Random Green Day News

[That Dude]

On 8/23/2022 at 2:30 PM, Beerjeezus said:

That’s the no divorce bonus

I got a rock n roll girlfriend.......

[Beerjeezus]

Congratulations, I guess?

https://loudwire.com/study-green-day-father-of-all-among-worst-reviewed-albums-century/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab

[Little Boy Named Booze]

22 minutes ago, Beerjeezus said:

Congratulations, I guess?

https://loudwire.com/study-green-day-father-of-all-among-worst-reviewed-albums-century/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab

Uh Uh, what's so funny?

 

Your album.

[pacejunkie punk]

1 hour ago, Beerjeezus said:

Congratulations, I guess?

https://loudwire.com/study-green-day-father-of-all-among-worst-reviewed-albums-century/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab

They always said they wanted to get either an A or an F. I guess if you're gonna be bad at something, be really really bad.

[Beerjeezus]

10 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

They always said they wanted to get either an A or an F. I guess if you're gonna be bad at something, be really really bad.

That way it’s still memorable. 

[Major Pain]

This comes out next week

[Beerjeezus]

Boo

[pacejunkie punk]

Two unreleased live recordings 🤔 Think it will be anything interesting or just a couple of hits?

[Major Pain]

20 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Two unreleased live recordings 🤔 Think it will be anything interesting or just a couple of hits?

They've been talking about it for months now so hopefully its something interesting. In the email they sent out in March they said one of the songs on the 7" has never been pressed on vinyl.

[pacejunkie punk]

9 minutes ago, Major Pain said:

They've been talking about it for months now so hopefully its something interesting. In the email they sent out in March they said one of the songs on the 7" has never been pressed on vinyl.

Was that when people were speculating it was Stray Heart because wasn’t that left off the vinyl version of Dos or something?  Two live trilogy songs would make me so happy.

[Major Pain]

15 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Was that when people were speculating it was Stray Heart because wasn’t that left off the vinyl version of Dos or something?  Two live trilogy songs would make me so happy.

Yep, Drama Queen was originally on Dos and Stray heart was on Tre, but just before they pressed Tre onto vinyl they decided to put Drama queen on Tre and Stray Heart on Dos so Stray Heart was never pressed onto vinyl.

[suffoKate]

Definitely getting a copy! 😊

[Rumpelstiltskin2000]

I'd forgotten all about it until now

Will probably see if I can get hold of one at some point

[Give_Me_Novacaine90]

Behind the Boards with Butch Walker: Producer Talks Taylor Swift, Weezer, Green Day and More

https://consequence.net/2022/08/butch-walker-interview-taylor-swift-green-day-behind-the-boards/2/

[Beerjeezus]

Keep in mind, as a producer, this is the ugly side, where longtime fans of a band hear that they want to “broaden their horizons” and do something different, and the first thing they do is shoot the producer. They hate the producer because the formula for their Coca-Cola got changed and they are very mad because of a band wanting to do something different.

To Green Day’s credit, this vision was Billie’s. This was his vision. It wasn’t like I came in and said “let’s change it all up, let’s make a ’70s glam throwback record.” 
 

Why is he so defensive 😭
 

He also says FOAM had 5 songs that charted and was their most successful record since AI??? Sounds like he lives in some paralel reality

[pacejunkie punk]

“I was stoked because obviously, it was their most successful record since American Idiot, in a time where you can’t follow that, you can’t follow a “lightning in a bottle” moment where a band sells 10 million plus on a record. Everybody’s waiting for you to top it and you just can’t. I’m not even saying sales-wise, sales don’t even exist anymore, so that’s not a factor, it’s more just radio hits.”

 

Is he being sarcastic? I never heard these songs on the radio. Yeah some singles charted but the rock charts are thin and they did nothing compared to the singles of RevRad and Oh Love was Billboard Hot 100. Also he’s including 21CB?? That won a Grammy and had two huge singles?  He’s full of shit.

 

“But we did it on our own terms, and we did it without a label, and we did it without anyone in our way.”

 

Again he’s insane. Without a label? It was their last album under an old contract with Warner. They couldn’t shut up about that in the interviews.

4 hours ago, Beerjeezus said:

Keep in mind, as a producer, this is the ugly side, where longtime fans of a band hear that they want to “broaden their horizons” and do something different, and the first thing they do is shoot the producer. They hate the producer because the formula for their Coca-Cola got changed and they are very mad because of a band wanting to do something different.

To Green Day’s credit, this vision was Billie’s. This was his vision. It wasn’t like I came in and said “let’s change it all up, let’s make a ’70s glam throwback record.” 
 

Why is he so defensive 😭
 

He also says FOAM had 5 songs that charted and was their most successful record since AI??? Sounds like he lives in some paralel reality

Haha he pulled the same shit with Weezer’s Pacific Daydream, another pop album hated by the fans. It’s almost word for word the same excuse:

“Again, I was trying to let an artist do what their vision is and what they want to do, as opposed to trying to come in with a seasoned band like that and tell them how they should sound. Everybody is trying to get into the studio and remake Pinkerton, everyone. I know plenty of those people and I know plenty of times it’s been attempted. Again, lightning in a bottle, you can’t do it.”

“But the fans who are fucking awful will just hate everything they do if they don’t try to do Pinkerton, which is very narrow-minded and one-sided, but also, again, here we go, don’t shoot the fucking producer! Because I do what the artist wants me to do for them. Whether or not they think that’s true or not is on them”

[Little Boy Named Booze]

Fuck Butch

[Beerjeezus]

I know he can’t just go “oh yeah so this was a huge project I did and it flopped” but he sounds absolutely delusional

[jengd]

I was with him til he started just plain lying.  I have no problem with FOAM being Billie’s vision, nobody hits gold 100% but the later part of what he says is just nuts.  

[Christian's Inferno!]

Anyone else notice he said "Billie Joe had produced the last ten years worth of Green Day records himself with the band". The only self-produced album they made was RevRad. Rob was with them during the trilogy. It had been 8 years since the trilogy so maybe he's rounding up to 10 but if he was trying to say "They've been self-producing since after the trilogy", it seems weird to say "Billie Joe had produced the last ten years worth of Green Day records himself with the band" when they only released one Green Day album between the trilogy and FOAMF (along with a couple of new songs like Xmas Time of the Year and Back in the USA)

I've been critical of FOAMF but I've never singled out Butch as the culprit of the album's failure. I think it was mostly down to the band most likely. But this definitely seems like he's making excuses

He's acting as if there's like no metrics for an album's success nowadays because people don't buy albums. People still listen to albums. They still stream, they still play songs on radio, there are still charts and FOAMF didn't do very well in any of these metrics in terms of album performance or singles performance. Any metrics they did do well in like reaching no. 1 on the US Rock Airplay charts are metrics they did just as well in on RevRad and/or the trilogy. Also if he's saying that FOAMF was more successful than 21CB, I just don't know what world he's living in. The album that housed 21 Guns? The album that won a grammy for best rock album? The album that had a lot of new interesting sounds that a lot of fans didn't hate but actually loved it for? FOAMF wasn't even NOMINATED for anything

It seems like he's taking advantage of the fact that people don't really know what makes an album successful nowadays since people don't buy albums. But if you just look at chart positions or streaming numbers for all the album tracks on spotify, they're not doing well. Yes, rock music doesn't perform as well currently but even taking that into account, it still doesn't look good

[pacejunkie punk]

Streaming numbers for FOAM on Spotify are ridiculously low for a band of this size.

[Christian's Inferno!]

30 minutes ago, pacejunkie punk said:

Streaming numbers for FOAM on Spotify are ridiculously low for a band of this size.

It's hard to say what the streaming numbers should be for a rock band like Green Day at this point but even if you compare it to the most recent albums from comparable bands like blink-182 or Foo Fighters, FOAM looks even weaker

[Insomniac90]

But fair to say not everyone‘s using Spotify. I‘m using Amazon Music and there is no streaming numbers.

I don‘t blame him for the quality of the songs. It was the bands decision but bitchin‘ around and shoot against the fans of Weezer and Green Day is kinda stupid cause no one‘s blaming him for the records. But tbh FOAM was not well produced comparing to 21st or even RevRad.

[Christian's Inferno!]

15 minutes ago, Insomniac90 said:

But fair to say not everyone‘s using Spotify. I‘m using Amazon Music and there is no streaming numbers.

I don‘t blame him for the quality of the songs. It was the bands decision but bitchin‘ around and shoot against the fans of Weezer and Green Day is kinda stupid cause no one‘s blaming him for the records. But tbh FOAM was not well produced comparing to 21st or even RevRad.

Yeah but there's also a correlation to how much people stream FOAMF on spotify and on other streaming services, just like there is with like every other album. Now that's not to say that there isn't a bigger proportion of streams of FOAMF coming from Amazon music compared to other albums where there may be a bigger proportion of streams coming from spotify but generally low streams on spotify should equal low streams generally, right?

[jengd]

Am I the last music fan on earth that buys music still and doesn’t stream it??