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Just now, Billie Joes Eyelids said:

Talk all you want, and feel free to give opinions. But there is a line, and that's what mods are for. 

I don’t care about this enough to bother to type out a nuanced opinion on it. I just want to say that we’re once again in an absurd situation. Over the years, the amount of topics that we’re allowed to discuss has dwindled to the point that we either talk about how pretty Billie Joe is or yell at each other to stop talking. In effect that’s making the forum very hard to use as a platform for normal conversation.

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25 minutes ago, Billie Joes Eyelids said:

I really agree with you for the most part. But one way to keep a civil flow of conversation is to not throw out word bombs, or purposefully inflammatory and offensive posts aimed at getting a strong emotional reaction. Again, that's what mods are for. 

Yes, I don’t disagree with that. I think that’s another factor that quashes the conversation.

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1 hour ago, Billie Joes Eyelids said:

Joey is no longer a public figure. He never posts anymore and he intentionally lays low because of exactly what we're talking about here. Brit on the other hand, posts her crazy about 5 times a day. So your point is backward. 

I am not defending Joey's behavior. What I am saying is that calling him a pedophile is not only not appropriate to the situation, but downright offensive.  It's misuse of a word and it's true meaning, and it's defamatory. It should be prohibited in this context on this forum. 

We allowed discussion of Joey on the site because he's in a band (SWMRS) and because there were articles about him because of the Lydia Knight situation. And that discussion was in General Chat, where we discuss non Green Day related things. We have never allowed his social media posts that have nothing to do with Green Day to be discussed in this thread, and the rules on not speculating about Green Day's personal lives or discussing their family members out of the context of anything to do with the band apply to him the same as anyone else. The only discussions about him of that description that have been allowed have been because of stuff he's done as a public figure.

There's no comparison with Brittney here. She isn't a public figure, she just happens to be related to a band member. There's no more reason to be discussing her non Green Day related instagram posts than there would be if an uncle of Tre's or cousin of Billie's posted some dumb shit. Even if she started a band that was popular enough to have fans here and started getting articles written about her/became a public figure, this thread STILL wouldn't be the place to discuss her. Because she isn't a member of Green Day.

I agree with you that pedophile isn't the correct word to use (it's some hyperbole for sure) but there's no particular reason why a public figure can't be mentioned negatively on this site. And Billie did post a picture of him. However as I said, there doesn't need to be continued discussion about him in this thread, because it really has nothing to do with Green Day.

1 hour ago, Beerjeezus said:

I don’t care about this enough to bother to type out a nuanced opinion on it. I just want to say that we’re once again in an absurd situation. Over the years, the amount of topics that we’re allowed to discuss has dwindled to the point that we either talk about how pretty Billie Joe is or yell at each other to stop talking. In effect that’s making the forum very hard to use as a platform for normal conversation.

I mean not really. This thread (and ones before it) has always been strictly for Green Day posted or Green Day containing Instagram posts. And speculating about the band members personal lives and having threads or discussions about their family members separately from anything to do with the band has never been allowed. Respecting the band members personal lives has always been a big thing, it already was when I joined 13 years ago.

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Oh look, some drama that no one can find a way to blame on me for once. 🤣 Ya'll do realize there is a thread to talk about Joey stuff right? You can go there and have this discussion. This is the Instagram thread. So here is some more Mickey birthday content, originally from Billie Joe's IG story.

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6 minutes ago, Lady Mix-A-Lot said:

Oh look, some drama that no one can find a way to blame on me for once. 🤣 Ya'll do realize there is a thread to talk about Joey stuff right? You can go there and have this discussion. This is the Instagram thread. So here is some more Mickey birthday content, originally from Billie Joe's IG story.

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Yes I'm totally aware. What I haven't gotten an answer to is whether people are going to continue to be allowed to call Billie's son a pedophile ON THIS THREAD each time he posts a picture of his family. I don't think it's an unreasonable request to not allow that to continue. 

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Just now, Billie Joes Eyelids said:

Yes I'm totally aware. What I haven't gotten an answer to is whether people are going to continue to be allowed to call Billie's son a pedophile ON THIS THREAD each time he posts a picture of his family. I don't think it's an unreasonable request to not allow that continue. 

I will respond to you only with Instagram content of Mickey's birthday. Have a whole video this time:

https://www.facebook.com/GreenDayLIVEonTour/videos/1083477489079753

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1 hour ago, Hermione said:

I mean not really. This thread (and ones before it) has always been strictly for Green Day posted or Green Day containing Instagram posts. And speculating about the band members personal lives and having threads or discussions about their family members separately from anything to do with the band has never been allowed. Respecting the band members personal lives has always been a big thing, it already was when I joined 13 years ago.

I don’t think it has anything to do with this thread and the band members’ families or their personal lives. It’s a problem in general regardless of concrete topics.

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8 minutes ago, squinty bitch said:

If Joey didn't want to be labelled a pedophile, he shouldn't have raped a child lol. That's all there is to it

Oh ok, so it's fine then. Got it. Why we're at it, let's call Tre one too for the same offense when he was younger, and let's call Billie a drug addict and Mike an anti-vax enabler. And let's do it every time they post a pic. Sounds good. 

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1 minute ago, Billie Joes Eyelids said:

let's call Billie a drug addict

You say that like being a drug addict is something to be ashamed of lmao, it's literally an illness, not an insult

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10 minutes ago, squinty bitch said:

You say that like being a drug addict is something to be ashamed of lmao, it's literally an illness, not an insult

Oh you're right. Billie made some huge mistakes about substances even as recently as within the last couple of years. However, we're not privy to his counseling sessions, details of the back story, what he went through while he knowingly used drugs that harmed his body, what all the exact truths are, how remorseful he is, and whether sources are 100% reliable. So it's not our place to be judge and jury. Life isn't black and white. Oh wait....

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1 minute ago, Billie Joes Eyelids said:

Oh you're right. Billie made some huge mistakes about substances even as recently as within the last couple of years. However, we're not privy to his counseling sessions, details of the back story, what he went through while he knowingly used drugs that harmed his body, what all the exact truths are, how remorseful he is, and whether sources are 100% reliable. So it's not our place to be judge and jury. Life isn't black and white. Oh wait....

Entirely different situations and not even remotely comparable. It honestly seems like you're jumping through hoops to defend a known rapist and it's not a good look

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6 minutes ago, squinty bitch said:

Entirely different situations and not even remotely comparable. It honestly seems like you're jumping through hoops to defend a known rapist and it's not a good look

Oh really? Can you list the legal charges that have been brought against him? And if not, why haven't they? Can you absolutely vouch for the statements against him being 100% accurate? Do you know for a fact that everything he was accused of, other than the very poor judgment of dating someone underage, are verifiable facts? If not, you need to tone it down big time. I'll gladly criticize him for dating someone underage. Everything else is completely debatable. 

 

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Can't believe some people are still defending Joey. Wow. Pathetic. 
GDC is now a pro-pedophile forum, amazing. Bye

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3 minutes ago, Billie Joes Eyelids said:

Oh really? Can you list the legal charges that have been brought against him? And if not, why haven't they? Can you absolutely vouch for the statements against him being 100% accurate? Do you know for a fact that everything he was accused of, other than the very poor judgment of dating someone underage, are verifiable facts? If not, you need to tone it down big time. I'll gladly criticize him for dating someone underage. Everything else is completely debatable. 

 

Lmao Lydia explained why, I have no reason not to believe her, people that actually know SWMRS confirmed the situation. Attitudes like this is why victims of rape and SA don't get justice. YOU need to tone it down cuz you're looking more and more like a rape apologist with each post.

2 minutes ago, Little Boy Named Booze said:

Can't believe some people are still defending Joey. Wow. Pathetic. 
GDC is now a pro-pedophile forum, amazing. Bye

Actually yeah, I don't wanna be a part of a community that's crawling with pedo-sympathisers and it's just allowed to happen. @Hermione delete my account please. I'm too good for this place. Bye

 

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8 minutes ago, squinty bitch said:

Lmao Lydia explained why, I have no reason not to believe her, people that actually know SWMRS confirmed the situation. Attitudes like this is why victims of rape and SA don't get justice. YOU need to tone it down cuz you're looking more and more like a rape apologist with each post.

Oh so Lydia is the final word. Right. 100% we know all the details based on her post. Why should we even have a justice system. Let's just stop there, no questioning allowed, and call Joey a sexual predator for the rest of his life. Seems balanced. You might want to ask her former band mate Saige about that. 

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2 hours ago, Lady Mix-A-Lot said:

Oh look, some drama that no one can find a way to blame on me for once. 🤣 Ya'll do realize there is a thread to talk about Joey stuff right? You can go there and have this discussion. This is the Instagram thread. So here is some more Mickey birthday content, originally from Billie Joe's IG story.

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Mickey is honestly SO darn adorable❤️

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10 minutes ago, squinty bitch said:

@Hermione delete my account please. I'm too good for this place. Bye

Same please. I don't have fun anymore on this forum anyway.

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28 minutes ago, Billie Joes Eyelids said:

Oh really? Can you list the legal charges that have been brought against him? And if not, why haven't they? Can you absolutely vouch for the statements against him being 100% accurate? Do you know for a fact that everything he was accused of, other than the very poor judgment of dating someone underage, are verifiable facts? If not, you need to tone it down big time. I'll gladly criticize him for dating someone underage. Everything else is completely debatable. 

 

I just had to do what I didn't want to do and report this conversation because you all won't stop this conversation after being repeatedly asked to by mods. There is a Joey thread. Take this there. Some of us are on this site because we actually want to talk about Green Day. Weren't you the one who accused me way back when of having too strong of reactions to differing opinions? Well I am not the one taking thread off topic for pages yelling at people because they don't agree with you over something we have discussed ad nauseum. You flying into a rage every time someone says something you don't agree with is very concerning and doesn't look healthy. 

OK, maybe Joey does not meet the textbook definition of a pedophile because I am guessing his primary sexual orientation is not toward pre-pubescent children. But guess what? Most of the people who sexually abuse children do not meet the clinical definition of pedophiles either. Most child sex crimes are crimes of opportunity. It's generally much easier to control and exploit kids than it is adults. At any rate, Joey had an illegal sexual relationship with a person under 18. If you are looking for the legal statute, it's called statutory rape. He's lucky Lydia didn't press charges. She is not obligated to. She probably didn't because she didn't want to go through what is going on on this site. But that relationship is not in dispute, and that's where the crime is, so the rest of the details don't even really matter. Joey could have made things a lot better by acknowledging that he did something very wrong and taking responsibility and demonstrating some learning. He decided to give a half-ass statement and then disappear. He cancelled himself. There is a path for him to learn and move past this but he has yet to take it. The most thoughtful and nuanced statements are coming from his bandmates now when they should be coming from him. 

Everyone makes mistakes. This is a big one to say the least. It's about how you learn and grow from them. Joey has yet to show that. I am not sure what other people's mistakes have to do with this one. The logical fallacies and "whataboutism" here is astounding. Also, I have never heard of Tre having sex with children when he himself was an adult, so if you don't have proof to back that up, then congratulations, you just committed libel.

These are my final comments on this. I will not respond to replies. Have more Tre Family Christmas (originally from Sara's Instagram):

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6 minutes ago, xWhatsername_ said:

Honestly tho.. you guys don’t have to like joey or whatever, I also find calling him a “pedo” a little messed up and offensive but he did have a relationship with someone at the time who was underage? but anyway, I found the photo billie posted of him and his family to be really sweet, he also included their dogs and stuff as well EVEN CUTE LENNY, you guys don’t have to focus on only joey.. just crop him out or forget about him, billie was only trying to have his family over for christmas anyway, now I understand why he didn’t make a post about it and only posted it through his story-

You're absolutely right. We don't have to focus on Joey. So some people on here need to fucking stop calling him a pedophile every time he or his picture comes up, because it leads to this very conversation. Lady Mix-A-Lot, report away and I'll take the points. It was more than worth it. I'm looking forward to your laying out all of your court-worthy evidence on the statutory rape charge. Make sure you talk to Saige. 

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Wait until people on here realize Billie Joe wrote Carolina's Ultimate Netflix Tweet about Lydia lol

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