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What other Green Day songs are in the same key as Brain Stew?

Off the top of my head there's Paper Lanterns, Dry Ice, Private Ale, Having A Blast, Sassafras Roots, In The End, FOD, Jaded, Tight Wad Hill, Walking Contradiction, American Idiot, Oh Love and Brutal Love.

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What other Green Day songs are in the same key as Brain Stew?

Off the top of my head there's Paper Lanterns, Dry Ice, Private Ale, Having A Blast, Sassafras Roots, In The End, FOD, Jaded, Tight Wad Hill, Walking Contradiction, American Idiot, Oh Love and Brutal Love.

It's probably important to note that Brain Stew's guitar/bass isn't diatonic, though. If you're trying to make a mashup or something using it it won't necessarily work, the vocals are what let us call it G# minor rather than some obscure scale (blues octatonic minor?) involving G#, C, C#, D#, E, F, and F#. Without the vocals those are all that's there, with them we get an idea of the important notes which allows us to analyze the F and C as accidentals. The vocals of Brain Stew have a G# coinciding with the F power chord, which is consonant, but in other songs it could just as easily end up a B, which would form a tritone and minor second.

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Before Rockband ever came out there were a few acapellas and instrumentals floating around, notably I remember having them for Brain Stew. Does anyone know where these came from? I'm pretty sure they weren't done artificially but I was younger then and can't find them now because Rockband so maybe they were.

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Before Rockband ever came out there were a few acapellas and instrumentals floating around, notably I remember having them for Brain Stew. Does anyone know where these came from? I'm pretty sure they weren't done artificially but I was younger then and can't find them now because Rockband so maybe they were.

They're pretty easy to find on youtube :o

etc :D

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They're all from Rockband :P

Yeah I guess I didn't understand the question that well :D

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It's probably important to note that Brain Stew's guitar/bass isn't diatonic, though. If you're trying to make a mashup or something using it it won't necessarily work, the vocals are what let us call it G# minor rather than some obscure scale (blues octatonic minor?) involving G#, C, C#, D#, E, F, and F#. Without the vocals those are all that's there, with them we get an idea of the important notes which allows us to analyze the F and C as accidentals. The vocals of Brain Stew have a G# coinciding with the F power chord, which is consonant, but in other songs it could just as easily end up a B, which would form a tritone and minor second.

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Before Rockband ever came out there were a few acapellas and instrumentals floating around, notably I remember having them for Brain Stew. Does anyone know where these came from? I'm pretty sure they weren't done artificially but I was younger then and can't find them now because Rockband so maybe they were.

Thank you! Are there any other songs that have vocals in G# minor?
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I know Billie uses Ernie Ball strings for his electrics, but what does he use for his acoustic? Mainly for the 21st Century Breakdown tour.

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I know Billie uses Ernie Ball strings for his electrics, but what does he use for his acoustic? Mainly for the 21st Century Breakdown tour.

Watch the first segment of this video (which is about BJs guitars) and I'm sure the guy mentions it :)

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It's probably a more complicated question to answer than it should be, so this post is probably gonna be really boring, but here goes.

It all depends on how you choose to hear it, in a way. Academically Private Ale is nowhere near their fastest song, as that link Jon shared states, because while the music is at 196bpm the vocals are in half-time, so it can feel like 98bpm. The fastest song on Kerplunk by these standards is Strangeland at 214bpm. It's difficult to judge though because a lot of their songs actually have a double-time feel, based on the amount Tre uses the snare, and the more snare there is going on the more momentum a song has. There's an important distinction between tempo and momentum; if you took any given song and took the snare out, but left everything else exactly the same, it would feel slower. Plus Billie tends to throw in a lot of insanely fast strumming fills, where he'll hit the next chord slightly ahead of the beat and strum it a couple of times in double-time (so if the song is already in double-time then it's effectively quadruple-time for that split second).

So to take Strangeland as an example, 214bpm is ridiculously fast and if you were playing to a metronome you'd have it set to half that, but if you were to write the sheet music out at 107bpm rather than 214bpm it would be super messy and difficult to read. I hate applying academia to punk, but I think it's interesting in this case. To throw a spanner in the words, Jaded is 160bpm but with a double-time feel, making it effectively 320bpm.

I haven't gone through the rest of the albums but I can go into more boring minutiae about any specific song if anyone cares.

Not boring at all! So do you think it's possible to judge what their fastest song would be? Or are there too many different factors at play?

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Not boring at all! So do you think it's possible to judge what their fastest song would be? Or are there too many different factors at play?

I think the simplest way to do it is to just count the speed of the beats (which I can't really be bothered doing for every song right now :P ). I just did it for Platypus and Welcome To Paradise actually, just out of interest, and Welcome To Paradise actually has a higher bpm.

In terms of what they simply sound like though, it's gotta be Platypus, Jaded or Best Thing In Town, right?

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I think the simplest way to do it is to just count the speed of the beats (which I can't really be bothered doing for every song right now :P ). I just did it for Platypus and Welcome To Paradise actually, just out of interest, and Welcome To Paradise actually has a higher bpm.

In terms of what they simply sound like though, it's gotta be Platypus, Jaded or Best Thing In Town, right?

Yeah I think Platypus sounds fastest, can't think of one that sounds faster off the top of my head.

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It's probably a more complicated question to answer than it should be, so this post is probably gonna be really boring, but here goes.

It all depends on how you choose to hear it, in a way. Academically Private Ale is nowhere near their fastest song, as that link Jon shared states, because while the music is at 196bpm the vocals are in half-time, so it can feel like 98bpm. The fastest song on Kerplunk by these standards is Strangeland at 214bpm. It's difficult to judge though because a lot of their songs actually have a double-time feel, based on the amount Tre uses the snare, and the more snare there is going on the more momentum a song has. There's an important distinction between tempo and momentum; if you took any given song and took the snare out, but left everything else exactly the same, it would feel slower. Plus Billie tends to throw in a lot of insanely fast strumming fills, where he'll hit the next chord slightly ahead of the beat and strum it a couple of times in double-time (so if the song is already in double-time then it's effectively quadruple-time for that split second).

So to take Strangeland as an example, 214bpm is ridiculously fast and if you were playing to a metronome you'd have it set to half that, but if you were to write the sheet music out at 107bpm rather than 214bpm it would be super messy and difficult to read. I hate applying academia to punk, but I think it's interesting in this case. To throw a spanner in the words, Jaded is 160bpm but with a double-time feel, making it effectively 320bpm.

I haven't gone through the rest of the albums but I can go into more boring minutiae about any specific song if anyone cares.

You should teach. You made something know nothing about completely understandable. Thanks.

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It's been ages since I listened to it, but Jaded sounds ridiculously fast. The vocals sound slower than Platypus,though.

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Watch the first segment of this video (which is about BJs guitars) and I'm sure the guy mentions it :)

Doesn't mention it, only the electric's
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Anyone have a nice quality scan of the first pressing of Pinhead Gunpowder's Trundle and Spring EP? It's the black and white one. I know there's a collector site that has some really nice scans, but they don't show up on google results

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