The Great Saiyaman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jake69 said: So you want green day to just keep making the same album over and over again? There are soooo many bands that switch up their sound deep into their career and end up being even more successful. if they just keep making revrad over and over, you don't think that is going to get sickening. Switching up there sound would be a breath of fresh air but if they keep going down the path they are right now, the music is going to just keep getting staler and staler. And experimenting isn't just making terrible pop music like ratitude was. Nah dude, I said Green Day doesn't want to. And that's okay considering they've already done it. If I wait another few years for Green Day songs, then I'm fine with that since I'm not so critical of music all the time. I'm really cool with whatever the band feels like doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marki. Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I think they proved in the past that they're not afraid to do what they want, even if it might be a risky move, so I believe that they can (and will) surprise us again in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 They could switch things up or not switch things up (or switch things up more or switch things up less, it's not like they've been making identical albums). Both are valid options. I agree that they're doing what they want. That doesn't happen to have been a huge change in style this time, but that's ok because that's not the only way to make good music. I can't believe they're being criticised for sounding too "Green Day" and not experimental enough now when so many people whinged about not getting a typical Green Day sounding album with the trilogy. They can't win . Just shows they're never going to please everyone because different people want different things from them. Better that they just do what they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeDirntConfused Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 I think GD wants to keep its fanbase in tact, and is scared of losing their appeal. Regardless of what they say in interviews, it has to sting knowing that people that once liked your music have moved on. So, this creates a comfort zone for them, and they're scared to do something out of the ordinary. The only reason they stepped out of their way with AI was they were already declining in mass appeal. The band was largely seen as has-beens, and never stepped away from the Dookie shadows. So, they had nothing to lose. Now, GD recreated their fame, brought themselves to greater heights, and got inducted into the HoF. They're too scared to lose all that by experimenting, so they're playing it safe and "giving people what they want". The end is result is stale music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Big Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Hermione said: Yeah let's not forget the booklet also says "bouncing off the wall" . He very clearly sings "cause". 6 hours ago, Stefano Bras said: You're right, it does sasys "buzz" in the booklet but the booklet has many errors, probably the wanted to put "buzz" at first but then changed their mind, it definitely says "cause" the first time. I'm telling you, theres a distinct difference between the first and second/third time. I'm sure you'll both realize it eventually. He clearly says buzz here. All you really have to do is listen closely to the song. y'all are wrong, just accept it. nbd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, Jarred.cook7655 said: I'm telling you, theres a distinct difference between the first and second/third time. I'm sure you'll both realize it eventually. He clearly says buzz here. y'all are wrong, just accept it. nbd The studio version clearly says "cause", not "buzz". Here, it's harder to tell. It may have been intended to be "buzz" in the first verse, as the booklet says, but it most definitely is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Big Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: The studio version clearly says "cause", not "buzz". Here, it's harder to tell. It may have been intended to be "buzz" in the first verse, as the booklet says, but it most definitely is not I don't understand how you hear a c and not a b. 1:09 then go to 2:08. If you dont recognize the difference right away, I'm sure it'll dawn on you eventually. He says the word buzz in the studio version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jarred.cook7655 said: I don't understand how you hear a c and not a b. 1:09 then go to 2:08. If you dont recognize the difference right away, I'm sure it'll dawn on you eventually. He says the word buzz in the studio version. In the studio version he says "cause" all 3 times. I've listened to it over and over again and I definitely do not hear buzz and I definitely do hear cause. 1:09 and 2:08 sound exactly the same to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grene cniht Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jarred.cook7655 said: I don't understand how you hear a c and not a b. 1:09 then go to 2:08. If you dont recognize the difference right away, I'm sure it'll dawn on you eventually. He says the word buzz in the studio version. I don't understand how you a hear a b honestly. In the studio version it's clearly "cause". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Big Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Master Roshi said: I don't understand how you a hear a b honestly. In the studio version it's clearly "cause". 4 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: In the studio version he says "cause" all 3 times. I've listened to it over and over again and I definitely do not hear buzz and I definitely do hear cause. 1:09 and 2:08 sound exactly the same to me Hey, it's whatever. I don't like to argue. It is totally buzz, but if you guys can't hear it yet, then that's fine. Maybe one day you will and be like "Damn, that dude was right" because I know this interaction will stick with you, and hopefully you will be able to differentiate them eventually. The lines are sung "Looking for a buzz, but all I got was Santa Clause" (from the perspective of a kid) then, "looking for a cause, but all I got was camouflage" (from the perspective of an adult) and I tell you, all you really have to do is listen close. I know, I know, it sounds a lot like cause, but he is clearly and most definitely saying the word buzz. That's all the more I'm going to say about the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karol Oliveira Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Maybe the guys didn't feel like experimentating on RevRad but they might want to in the future. We don't know! I don't think it's right to state that the band will just play safe from now on. The future is unpredictable! Maybe there will be a certain event that will spark something new in the guys or they'll hear some band (new or old) and they'll be inspired to make a different thing from what they've done so far... They tried to experiment with the trilogy. Also, RevRad is the first album after rehab. I remember seeing somewhere that Billie was insecure and didn't even know if he could continue with the band. Maybe playing safe was the best for Billie at the moment so he could regain his confidence. I love RevRad but I agree the lyrics could have been better. Let's wait too see what the band will do next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Running with shears Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Karol Oliveira said: They tried to experiment with the trilogy. And people bitched about it. Same with Warning. At the time is was panned. Some people still hate it. If they don't experiment they catch shit. If they do experiment they catch shit. They might as well do what they want since here is always going to be people are unhappy with the end result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Saiyaman Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 40 minutes ago, Running with shears said: And people bitched about it. Same with Warning. At the time is was panned. Some people still hate it. If they don't experiment they catch shit. If they do experiment they catch shit. They might as well do what they want since here is always going to be people are unhappy with the end result @Hermione this is why we need a love post option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Jarred.cook7655 said: All you really have to do is listen closely to the song. y'all are wrong, just accept it. nbd You deaf mah men. 8 hours ago, Jake69 said: So you want green day to just keep making the same album over and over again? There are soooo many bands that switch up their sound deep into their career and end up being even more successful. if they just keep making revrad over and over, you don't think that is going to get sickening. Switching up there sound would be a breath of fresh air but if they keep going down the path they are right now, the music is going to just keep getting staler and staler. And experimenting isn't just making terrible pop music like ratitude was. They experimented with the trilogy and look what happened, lots of (undeserved) hate everywhere. Give them a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 My problem with the trilogy was the awful mixing/mastering and horrible guitar tone, not to mention the insane amount of filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 17 hours ago, Jarred.cook7655 said: Hey, it's whatever. I don't like to argue. It is totally buzz, but if you guys can't hear it yet, then that's fine. Maybe one day you will and be like "Damn, that dude was right" because I know this interaction will stick with you, and hopefully you will be able to differentiate them eventually. The lines are sung "Looking for a buzz, but all I got was Santa Clause" (from the perspective of a kid) then, "looking for a cause, but all I got was camouflage" (from the perspective of an adult) and I tell you, all you really have to do is listen close. I know, I know, it sounds a lot like cause, but he is clearly and most definitely saying the word buzz. That's all the more I'm going to say about the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Max. Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I don't really get all the complaints, I mean, it's true RevRad is not a masterpiece, but it's a good and entertaining album. The only song I skip is Youngblood, the lyrics are just terrible. I don't really think they tried to do an American Idiot 3.0, I think RevRad it's just a bunch of songs that they felt on writing, and fit on an album (if you know what I mean). The only thing I don't really like about the album is the production. I think they should have worked with someone on it. Sometimes the voices are too hidden on the mix, the guitars too loud, and it really annoys me. But at least it's better than the 2012 trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 6 hours ago, I am Max. said: I don't really get all the complaints, I mean, it's true RevRad is not a masterpiece, but it's a good and entertaining album. The only song I skip is Youngblood, the lyrics are just terrible. I don't really think they tried to do an American Idiot 3.0, I think RevRad it's just a bunch of songs that they felt on writing, and fit on an album (if you know what I mean). The only thing I don't really like about the album is the production. I think they should have worked with someone on it. Sometimes the voices are too hidden on the mix, the guitars too loud, and it really annoys me. But at least it's better than the 2012 trilogy. Well done & welcome to the forum mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Truong Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 8 hours ago, I am Max. said: I don't really get all the complaints, I mean, it's true RevRad is not a masterpiece, but it's a good and entertaining album. The only song I skip is Youngblood, the lyrics are just terrible. I don't really think they tried to do an American Idiot 3.0, I think RevRad it's just a bunch of songs that they felt on writing, and fit on an album (if you know what I mean). The only thing I don't really like about the album is the production. I think they should have worked with someone on it. Sometimes the voices are too hidden on the mix, the guitars too loud, and it really annoys me. But at least it's better than the 2012 trilogy. THANKS YOU. I thought I was only one skip the song: Youngblood from RevRad it is terrible lyrics and it is terrible live too. I just don't get Billie or band choose to played that song "live" I saw some of footage from RevRad tour and from at GMA performance the audience is just dead to that song. Sorry but it is just bad. anyways..Welcome to GDC.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z J Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 On 5/19/2017 at 1:17 PM, Hermione said: I can't believe they're being criticised for sounding too "Green Day" and not experimental enough now when so many people whinged about not getting a typical Green Day sounding album with the trilogy. They can't win . Just shows they're never going to please everyone because different people want different things from them. Better that they just do what they want. As one of those people who complained often about the last trilogy albums, I have to say I agree. They won't ever win if they bother themselves with the opinions of fans, but I think all we can ask for is music that feels authentic to themselves as artists. I feel like that happened with Revolution Radio 22 hours ago, I am Max. said: I don't really get all the complaints, I mean, it's true RevRad is not a masterpiece, but it's a good and entertaining album. I think it has enough moments of Green Day excellence to help it stand up favorably. There are some lower points for me as well, but they also happen to be songs that a lot of different people love. Like Still Breathing, which I'm rather indifferent on in terms of how it fits in their larger catalog, yet it's one of their best selling songs in a while. I think RevRad offers a variety, I think there are some examples of Green Day's melodic brilliance in Revolution Radio that just further the case that Green Day is one of the best bands of the last 30 years. Listening to how tight they performed Revolution Radio (song) and Youngblood on GMA sort of highlights their honing of the more modern rock sound that I thought they missed with on Uno and Tre to some extent. Masterpiece? Perhaps not. But I think for the first time in a long time, they didn't set out to do something monumental, and it's refreshing. I think it gave us some of their tightest hooks/melodies/harmonies/instrumentals since Dookie, and that outweighs whatever I don't enjoy from the album, at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNICORN VOMIT Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 3 hours ago, Z J said: As one of those people who complained often about the last trilogy albums, I have to say I agree. They won't win ever win if they bother themselves with the opinions of fans, but I think all we can ask for is music that feels authentic to themselves as artists. I feel like that happened with Revolution Radio I think it has enough moments of Green Day excellence to help it stand up favorably. There are some lower points for me as well, but they also happen to be songs that a lot of different people love. Like Still Breathing, which I'm rather indifferent on in terms of how it fits in their larger catalog, yet it's one of their best selling songs in a while. I think RevRad offers a variety, I think there are some examples of Green Day's melodic brilliance in Revolution Radio that just further the case that Green Day is one of the best bands of the last 30 years. Listening to how tight they performed Revolution Radio (song) and Youngblood on GMA sort of highlights their honing of the more modern rock sound that I thought they missed with on Uno and Tre to some extent. Masterpiece? Perhaps not. But I think for the first time in a long time, they didn't set out to do something monumental, and it's refreshing. I think it gave us some of their tightest hooks/melodies/harmonies/instrumentals since Dookie, and that outweighs whatever I don't enjoy from the album, at the end of they day. I miss your posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 18 hours ago, I am Max. said: I don't really get all the complaints, I mean, it's true RevRad is not a masterpiece, but it's a good and entertaining album. The only song I skip is Youngblood, the lyrics are just terrible. I don't really think they tried to do an American Idiot 3.0, I think RevRad it's just a bunch of songs that they felt on writing, and fit on an album (if you know what I mean). The only thing I don't really like about the album is the production. I think they should have worked with someone on it. Sometimes the voices are too hidden on the mix, the guitars too loud, and it really annoys me. But at least it's better than the 2012 trilogy. Poor production is something they've battled post 21st - you'd think they would've learned something from Butch Vig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, JoeFrusciante said: Poor production is something they've battled post 21st - you'd think they would've learned something from Butch Vig I think excluding KYE, they forget that 21CB exists. Which is why I was so shocked when they played LNOE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belinda jane Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 16 hours ago, MysticManiac said: I think excluding KYE, they forget that 21CB exists. Which is why I was so shocked when they played LNOE Which is such a shame They honestly have no idea how good that album is, and that makes me so sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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