WhiteTim Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Umphrey's McGee plays covers (Pink Floyd is just one off the top of my head) and they're definitely nowhere near Green Day's level and release every show But do those cover artists know that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 They could just remove the covers. My guess is they don't do that because they would prefer to instead just put out one really polished mastered live album, rather than something rushed each night as a memento. They wouldn't rush it, Metallica's releases are released a week after each show, and are mixed/mastered by a sound engineer. So if Green Day were to release each show, they wouldn't be hand picking songs like they did for AAF, they'd just have someone mix each show and call it a day. But due to the amount of covers, like, each show has a metal medley (Black Sabbath, Metallica, Van Halen, AC/DC) and then a classic rock/pop medley (Isley Brothers, Beatles, Rolling Stones/ The Who/The Doors/Ben E King/Monty Python). That right there is a TON of artists to get permission from, and then they also throw out the occasional Blitzkrieg Bop, We Are the Champions, more recently Kiss Me Deadly, and the list of covers they've done can go on and on. So that's why they don't release the shows I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Benjamin Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 But do those cover artists know that?I'm sure they do, they make too much from it to not be noticed. They were also until not that long ago on Dave Matthews' label Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Umphrey's McGee plays covers (Pink Floyd is just one off the top of my head) and they're definitely nowhere near Green Day's level and release every show I honestly thought I was the only person in the world who'd heard of Umphrey's McGee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Benjamin Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I honestly thought I was the only person in the world who'd heard of Umphrey's McGee.Their live show is seriously up there with Green Day. I hope I don't cause a shitstorm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Their live show is seriously up there with Green Day. I hope I don't cause a shitstorm. I doubt enough people know of them in order to argue! One of my assignments at uni was to remix Miami Virtue, which is how I first heard of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Benjamin Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I doubt enough people know of them in order to argue! One of my assignments at uni was to remix Miami Virtue, which is how I first heard of them.Thats true and sick! They're from South Bend and I'm from Indianapolis so they're known better here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danneh Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Does anyone know where i can find the MTV Honarary Degree interview with Green Day, the four seasons in Chicago footage with Tre stuck in the elevator and that interview from the triology era where Billie says something about stalkers and Tre and Mike pretend to hold a grudge against each other? Links would be great and Imsorry if this is the wrong thread or something I havent got used tothis website yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 I'm sure they do, they make too much from it to not be noticed. They were also until not that long ago on Dave Matthews' label Also point out that song rights do vary by bands/ publishers the price to clear vary a price a local/small band will NOT be the same price a major band will be charged Example say me and you start a band and we want to cover say Enter Sandman whoever controls the publishing would look and see we are a local band and would charge a reasonable fee but say our band was signed to a major and had fan base and such the price will be higher Also you have to pay for every release you put the cover on just because you got the rights to release one album a you can't release the song on album b you have to get rights for EVERY release pay every time I have a couple songs I produced out there (for a few rappers) if another rapper wanted to use the music by sampling (sampling rights work the same as covers) if it was a local artist the price would be low if I know he on a major and has a budget I'll ask for the highest I can get how business works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Man Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 One oddity I never quite understood was why "Hitchin' a Ride" was put on the single for "Wake Me Up When September Ends." B-sides from the album are usual, but this is a 1997 studio track on a 2005 release. The other track is the live version of "Homecoming". Maybe there's some kind of link in the songs (I'm thinking not likely). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Green Day professionally recorded every show of the 21CB tour... so why don't they do what many other artists do and make all the recordings available for purchase so you can relive the concert? I know they prefer physical albums, but I'm sure anyone who's been to a green day concert would much rather have a digital recording of the show they went to than a live CD made up of tracks from a few different shows, right? Because they're bastards. Also maybe they don't actually really get that that's something a lot of fans would want? BIAB and AAF lead me to believe they/their label or whoever think we want a polished and edited show and maybe aren't that aware that many people would want to watch a full and unedited show. Or maybe that they think we won't buy things like BIAB or AAF if we have access to lots of other footage (even though I doubt that would really be the case). Same logic as when they didn't let their festival performances be shown on TV the year BIAB was coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyGun Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 what's the sense of recording every show of a tour and then just release one edited show ? To just have a hand full of those recordings would be enough to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 what's the sense of recording every show of a tour and then just release one edited show ? To just have a hand full of those recordings would be enough to me A bigger, wider release = more profit, and proper mastering, editing and choosing the best performance of each song from the tour makes for a better final product. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disappearing Boy Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Who are the people on the Nimrod cover, apart from Billie Mike and Tre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Benjamin Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Who are the people on the Nimrod cover, apart from Billie Mike and Tre?I think Eisenhauer might be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 Who are the people on the Nimrod cover, apart from Billie Mike and Tre? Dwight Eisenhower and Harry S Truman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Disappearing Boy Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 That's cool. Anyone know why they were chosen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jirachi Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I know i asked this before and i know that The Network songs dont have meanings usually. But does "Spacstic Society" and "Love and Money" have meainings or are they just like, random words or whatever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green day is Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I know i asked this before and i know that The Network songs dont have meanings usually. But does "Spacstic Society" and "Love and Money" have meainings or are they just like, random words or whatever? Love and Money is about life. It's got a dark approach, "Then you crack". I think Spastic Society is literally about society being spastic, since it mentions credit cards, prescriptions, and saccharin and all kinds of things that were big deals back in 2003 which, to me, is reminiscent of sort of the inner monologue of the public at the time. Some of the words in it sound completely out of left field, though, like candy cane and papercut. It might just be random. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 That's cool. Anyone know why they were chosen? I always assumed they were chosen because Eisenhower had a high rank in the army and was known for invading North Africa, France and Germany, while Truman was also a war veteran and was in charge at the end of WWII and partly responsible for the Cold War. As such, they're on the cover of Nimrod because "nimrod" historically means "man of power" and "mighty hunter," after Nimrod, King Of Shinar in the Bible, but has also taken on a pejorative meaning, and we all know the band's feelings when it comes to war. That's just my take, though. I could be totally wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green day is Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 I always assumed they were chosen because Eisenhower had a high rank in the army and was known for invading North Africa, France and Germany, while Truman was also a war veteran and was in charge at the end of WWII and partly responsible for the Cold War. As such, they're on the cover of Nimrod because "nimrod" historically means "man of power" and "mighty hunter," after Nimrod, King Of Shinar in the Bible, but has also taken on a pejorative meaning, and we all know the band's feelings when it comes to war. That's just my take, though. I could be totally wrong. Eisenhower also put "under God" in the pledge of allegiance because he was scared of communism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Eisenhower also put "under God" in the pledge of allegiance because he was scared of communism. Yeah, that really pisses me off. I did a whole paper about that b 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Nimrod Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Green Day professionally recorded every show of the 21CB tour... so why don't they do what many other artists do and make all the recordings available for purchase so you can relive the concert? I know they prefer physical albums, but I'm sure anyone who's been to a green day concert would much rather have a digital recording of the show they went to than a live CD made up of tracks from a few different shows, right? Linkin Park used to do that. Incubus has fans vote on what shows to release like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollyroger118 Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Recently someone on the unpopular opinion thread said that Scattered was written in 1992. Can anyone prove that please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Recently someone on the unpopular opinion thread said that Scattered was written in 1992. Can anyone prove that please? I can't proove it, but I do know it was between 92 and 95. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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