zzjay88 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 It's so fucking sad that Greenday got manipulated by the media into believing something...All these protests arousing now...do you know who's behind them? YES! SOROS https://thehornnews.com/outrage-soros-funding-anti-trump-protests/ Oh yes...the same man Bill Clinton said was dealing with his wife weapons dealing with the middle east. Soros and hilary are the establishment...how can one not see it? If lobbists,media and whatever else is supporting someone as shady and corrupt...you should ask yourself a question maybe... Also trump isntgonna ban muslims..tnose...those words are dated 2015 and when the issue was worse...he was like if theres no other choice to stop isis we're gonna stop muslims from coming in...he never once believed those words. Always about trump ( and im not a trump supporter...i am third party for life) his 3 right arms are a woman,a gay man (one cofounder of paypal that follows the beliefs of "the god" ron paul) and a black man...he is definitely racist,sexist,and homophobe...please at least give proof before accusing someone just because the media do it. About the wall...theres an economical reason behind it...the establishment wants immigration...the war with Iraq was abou this (thats why they left the oil there to come back again) Well they make wars in middle east and for no reason,so ppl escapes to europe and there is a surplus of workers.this way they can pay less for workers and on the other side people will be too busy looking for a job instead of wanting higher salaries more rights and caring for their country.economy is really sad. The side effect of the wall: 1- ignorants will take it as racism, and while many are disgusted, a few are like encouraged to act their racism out, but hey if you are an asshole and a violent guy dont blame your president...he aint responsible for YOUR actions.Thats up to you if you wanna be a fking puppet in soros hands and go out hitting and robbing trump supporters, or hit mexicans which is the fkung SAME. VIOLENCE is BAD to whoever is addressed.Just be a good person and youll see trump is harmless...well less than Shillary. 2-The real side effect is that population will drop drastically. Immigration is the sustain for childbirth counts. No immigration no kids...if we close the US under a dome and they keep acying as they are...theyre gona estinguish. So well we basically need to go out of the crisis,and one good thing is cutting immigration,but no childbirth and no childs=crisi...but immigration means bad for economy too...so were fucked either way. Oh yeah wikileaks...wellif you dont believe me look up there... Theres a funny thing on wikileaks bernie and hillary have a non aggression pact...and while bernie respected that he obviusly isnt supporting hilary even if saying so...Bernie got threatened most likely, and when he approvd hillary he was cloe to tears...hearthbreaking. Also we all know he was robbed of these election...he was ahead, but then hillary bought him, and all his closest supporters moved to trump...emh why if hillary was this good? As this guy said https://medium.com/@FedericoPistono/you-deserve-a-trump-presidency-487ee808bf1a When no one opposdto hillary robbing bernie of his place...you kinda elected trump. So stop the useless protests...because now its not the time...trump is in charge...and the only reason he is its because hillary is scum. I do believe trump will do really good.he isnt a racist or a fascist (spain and portugal are a lot more fascist atm) thats just how the media demonized him covering the interests of corporate lobbysts and corrupted politicians. He is the fk you to the establishment, and you can see how many in the upper levels of this poitical castle ( like banks) hate him...and did everything they could to put their puppet hillary in the white house. #2016YearOfFreedom //brexit!//southcorea and the 8 goddess exiled//and now Trump! I'm disappotinted by billie because he is kinda voicing out loud just wrong things...i know he doesnt do it intentionally...he just got caught up by all this confusion in the mefia and the web...and the way peole are acting doesnt help...i know he is not fond of hillary as much as i dont like trump...you always kinda hear him say she was shady, and i miss bernie and stuff...but idk supporting a murderer of 4 just because you dont like trump and think he is a racist... i am really confused too...if only bernie was here. Billie you teached me how to think,not to believe in what i see on tv...and you fell on this one? and the protests? Please dont join them...violence wont solve violence...we just have to be nice and treat each other respectfully,white,black,yellow,or trump supporter. Still respect the guys so much, but cannot agree with them on this...okay i take what they see...they dont like trump...but trust me hillary meant ww3. putin said that...so well i cannot tollerate them calling trump supporters facist or evil...when most of them were just trying to do the right thing. Hell i know muslims that voted Trump and theyre the most pacifist folks i have ever met... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdlyon Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.C Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I agree with most of what you said. You may have defended Trump a little much, but Hillary is disgusting. Regardless of who it was actually written about, the AI record can still be dedicated to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahd Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 This is getting out of control, I'm so sick of politics in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Too domb to die Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wretched & Divine Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, Shahd said: This is getting out of control, I'm so sick of politics in this forum. I feel you I expect it when I go into the Trump thread, but this is the Green Day forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Green Day have been consistent with their political views for many years. The fact that anyone who knows anything about the band is suddenly surprised by them now is quite frankly ridiculous. Were there this many people acting shocked when American Idiot came out and Billie was denouncing Bush in interviews? I think they've made their stances very clear over the years, you can disagree with them but to be "disappointed" all of a sudden now seems silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe. Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 As far as I can tell Billie Joe has only reacted to trumps comments, and that's not believing media hype or whatever, that's using your ears. Don't understand how a protest can be funded, it's a group of people walking about. But yeah like everyone else said this is the Green Day forum, I'm tired of seeing politics here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Hillary sucks, Trump sucks and this thread sucks too 😪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE THE X-KID Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Hmm yeah I kinda agree actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Seagull Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Billie's a whiny bitch There I said it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Where can I join the Republican party so I can harvest drama too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbie Head Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Most protests are peacefull protests. Those are always good, I'm glad people are going on the streets, it will hopefully send their message and help Trump be careful with what he says and does from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 45 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: Billie's a whiny bitch There I said it It's a shame nobody cares what you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Seagull Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, MysticManiac said: It's a shame nobody cares what you think No one cares what Billie thinks either but that doesn't seem to stop him from posting bullshit on instagram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 10 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: No one cares what Billie thinks either but that doesn't seem to stop him from posting bullshit on instagram I think it's clear quite a lot of people do care what he thinks . But either way at least he has more to say than just calling someone a whiny bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykee Mexx Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 14 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: No one cares what Billie thinks either but that doesn't seem to stop him from posting bullshit on instagram And? You can post your own bullshit here, too. And you do. Too. So what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 14 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: No one cares what Billie thinks either but that doesn't seem to stop him from posting bullshit on instagram Well BJ has 1.1 million followers on Instagram. So I think those people care about what he thinks. And if they don't, then they're stupid for following him on Instagram. How many followers do you have on Instagram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecanoLP Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 26 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: No one cares what Seagull thinks either but that doesn't seem to stop him from posting bullshit on GDC Fixed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzjay88 Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 5 hours ago, Hermione said: Green Day have been consistent with their political views for many years. The fact that anyone who knows anything about the band is suddenly surprised by them now is quite frankly ridiculous. Were there this many people acting shocked when American Idiot came out and Billie was denouncing Bush in interviews? I think they've made their stances very clear over the years, you can disagree with them but to be "disappointed" all of a sudden now seems silly. Thats the problem bush and hillary are the same...she is behind the iraq war...she wanted it and bill clinton confirmed that. Hillary is the establishment...so fuck her.that dead gorilla would hae been better than her...yet he goes around saying she was a good person...thats sick...shes a murderer.Misinformation is scary. Billie is a nice guy...anti war...so well why? If you care that much for trump's tweets...just go and read about ron paul... Ron paul has the best ideas on politics...and trump agrees.that is enough to stop calling people fascists. Of course youre all free to let your mouth run without any knowedge or idea of what you're rambling about...it seems like its the trend nowadays. And about the protests...they do exist only to protect the establishment...trump endangers their money and they dont like it...its not the first time it happens...people on the streets calling for freedom while in truth theyre just giving it away for free 😢 7 hours ago, T.C said: I agree with most of what you said. You may have defended Trump a little much, but Hillary is disgusting. Regardless of who it was actually written about, the AI record can still be dedicated to her. It's nice to see theres still hope out there! Give this guy a chance...if it doesnt work we throw him out the window! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzjay88 Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 5 hours ago, JoeFrusciante said: As far as I can tell Billie Joe has only reacted to trumps comments, and that's not believing media hype or whatever, that's using your ears. Don't understand how a protest can be funded, it's a group of people walking about. But yeah like everyone else said this is the Green Day forum, I'm tired of seeing politics here Still billie disnt mention trump love for ron paul...thats not just listening...the media are taking trumps words and readapting them. Billie said himself he wanted to destroy the term pop punk ( and move to england) but later revealed he didnt mean those...they were just jokes/words. Billie joe called people fascists on his instagram...that is not a nice thing to do.ecpecially when u admittedly say you don't know what is going on. You can state your opinion,but you must respect other's. This is green da forum...green day is politicalever since warning....quit complaining and face reality. Being a fan is not about just going around saying how cute they are...its about breathing their music and messages...wich is pretty clear that with american idiot it had to do with politics. Back then it was him against bush now its him WITH bush... Bush family supportedc Clinton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.C Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 35 minutes ago, Hermione said: I think it's clear quite a lot of people do care what he thinks . But either way at least he has more to say than just calling someone a whiny bitch. No, if anything his comments have caused division in the fan base. So many people have questioned his loyalty to Hillary, who is basically the female Bush, and some have just dropped the band all together because if it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 13 minutes ago, zzjay88 said: Billie joe called people fascists on his instagram...that is not a nice thing to do.ecpecially when u admittedly say you don't know what is going on. You can state your opinion,but you must respect other's. He said people who voted for Trump are fascists OR guilty. And has also acknowledged that not everyone who voted for Trump is fascist or bigoted. So basically he's saying those who agree with Trump's fascist stances are fascists (which is correct), and the rest are guilty of bringing Trump to power (also correct). He didn't call everyone who voted for Trump fascist. You don't have to respect an opinion if you think it's wrong. You can respect someone's right to have it or say it, but you don't have to respect the opinion itself. 10 minutes ago, T.C said: No, if anything his comments have caused division in the fan base. So many people have questioned his loyalty to Hillary, who is basically the female Bush, and some have just dropped the band all together because if it. And? He's simply saying what he thinks, whether fans like what he has to say/like him/want to stay a fan of him is up to them. He's under no obligation (and doesn't seem to have any wish) to try and please all his fans regarding his political opinions. If someone wants to drop the band because it bothers them that Billie dislikes Trump or likes Hillary then they should try not to let the door hit them on the way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, zzjay88 said: Still billie disnt mention trump love for ron paul...thats not just listening...the media are taking trumps words and readapting them. Billie said himself he wanted to destroy the term pop punk ( and move to england) but later revealed he didnt mean those...they were just jokes/words. Billie joe called people fascists on his instagram...that is not a nice thing to do.ecpecially when u admittedly say you don't know what is going on. You can state your opinion,but you must respect other's. This is green da forum...green day is politicalever since warning....quit complaining and face reality The media may have taken Trump's words and rephrased them but we have seen Trump saying some awful things on video. It's fair to say he's an asshole because there's plenty of proof of that. People are being very critical of Hillary Clinton calling her a murderer, liar etc. But I haven't seen any/much evidence supporting those statements. And pretty much every politician ever lies. I haven't seen any evidence indicating that Hillary lies any more than any other politician Also I don't know what the "destroy pop punk" and "moving to England" statements have to do with anything that we're talking about. And as Hermione said, Billie said that Trump voters are either fascist OR guilty of bringing him to power And btw, when JoeFrusciante said that, he meant that he wanted people to discuss politics in different forums of the website as opposed to the Green Day Chat forum. This forum is more for their music etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzjay88 Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, T.C said: No, if anything his comments have caused division in the fan base. So many people have questioned his loyalty to Hillary, who is basically the female Bush, and some have just dropped the band all together because if it. Dropping the band is just a bit drastic imo...He clearly is doing it with the best intention...but you can spread love messages even without supporting openly a crooked politician like her. Everyone makes mistakes true fans should know he still means what he said in 2004...just i know its not easy to grab the right information off the web expecially for a 40 years old guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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