pacejunkie punk Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, DookieLukie said: Wait until people on here realize Billie Joe wrote Carolina's Ultimate Netflix Tweet about Lydia lol No way in hell am I going there again 😜 This place is wack 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xWhatsername_ Posted December 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2021 I think this is one of my favorite’s tre’s wife posted of mickey, probably cause of the green day pillows in the back? LOL but it’s a really nice photo 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Have a snowman Tre: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, xWhatsername_ said: I think this is one of my favorite’s tre’s wife posted of mickey, probably cause of the green day pillows in the back? LOL but it’s a really nice photo I noticed the pillows too, love them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 “Sexual assault, mental illness and having a family member who believes in conspiracy theories are comparable” certainly is… a take… that no one really takes seriously isn’t it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: “Sexual assault, mental illness and having a family member who believes in conspiracy theories are comparable” certainly is… a take… that no one really takes seriously isn’t it. You missed my point. If someone is accused of sexual assault without an actual laying out of all of the facts vs possible non-facts, how appropriate is it to repeatedly call someone one of the most inflammatory words in existence? I'm honestly asking you, is it fair to call Joey a pedophile based on one person's account without hearing all of the facts, and when that term really doesn't apply to the situation? Is that where we are now with sexual assault allegations? If so, then how are we better than societies that sentence people without a trial? So if the answer is yes it is appropriate, then we can take that to it's logical conclusion. Why not comment on the personal details of every band member as far as things we've heard without knowing all of the facts and also call them the most offensive name we can think of based on our limited knowledge, and bring it up every time we get a chance? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Billie Joes Eyelids said: You missed my point. If someone is accused of sexual assault without an actual laying out of all of the facts vs possible non-facts, how appropriate is it to repeatedly call someone one of the most inflammatory words in existence? I'm honestly asking you, is it fair to call Joey a pedophile based on one person's account without hearing all of the facts, and when that term really doesn't apply to the situation? Is that where we are now with sexual assault allegations? If so, then how are we better than societies that sentence people without a trial? So if the answer is yes it is appropriate, then we can take that to it's logical conclusion. Why not comment on the personal details of every band member as far as things we've heard without knowing all of the facts and also call them the most offensive name we can think of based on our limited knowledge, and bring it up every time we get a chance? I understand the point you’re making and yes I agree, pedophile isn’t the technically correct word to use to describe a person who sexually assaulted a post-puberty individual. However, I disagree that the other examples you listed are comparable. I can see why someone feels compelled to call a sexual offender who assaulted his very young girlfriend a pedophile, despite the fact that it isn’t the correct term. It is an disgusting thing to do regardless and people tend to use strong language because of that. Having a tinfoil hatter in your family or being a drug addict aren’t really things that people would usually make moral judgements about (unless we count a “your fave is problematic” kind of bad faith criticism). So I don’t think it’s a good analogy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 "I can see why someone feels compelled to call a sexual offender who assaulted his very young girlfriend a pedophile". Do we know this beyond a doubt? Is it fair to assume this without actually knowing all the facts? I absolutely believe in taking every sexual abuse claim seriously and investigating it. But if we start jumping to assumptions in every case with no thorough examination of details, that's called mob mentality. And let's be honest. Every time someone accused of sexual assault tries to defend themselves in a public forum, they end up being attacked even more for even making that attempt. So there's no point in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Billie Joes Eyelids said: "I can see why someone feels compelled to call a sexual offender who assaulted his very young girlfriend a pedophile". Do we know this beyond a doubt? Is it fair to assume this without actually knowing all the facts? From what I’ve had the chance to see - yes, beyond most reasonable doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: From what I’ve had the chance to see - yes, beyond most reasonable doubt. But what have you not seen? Your information is very limited. As far as my analogy being inappropriate, I would agree with you if we actually knew for a fact that there was sexual assault here. My point being, we don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I don't know why it is so hard for people to understand that the one fact we actually have here--a sexual relationship between an adult and a child--is the problem fully and completely in and of itself. Even Joey himself acknowledged that that happened. His bandmates acknowledged that it happened. It's the one thing not in dispute. Let's assume for the sake of argument that everything else Lydia said in her statement is a lie, and let's further assume she is the biggest asshole on the face of the Earth. The age of consent in California is 18, and even under some kind of Romeo and Juliet law you can have an age gap of at most four years, and here the gap was six years. There is nothing in the law that says "age of consent does not apply if child is an asshole." I just don't know what mitigating circumstances we could find that could make this relationship suddenly OK. And this fascination by middle-aged adults over drama in the lives of teenage girls is actually incredibly creepy. Anyway, I am wasting my breath and keystrokes and data at this point. I am going offline for the rest of the day now, and I acknowledge that I am wrong for even continuing to take part in an off-topic discussion, so here is some more festive Tre and Sara: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Billie Joes Eyelids said: But what have you not seen? Your information is very limited. As far as my analogy being inappropriate, I would agree with you if we actually knew for a fact that there was sexual assault here. My point being, we don't. Admittedly, I don’t know everything. But I don’t know everything about most things. We come to conclusions using the information available at the moment all the time. I’m not saying that my opinion can’t change in the future, but as of now, I can’t be too pressed about people using strong language about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Joes Eyelids Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said: Admittedly, I don’t know everything. But I don’t know everything about most things. We come to conclusions using the information available at the moment all the time. I’m not saying that my opinion can’t change in the future, but as of now, I can’t be too pressed about people using strong language about him. You're right, we don't know everything about most things. Which is why people for the most part should not make accusations unless they do. See the case of Johnny Depp and Amber Heard as a very good example. I just happen to have a job in which I've learned this is the golden rule, and it's proven to be very valuable over and over again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killjoywhatsername Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I know this isn’t the place but as I saw comments a page back and seeing as the convo is still going on—- did the Joey thread ever get reopened in the General section? If so, a lot of this could get moved there like others said but last I remember it got locked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Virginia Lot Lizard Posted December 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2021 Make a new thread to yell at each other. I understand the confusion, questions etc. but I’m here for the Instagram pics/posts/updates. I do read the other threads too tbh but I just went through three pages of not anything to do with Instagram. I come to this forum as a Green Day fan. I understand this site is generally well moderated and I appreciate that. I’m not sure what’s going on here on this thread right now. Where is the no limits discussion dumpster fire? Is it on Reddit? I think it’s weird I’m finding it here. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Westerberg89 Posted December 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2021 I’m with everything Billie Joe’s Eyelids said. So many people on here use this word ‘accountability’ like they themselves have to be the ones holding him accountable. How arrogant, egocentric & straight up backward can some people really be ? He has been held accountable , by many of people and behind closed doors too. But the fact some people on here have such high opinions of themselves, that they think they can just throw vile comments around about something that in reality, they know very little, if anything, about, says more about them, than it does the guy in question. Like why does somebody have to be held accountable on YOUR terms, what makes YOU so perfect that YOU get a free pass to say horrible shit about somebody that YOU know nothing about? How about you take your high opinion of yourself and your oh so perfect moral compass & practise what you preach ? The worlds fucked enough as it is without having to constantly shine a light on somebodies past mistakes.. What seriously do you gain by doing that ? Is it because your life is so middle of the road and boring ? Learn to be fuckin nicer to people and let people learn and grow, people can’t do that when they’ve got somebody constantly shouting abuse about them, wether it be at them close up, or in secret behind a laptop screen. Wise the F up! 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BeachBum Posted December 29, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2021 And that is enough. I understand many of you have strong opinions regarding Joey, however, at this point it is derailing the thread. It is time to bring the conversation back to instagram posts by the band. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Have we seen that guitar before or is it new? Because I love it! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 15 hours ago, Billie Joes Eyelids said: So if Billie posts pics of Joey and someone on here calls him a pedophile on this thread, it's fine? And if it's not fine, why wasn't it called out? Also, it's ridiculous to continue calling him a public figure. His band is defunct and he has no social media presence. If anything, he's avoiding the public eye. But Billie should be able to post pics of him without this term continuing to come up. In the same vein, if Mike posts pics of Brit, that would make her fair game as well wouldn't it? I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I'm really not. But to me this is just ridiculous. By the way, Brit owns and promotes several businesses, and charities. So she is very much a public figure. She is also basically an antivax crusader online.. Let's at least have some consistency in respecting family members' privacy. Brittney has never been a public figure. She isn't a public figure. She's just married to one. And even if she was a public figure, this is the Green Day section, so we still wouldn't be discussing her in this thread. Being dumb doesn't make someone a public figure or a member of Green Day. Joey was in a band that had a fanbase independent of Green Day. It had its own thread outside the Green Day section and a following. So we allowed the news that was reported about him as a public figure and member of that band (which I don't believe has officially broken up and certainly hasn't kicked him out btw) to have a thread. He was sexually abusive towards a girl who was under the legal age of consent when he was an adult and this is public knowledge. I agree a discussion about him doesn't belong in this thread, and that pedophile is certainly an exaggeration. But an off hand comment about a public figure who did something shitty, which was called out by you and that I have agreed wasn't really necessary, isn't the same thing as making every person related to Green Day members fair game. 5 hours ago, BeachBum said: And that is enough. I understand many of you have strong opinions regarding Joey, however, at this point it is derailing the thread. It is time to bring the conversation back to instagram posts by the band. My bad, replied before seeing your post! Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GreenDayItaly Posted December 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2021 by francisruizartist Had the great honor of hand painting this killer @rnrrelics guitar for @billiejoearmstrong of @greenday ! The image has a killer crackled finish (which you can’t really see in these pics) Can’t wait to see him rocking this on tour! 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Haven't been able to get back on the site since the 21st until today so here's some IG content from the days I wasn't able to post (have checked the last pages for what has and hasn't already been posted) Seems Mike/Britt now have two pet pigs Jason Freese with Mickey Billie reposted this from @bubukittyfk Jason Freese playing with apps again More from Mike (almost 20 years of Rudy's Can't Fail Cafe) From Tre 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted December 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2021 Some more Tre and Sara on Facetime with Frankito Tre and family swimming in the rain More memories from Kevin From Billie's Instagram story Kevin is in Hawaii and has done a shark dive He's also got a Green Day towel and news on this release ft Billie from 1234Go Records 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 From Mike's Instagram story 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Slave To The Network Posted December 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2021 Kevin went swimming with sharks! I'm so jealous! I love sharks. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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