GreenDayTheory Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Any Half-step down songs to play on guitar because I recently tuned my guitar to Half-step down and maybe keeping that tuning to my guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Gotsis Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Before The Lobotomy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Everything up to Insomniac, (1039/kerplunk weren't accurate turnings but sound better at half step) Nimrod: take back Warning: Waiting 21Century Breakdown and Before the lobotomy. Go a full a step down and you can play Restless Heart Syndrome Rev Rad: Young Blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imXieli Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 fun GD fact: dookie isn't exactly in half step tuning. it's close but not exact. every time i play along to basket case in half step it sounds fuckin weird. if you set your guitar tuner to 444hz (if i remember correctly) instead of 440hz then tune to half step down then you got yourself dookie tuning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, imXieli said: fun GD fact: dookie isn't exactly in half step tuning. it's close but not exact. every time i play along to basket case in half step it sounds fuckin weird. if you set your guitar tuner to 444hz (if i remember correctly) instead of 440hz then tune to half step down then you got yourself dookie tuning Same as the 1039/ kerplunk. In fact if you play the songs from Slappy at like a full step down it sounds better than half a step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtrudel Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 1,039 was either E standard or D standard. Any track from 1,000 hours is badly tuned but E flat is the closest (even though I think they were aiming for E standard) Kerplunk-Insomniac are all tuned E-flat Nimrod is all E standard Warning - Castaway and Misery are tuned to E flat, the rest are E standard International Superhits - Maria+Poprock&Coke are on E standard, J.A.R. on E flat Shenanigans is heavily mixed between E standard and E flat because is has many sessions from many areas, do not attempt to play it from start to finish ever American Idiot - E standard, Whatsername on Drop D 21st Centublabla - the title track and Before The Lobotomy (maybe See The Light too?) are on E flat and the rest are E standard Trilogy - all E standard iirc Rev Rad - don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walking_c0ntradicti0n Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 If you're looking for something to play that isn't Green Day, Rise Against tunes a lot of their songs half step down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jonny Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Kerplunk! has some fun one's! Just played One Of My Lies today, so simple, but so good! Android also kicks ass, I just play the basslines on guitar haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyChunks Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 10 hours ago, imXieli said: fun GD fact: dookie isn't exactly in half step tuning. it's close but not exact. every time i play along to basket case in half step it sounds fuckin weird. if you set your guitar tuner to 444hz (if i remember correctly) instead of 440hz then tune to half step down then you got yourself dookie tuning I've never picked up on this but at the same time I don't have a great ear. The album sounds pretty true a half step down to me but I bet you're right since I'm just a hobbyist and not especially skilled. Assuming you're right, is it unusual for a major label release like this to have such unorthodox tuning? Why would this have occurred? Is it as simple as them picking 444hz and saying "well that sounds great" and going with it? Thanks for picking up on this- you learn something new every day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayTheory Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 16 hours ago, imXieli said: fun GD fact: dookie isn't exactly in half step tuning. it's close but not exact. every time i play along to basket case in half step it sounds fuckin weird. if you set your guitar tuner to 444hz (if i remember correctly) instead of 440hz then tune to half step down then you got yourself dookie tuning Never heard that before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imXieli Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 12 hours ago, TimmyChunks said: I've never picked up on this but at the same time I don't have a great ear. The album sounds pretty true a half step down to me but I bet you're right since I'm just a hobbyist and not especially skilled. Assuming you're right, is it unusual for a major label release like this to have such unorthodox tuning? Why would this have occurred? Is it as simple as them picking 444hz and saying "well that sounds great" and going with it? Thanks for picking up on this- you learn something new every day! yeah it's odd it's something you don't really notice until you play along with the song through the same speaker (like my guitar amp has an aux in so i can play along with songs). like i just tested it again a second ago and tuning the guitar to half step down in 444hz matches welcome to paradise exactly. the thing that throws me off for some reason is that if you listen to the studio version and the awesome as fuck live version back to back theres no discernible difference but one would think the boys would be in proper tuning after all these years?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 6 hours ago, imXieli said: yeah it's odd it's something you don't really notice until you play along with the song through the same speaker (like my guitar amp has an aux in so i can play along with songs). like i just tested it again a second ago and tuning the guitar to half step down in 444hz matches welcome to paradise exactly. the thing that throws me off for some reason is that if you listen to the studio version and the awesome as fuck live version back to back theres no discernible difference but one would think the boys would be in proper tuning after all these years?? True, playing along to Pasalaqua from 1039 and AAF you have to adjust the tuning to make it match the record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imXieli Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Justin said: True, playing along to Pasalaqua from 1039 and AAF you have to adjust the tuning to make it match the record i think pasalacqua is like a quarter step down at 440 or something on the record. like they were aiming for standard and billie couldnt quite hit the notes so they just tuned a bit lower so he could, but for some reason they didnt wanna go all the way to half step down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clean Cut Asshole Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Alright, here's the tuning for all the Green Day stuff: 1,000 Hours EP - quarter step down 39/Smooth - E standard Slappy EP - D standard (except Knowledge in E standard) Sweet Children EP to Insomniac - Eb (half-step down) Nimrod - E standard Warning - E standard (except Castaway and Misery in Eb) American Idiot - E standard (except Whatsername in Drop D) 21st Century Breakdown - E standard (except the title track and Before the Lobotomy in Eb, Restless Heart Syndrome in D standard) Trilogy - E standard Revolution Radio - E standard You might have to be a little sharp or flat for the early records, but generally these are the right tunings! As for stuff that isn't GD that's in Eb, Nirvana had a lot of stuff in Eb. Anything from the In Utero era is almost entirely in Eb (except Heart-Shaped Box, All Apologies, I Hate Myself and I Wanna Die and the Unplugged version of On a Plain in Drop C#). A couple of songs from Bleach and Incestiside are Eb too (Floyd the Barber, Paper Cuts, Downer, Beeswax, Mexican Seafood, Hairspray Queen, Aero Zeppelin). The first two Weezer albums are in Eb, pretty much anything by Jimi Hendrix, Alice in Chains, Slayer (post-Haunting the Chapel), Motorhead (post-Overkill). Also, if you're into the Gilman/Lookout scene, a lot of those bands played in Eb too like Crimpshrine (their last EP is a quarter step down though), Tilt, Screeching Weasel's How to Make Enemies and Irritate People album, etc. There's plenty of stuff in Eb tuning for you to play if you decide to keep your guitar tuned to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Big Cheese said: Alright, here's the tuning for all the Green Day stuff: 1,000 Hours EP - quarter step down 39/Smooth - E standard Slappy EP - D standard (except Knowledge in E standard) Sweet Children EP to Insomniac - Eb (half-step down) Nimrod - E standard Warning - E standard (except Castaway and Misery in Eb) American Idiot - E standard (except Whatsername in Drop D) 21st Century Breakdown - E standard (except the title track and Before the Lobotomy in Eb, Restless Heart Syndrome in D standard) Trilogy - E standard Revolution Radio - E standard You might have to be a little sharp or flat for the early records, but generally these are the right tunings! As for stuff that isn't GD that's in Eb, Nirvana had a lot of stuff in Eb. Anything from the In Utero era is almost entirely in Eb (except Heart-Shaped Box, All Apologies, I Hate Myself and I Wanna Die and the Unplugged version of On a Plain in Drop C#). A couple of songs from Bleach and Incestiside are Eb too (Floyd the Barber, Paper Cuts, Downer, Beeswax, Mexican Seafood, Hairspray Queen, Aero Zeppelin). The first two Weezer albums are in Eb, pretty much anything by Jimi Hendrix, Alice in Chains, Slayer (post-Haunting the Chapel), Motorhead (post-Overkill). Also, if you're into the Gilman/Lookout scene, a lot of those bands played in Eb too like Crimpshrine (their last EP is a quarter step down though), Tilt, Screeching Weasel's How to Make Enemies and Irritate People album, etc. There's plenty of stuff in Eb tuning for you to play if you decide to keep your guitar tuned to that! You forgot Take Back on Nimrod, Young Blood from Rev Rad and Waiting for Warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clean Cut Asshole Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Justin said: You forgot Take Back on Nimrod, Young Blood from Rev Rad and Waiting for Warning. No, Take Back and Waiting are in E standard. I'm not sure about Youngblood though, I'd have to listen to it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric503 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I think from the videos I saw, Youngblood is half-step down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayTheory Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Ric503 said: I think from the videos I saw, Youngblood is half-step down It sounds perfectly on E Standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imXieli Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 17 hours ago, Justin said: You forgot Take Back on Nimrod, Young Blood from Rev Rad and Waiting for Warning. all of these songs are standard. Waiting is in all different tunings depending on how you see it.sometimes it's standard, other times he plays it in e flat so he can do open chords on the bridge (i, personally, prefer to do this when playing but it's not how it was recorded). at starland ballroom billie played it in standard, but with the chord positioning like it was flat so the song was actually a half step higher. Billie just chooses to use blue for youngblood, as jason and mike still use their standard tuned instruments and play it in that way. Take Back is basically a typical GD song with four chords so it doesn't really matter, it's just easier to say standard to keep it in style with the album. sorry to everyone about being in this thread like holy hell guitar stuff is kinda my thing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 4 hours ago, imXieli said: all of these songs are standard. Waiting is in all different tunings depending on how you see it.sometimes it's standard, other times he plays it in e flat so he can do open chords on the bridge (i, personally, prefer to do this when playing but it's not how it was recorded). at starland ballroom billie played it in standard, but with the chord positioning like it was flat so the song was actually a half step higher. Billie just chooses to use blue for youngblood, as jason and mike still use their standard tuned instruments and play it in that way. Take Back is basically a typical GD song with four chords so it doesn't really matter, it's just easier to say standard to keep it in style with the album. sorry to everyone about being in this thread like holy hell guitar stuff is kinda my thing lol Interesting, I also prefer Waiting in EFlat, I have all the licensed sheet music books and they say those songs are in éflat which was why I thought it was. But they're all interpretations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayTheory Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 10 hours ago, imXieli said: all of these songs are standard. Waiting is in all different tunings depending on how you see it.sometimes it's standard, other times he plays it in e flat so he can do open chords on the bridge (i, personally, prefer to do this when playing but it's not how it was recorded). at starland ballroom billie played it in standard, but with the chord positioning like it was flat so the song was actually a half step higher. Billie just chooses to use blue for youngblood, as jason and mike still use their standard tuned instruments and play it in that way. Take Back is basically a typical GD song with four chords so it doesn't really matter, it's just easier to say standard to keep it in style with the album. sorry to everyone about being in this thread like holy hell guitar stuff is kinda my thing lol If he uses it for Blue,it should be 1 fret higher and it works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayTheory Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 Also,Is Dreamcatcher half-step down? It sounds like it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imXieli Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 22 hours ago, Justin said: Interesting, I also prefer Waiting in EFlat, I have all the licensed sheet music books and they say those songs are in éflat which was why I thought it was. But they're all interpretations have you looked at the dookie book? burnout says its in standard lol. i personally don't trust those no matter how "official" they are 16 hours ago, GreenDayTheory said: If he uses it for Blue,it should be 1 fret higher and it works fine. exactly. jason and mike play the main riff like this tuned to standard C#5 F#5 G#5 E|-----------------------| B|-----------------------| G|--6-6-6---------------| D|--6-6-6--4-4--6-6-6-| A|--4-4-4--4-4--6-6-6-| E|----------2-2--4-4-4-| billie plays it like so tuned to eflat D5 G5 A5 eb|------------------------| Bb|------------------------| F#|--7-7-7---------------| C#|--7-7-7--5-5--7-7-7-| G#|--5-5-5--5-5--7-7-7-| Eb|----------3-3--5-5-5-| OR like this (it's open chords, billie plays like this a lot if he can i've noticed) D G A eb|--2-2-2--3-3----------| Bb|--3-3-3--3-3--2-2-2-| F#|--2-2-2--0-0--2-2-2-| C#|--0-0-0--0-0--2-2-2-| G#|----------x-x--0-0-0-| Eb|-----------3-3---------| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayTheory Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 On June 22, 2017 at 5:05 AM, imXieli said: have you looked at the dookie book? burnout says its in standard lol. i personally don't trust those no matter how "official" they are exactly. jason and mike play the main riff like this tuned to standard C#5 F#5 G#5 E|-----------------------| B|-----------------------| G|--6-6-6---------------| D|--6-6-6--4-4--6-6-6-| A|--4-4-4--4-4--6-6-6-| E|----------2-2--4-4-4-| billie plays it like so tuned to eflat D5 G5 A5 eb|------------------------| Bb|------------------------| F#|--7-7-7---------------| C#|--7-7-7--5-5--7-7-7-| G#|--5-5-5--5-5--7-7-7-| Eb|----------3-3--5-5-5-| OR like this (it's open chords, billie plays like this a lot if he can i've noticed) D G A eb|--2-2-2--3-3----------| Bb|--3-3-3--3-3--2-2-2-| F#|--2-2-2--0-0--2-2-2-| C#|--0-0-0--0-0--2-2-2-| G#|----------x-x--0-0-0-| Eb|-----------3-3---------| Lol i can't try this right now i broke a string Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madafaka Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I prefer having my acoustic guitar tuned in Eb all the time. I just keep a capo with me at all times and put it on the first fret when necessary. I just like the sound of slightly looser strings better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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