Green Day Q&A Thread

[ekim]

1 hour ago, Saviour said:

From the GD wiki: 

One for the Razorbacks is the second track on Green Day's second studio album, Kerplunk! The song was written for a girl from Arkansas Billie Joe Armstrong wrote that year, where they allegedly listened to the demo in his car.

So yeah, stands to reason that it's the Arkansas hand-egg team.

Why did they feel the need to spin the C&V theft story I wonder?

Maybe a PR move? A daft throwaway anecdote that got a bit out of control? Maybe the label were arsey about paying for the extra studio time to re-record the album?

I remember Rob cavallo himself saying the real story was they finished what was going to be cigarettes & valentine's he asked them if they thought it was the strongest album they could've made? They all agreed it wasn't I believe it was a segment from green day's bio on A&E biography Channel 

2 minutes ago, ekim said:

I remember Rob cavallo himself saying the real story was they finished what was going to be cigarettes & valentine's he asked them if they thought it was the strongest album they could've made? They all agreed it wasn't I believe it was a segment from green day's bio on A&E biography Channel 

And rob described the album as being fast punk rock similar to insomniac sound 

[Saviour]

54 minutes ago, ekim said:

I remember Rob cavallo himself saying the real story was they finished what was going to be cigarettes & valentine's he asked them if they thought it was the strongest album they could've made? They all agreed it wasn't I believe it was a segment from green day's bio on A&E biography Channel 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure even the band have confirmed themselves (Mike said it I think) in a roundabout way that they just weren't happy with it so scrapped it. 

This was years after though, and nobody had said anything to the contrary of "the master tapes were stolen" until then.

Like @jengd says, probably just a silly comment that they decided to run with until they got bored.

It still seems widely accepted that the theft story was true though. It's even on the album wiki page and everyone knows what Wikipedia says is fact.

Edited December 13, 2023 by Saviour

[ekim]

Hope we finally  hear the songs attached to American idiot 20th anniversary 

[green day is]

was c&v ever really announced prior to being background lore for ai? i did some research a while ago and couldn't find anywhere it was talked about prior to the theft story but i could have missed something.

[pacejunkie punk]

2 hours ago, green day is said:

was c&v ever really announced prior to being background lore for ai? i did some research a while ago and couldn't find anywhere it was talked about prior to the theft story but i could have missed something.

They talked about an album they were working on in the phone messages they were leaving on the website at the time. 
 

https://greenday.fm/audio/phone-messages/

[DookieLukie]

Is Brutal Love about addiction?

[Mato]

Does anyone have a bigger resolution hq version of this? I'm looking for this (CD) version one, not the stretched DVD one.

 

[Flashback]

Maybe it's a very dumb question but when I read that Rob Cavallo, Chris Lord-Alge and Ted Jensen are reunited with Green Day, I thought that the production of Saviors would be just breathtaking, because 21st Century Breakdown and the Trilogy (yes, I love the production of the Trilogy) were already so good at that time.

But although we have 10-15 years of technological progress and progress of all their skills between these two albums and Saviors, the songs on Saviors don't really sound better. I mean, they sound really good but I would still say that 21stCB is their best sounding album although it's almost 15 years old.

So why is that? Is nowadays sound quality already so good that we don't hear improvement anymore on "regular" headphones and speakers?

[grene cniht]

What happened to the press conference in Italy around the time of the Milan club show at the beginning of November? I read about it but can't find it anywhere.

[Karl Karlson]

On 1/4/2024 at 7:17 PM, Mato said:

Does anyone have a bigger resolution hq version of this? I'm looking for this (CD) version one, not the stretched DVD one.

 

I just scanned the cover of my Japan DVD (which excludes the Parental Advisory box). Hope that's okay for you:

I also scanned and added the cover of the little booklet that is almost always included with Japanese releases:

And to be sure I added the DVD-form cover straight from iTunes:

[Mato]

3 minutes ago, Karl Karlson said:

I just scanned the cover of my Japan DVD (which excludes the Parental Advisory box). Hope that's okay for you:

I also scanned and added the cover of the little booklet that is almost always included with Japanese releases:

And to be sure I added the DVD-form cover straight from iTunes:

Thanks a lot man for your efforts! I appreciate it  

[Insomniac90]

I introduced my best Friend to Green Day and her birthday is next month. I already bought a present for her but wanted to give her a little present to it. So now that shes coming to a show in June with me I thought something like a lyric book would be a nice idea with all lyrics that she could learn the lyrics for the show (or all til 2012 or something).  Is there something like this? I dont wanna buy her every CD/Vinyl just for the Booklets and the Studio Boxset 1990-2009 doesn‘t have the Booklet in it😂 

[Karl Karlson]

On 1/14/2024 at 5:32 PM, Insomniac90 said:

I introduced my best Friend to Green Day and her birthday is next month. I already bought a present for her but wanted to give her a little present to it. So now that shes coming to a show in June with me I thought something like a lyric book would be a nice idea with all lyrics that she could learn the lyrics for the show (or all til 2012 or something).  Is there something like this? I dont wanna buy her every CD/Vinyl just for the Booklets and the Studio Boxset 1990-2009 doesn‘t have the Booklet in it😂 

I have only seen your post now, otherwise I would've responded earlier. I just uploaded all the lyrics I had on my hard drive of each album. The lyric books and deluxe books were scanned by me, some other stuff was scanned by me and some stuff I downloaded off the internet. Some booklet pages were deliberately left out since you asked for lyrics only basically and if you literally need the lyrics pages only I can crop the images and re-upload for you, just let me know).

The things I have physically but not digitally: American Idiot vinyl lyrics scans (neither Gatefold version with lyrics nor the separate poster version) and Saviors booklet scans (the CD still has not arrived yet and since the vinyl has a poster like AI, I don't want to scan it because it's such a hassle with a A4 scanner). Since the lyric booklet, which was offered as a pdf for free, is so tiny I had to upscale the pages.

So here's finally the link, I hope you can figure out a way to create a cool birthday gift

(Edit) New link
https://mega.nz/folder/cglmWIIS#6oAkOakxvIAmJKLCjZgs0w

[Lenny]

On 12/25/2023 at 5:30 AM, green day is said:

was c&v ever really announced prior to being background lore for ai? i did some research a while ago and couldn't find anywhere it was talked about prior to the theft story but i could have missed something.

It was talked about as them releasing and working on a new album. At the time they were mentioning a release date of 2003. Then at some point in 2003 they communicated a delay in the album. 
 

 

On 12/25/2023 at 8:03 AM, pacejunkie punk said:

They talked about an album they were working on in the phone messages they were leaving on the website at the time. 
 

https://greenday.fm/audio/phone-messages/

I remember photo galleries on the website as well from when they were recording it. I believe they had some text updates as well on the site referencing the new album.

[Insomniac90]

18 hours ago, Karl Karlson said:

I have only seen your post now, otherwise I would've responded earlier. I just uploaded all the lyrics I had on my hard drive of each album. The lyric books and deluxe books were scanned by me, some other stuff was scanned by me and some stuff I downloaded off the internet. Some booklet pages were deliberately left out since you asked for lyrics only basically and if you literally need the lyrics pages only I can crop the images and re-upload for you, just let me know).

The things I have physically but not digitally: American Idiot vinyl lyrics scans (neither Gatefold version with lyrics nor the separate poster version) and Saviors booklet scans (the CD still has not arrived yet and since the vinyl has a poster like AI, I don't want to scan it because it's such a hassle with a A4 scanner). Since the lyric booklet, which was offered as a pdf for free, is so tiny I had to upscale the pages.

So here's finally the link, I hope you can figure out a way to create a cool birthday gift

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1vLxjd-Zyw0msYDw4RIPVEfX6CdpTwxVb?usp=sharing

Thank you so much 🥰

I think I have an idea to make a present with the scans. Thank you 🫶

[That Dude]

Have we ever seen footage of Mike and Tre recording vocals?  

 

[ekim]

Man I miss the real mtv 

[ekim]

 

[pacejunkie punk]

1 hour ago, ekim said:

Man I miss the real mtv 

 

1 hour ago, ekim said:

 

This is the Q&A thread 

[Miko]

On 1/30/2024 at 4:54 AM, That Dude said:

Have we ever seen footage of Mike and Tre recording vocals?  

 

Pretty sure we've only seen Tre recording Chocolate Rain vocals. No Green Day stuff.

[That Dude]

13 hours ago, Miko said:

Pretty sure we've only seen Tre recording Chocolate Rain vocals. No Green Day stuff.

Chocolate Rain would fit snugglely between Corvette Summer and Suzie Chapstick. Like melting on the cars hood, ya know?   I would definitely like to see them working out harmony and backing vocals together.  Maybe soon...

[Saviour]

On 1/5/2024 at 12:15 PM, Flashback said:

Maybe it's a very dumb question but when I read that Rob Cavallo, Chris Lord-Alge and Ted Jensen are reunited with Green Day, I thought that the production of Saviors would be just breathtaking, because 21st Century Breakdown and the Trilogy (yes, I love the production of the Trilogy) were already so good at that time.

But although we have 10-15 years of technological progress and progress of all their skills between these two albums and Saviors, the songs on Saviors don't really sound better. I mean, they sound really good but I would still say that 21stCB is their best sounding album although it's almost 15 years old.

So why is that? Is nowadays sound quality already so good that we don't hear improvement anymore on "regular" headphones and speakers?

It's actually a tricky question to answer. I've got a pretty extensive knowledge of music production and mixing, and the answer is basically yes, we peaked a long time ago technically when it comes to how "good" something sounds.  

Without going into boring technical jargon, there is really a long established set of rules for how something should sound in terms of frequency response and the stereo field which makes it most appealing to the human ear. 

Obviously the sound changes dramatically with different genres etc and no two mixes are ever alike - and of course music is all subjective - but broadly speaking these rules are adhered to in most modern music. 

Mixing music and getting it to sound really good is hard and requires a lot of technical knowledge. Green Day deal with the best in the business when it comes to production and post-production, so there's probably an argument to say they've probably just hit a ceiling. The differences technically speaking are objectively imperceptible and it just comes down to subjectivity. 

21CB is their most polished production. Some would say overproduced. You clearly just prefer this to the looser style of Saviors. 

[Flashback]

15 hours ago, Saviour said:

It's actually a tricky question to answer. I've got a pretty extensive knowledge of music production and mixing, and the answer is basically yes, we peaked a long time ago technically when it comes to how "good" something sounds.  

Without going into boring technical jargon, there is really a long established set of rules for how something should sound in terms of frequency response and the stereo field which makes it most appealing to the human ear. 

Obviously the sound changes dramatically with different genres etc and no two mixes are ever alike - and of course music is all subjective - but broadly speaking these rules are adhered to in most modern music. 

Mixing music and getting it to sound really good is hard and requires a lot of technical knowledge. Green Day deal with the best in the business when it comes to production and post-production, so there's probably an argument to say they've probably just hit a ceiling. The differences technically speaking are objectively imperceptible and it just comes down to subjectivity. 

21CB is their most polished production. Some would say overproduced. You clearly just prefer this to the looser style of Saviors. 

Thank you for your detailed answer! May I add the question how you mean "polished" and "loose" in comparison to Saviors and 21CB?

[Saviour]

2 hours ago, Flashback said:

Thank you for your detailed answer! May I add the question how you mean "polished" and "loose" in comparison to Saviors and 21CB?

There are imperfections throughout Saviors in the instrumentation. Guitar especially. They just left it in for a more “human” sound I imagine, and it’s a creative decision. 

Again without getting boring, everything in 21CB is pretty much millisecond perfect throughout. They probably did lots of takes, and it would’ve been edited extensively. I imagine this is part of the reason why the band don’t look back on the process that fondly.

There is also a lot more production in terms of effects and extra instrumentation in 21CB. For the most part, apart from a couple of songs, Saviors is just layers of guitar, bass and drums.

[That Dude]