in a hotel room and wishing she was there. It's open to different interpretations of course but I think of it that way and pair it up with Missing You (they even both have lines that are typical of the way he describes himself and Adrienne: "I'm a mess and you're a work of art" and "you're not around and I'm a complete disaster"). Why would he be in denial about his feelings for his own wife though? The very title of the song suggests he's just fallen for someone and is in denial about it but still dreaming of kissing their lips and it's literally making him sweat. Also I'm assuming if he's fallen for someone while married he would be away from them most of the time. It would also explain the denial and sweating to the point of thinking you pissed yourself!! I think it's pretty straightforward. A song about lust. He did say they were on the albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Why would he be in denial about his feelings for his own wife though? The very title of the song suggests he's just fallen for someone and is in denial about it but still dreaming of kissing their lips and it's literally making him sweat. Also I'm assuming if he's fallen for someone while married he would be away from them most of the time. It would also explain the denial and sweating to the point of thinking you pissed yourself!! I think it's pretty straightforward. A song about lust. He did say they were on the albums. I take "I'll spend the night living in denial" to mean spend the night in sexual denial/denial of affection because she's not there . I agree it's about lust but sounds like a song written from the point of view of being away (eg on tour) to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 56 minutes ago, Hermione said: I take "I'll spend the night living in denial" to mean spend the night in sexual denial/denial of affection because she's not there . I agree it's about lust but sounds like a song written from the point of view of being away (eg on tour) to me. But why is he repeatedly singing "I had a dream that I kissed your lips and it felt so true then I woke up as a nervous wreck and I fell for you" It seems very clear he's nervous because he's just fallen for someone and he's even dreaming about kissing them. It makes no sense to be about his wife of nearly 20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Ok this has gone on far enough it's time to tell everyone a secret... all the songs Billie writes are about... cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 28 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: But why is he repeatedly singing "I had a dream that I kissed your lips and it felt so true then I woke up as a nervous wreck and I fell for you" It seems very clear he's nervous because he's just fallen for someone and he's even dreaming about kissing them. It makes no sense to be about his wife of nearly 20 years The scene I picture is he's away in a hotel and has a restless night feeling in a state/frustrated and missing her because she's not there. I don't know who it's about for sure but I don't see why it couldn't be about his wife, they're not dead yet and he's mentioned getting in a bad mood on tour when she hasn't been there and he hasn't "got laid" for a couple of weeks at least once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 45 minutes ago, Hermione said: The scene I picture is he's away in a hotel and has a restless night feeling in a state/frustrated and missing her because she's not there. I don't know who it's about for sure but I don't see why it couldn't be about his wife, they're not dead yet and he's mentioned getting in a bad mood on tour when she hasn't been there and he hasn't "got laid" for a couple of weeks at least once That's a nice scene you've conjured up but you're ignoring the song title and lyrics! I'll let you believe whatever you want though It is more likely to be about cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 53 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: That's a nice scene you've conjured up but you're ignoring the song title and lyrics! I'll let you believe whatever you want though It is more likely to be about cheese Not at all, I've just interpreted them differently to you And yes he might've had a better night's sleep if he'd skipped the cheese on toast before bed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 27 minutes ago, Hermione said: Not at all, I've just interpreted them differently to you And yes he might've had a better night's sleep if he'd skipped the cheese on toast before bed Riiiight and I interpreted Fuck Time to be about buying a new puppy with lyrics like "I really want to make you mine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayTheory Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Riiiight and I interpreted Fuck Time to be about buying a new puppy with lyrics like "I really want to make you mine" That is Genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 18 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Riiiight and I interpreted Fuck Time to be about buying a new puppy with lyrics like "I really want to make you mine" You do realize that music can be interpreted in different ways, right? Aso, Hermione isn't saying that's what the song is about. All she's said is that some of the lyrics reminds her of a 2000 light years away kind of vibe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 I love how we have 10 pages of conversation that basically is nothing but a heated debate about who gdc thinks Billie Joe wants to fuck masked as analyzing his lyrics 1 hour ago, Hermione said: Not at all, I've just interpreted them differently to you And yes he might've had a better night's sleep if he'd skipped the cheese on toast before bed By the way, is cheese on toast British for grilled cheese or is it a different meal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 It's the same. Love that this thread, entertaining as it has been, has become about cheese. I would say we will never know about a lot of these songs. We know that Billie sometimes says random things when asked about songs because sometimes he doesn't want to discuss them and other trimes he just can't be bothered to discuss them but I think there is another point of view missing too. He could be writing about things his friends are going through as well as himself, after all, his two closest friends are both twice divorced. I am sure he is influenced by many thing and that some songs are really quite an accurate reflection of events or how he feels, and others just happen to fit together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Jane Lannister said: I love how we have 10 pages of conversation that basically is nothing but a heated debate about who gdc thinks Billie Joe wants to fuck masked as analyzing his lyrics By the way, is cheese on toast British for grilled cheese or is it a different meal? Yeah same as grilled cheese! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hermione said: Yeah same as grilled cheese! Thank you now I want some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moongirl Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hi people! New to the forum, I came looking for information about Amanda (a character that always seemed so misterious and alluring to me) and found this great thread. just wanted to add that according to Billie Joe himself, since Amanda left him she's been inspiring songs in almost every album, and finally he decided to call her by her real name (he says so before playing 'Amanda' in Red7 back in 2011, the video is in Youtube - i'm sure many of you saw it). That seems pretty much like a lost love to me. And love can take many forms. She must have been the love he wanted to die for, while Adrienne may be the love he stayed alive because of. Human nature is such a complex thing. (Like in the Residents' song: "There's something I must tell you There's something I must say The only really perfect love Is one that gets away') So its inspiring and intense to keep you writing great songs, but that doesn't mean it could work out. I also read in one book that when Amanda left him Billie would call Adrienne to talk things through and eventually convinced her of moving to the East Bay. So for sure -they were friends, they cared for each other enough to be honest about other people, and gave it a try. I don't think you marry anyone just out of romance and lust -it's more of getting things done, partnership and a day to day life that works, not very intense in a romantic way -just another kind of love, more down to earth but still beautiful. So in my opinion Billie has always been more inspired by Amanda, cause she stayed in that fantasy world of rebellion and anti authoritarism that presented such a challenge for him opposed to stablishment, and knowing he was a working class fellow looking his way up in music (and an astute business man today) there's where he may be getting the inspiration from.. Not sayin Adrienne isn't important in his writing, it's just how things are when you write songs -not so easy to write great intense stuff about people you share your day to day with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 AHHH!!! THE THREAD LIVES!!!! Welcome @moongirl you sure picked a fun thread for your first post. Great comments too. Love is a strange thing, made all the stranger when you're a teenager. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Ha...the thread is back! I will say then that Arica Pelino is in Turn It Around The Story of East Bay Punk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundercatmary Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Ha...the thread is back! I will say then that Arica Pelino is in Turn It Around The Story of East Bay Punk. That's cool, is she in it much or just something brief? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moongirl Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 4 hours ago, pacejunkie punk said: AHHH!!! THE THREAD LIVES!!!! Welcome @moongirl you sure picked a fun thread for your first post. Great comments too. Love is a strange thing, made all the stranger when you're a teenager. 🙂 Thank you! so much good stuff here to read. I guess I 'd be one of the oldest freaks around, quoting the Residents and such Hope to have a day off soon so I can catch up with the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 32 minutes ago, thundercatmary said: That's cool, is she in it much or just something brief? I haven't seen it yet but I heard she's in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Truong Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 53 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Ha...the thread is back! I will say then that Arica Pelino is in Turn It Around The Story of East Bay Punk. is she another unknown-girl-that-billie-hookedup-early days?.. I always wonder how many exgf-friend does he has..does he wrote about her too? Arica Pelino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacejunkie punk Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 35 minutes ago, Caroline Truong said: is she another unknown-girl-that-billie-hookedup-early days?.. I always wonder how many exgf-friend does he has..does he wrote about her too? Arica Pelino. Arica is the same as Erica I believe (?) If so, she said Christie Road was about her because they used to go there together but this was not confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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