RedundantIdiot Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I don't mind GD stating their political beliefs- my problem is that too much time in their interviews is being devoted to talking about politics. I'm becoming rather tired of reading yet more interviews where politics was the main talking point. In that Warner Facebook live thing they did the other day, almost ten minutes were devoted to the election and then they did the question and answer session. I know the election has just happened- but it kinda felt like the question and answer session was a sideshow to taking about politics. As an English fan of the band, I wish interviewers would ask more questions about the album- because that's what I'm more interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I don't think he has shown much loyalty to Hillary. He supported her mostly because he was so outraged at the things Trump did and said while campaigning. He only came out and said he was voting for her when that vulgar audio recording of Trump was released. I think people are confusing his vote against Trump as an endorsement for Hillary. He picked her because he felt she was the best choice available, as many of us did. And as he has actually said on Instagram, Hillary is old news and it's time to focus on what's happening now. Many many many celebrities supported her very vocally. He wasn't one of them. He only asked that his fans vote for love instead of hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End Of The World Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 America voted Trump. I think this is the only thing that matters. Any other can't be useful. I love GD but when they talk about politics too much I start to be bored. I want the MUSIC. That's what I think. I didn't want Trump, in fact I was with GD. But now he's the president and all the world has to wait. Just this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Protest are not "funded" by politicians, people just do. That's what politicians want to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.C Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 24 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: The media may have taken Trump's words and rephrased them but we have seen Trump saying some awful things on video. It's fair to say he's an asshole because there's plenty of proof of that. People are being very critical of Hillary Clinton calling her a murderer, liar etc. But I haven't seen any/much evidence supporting those statements. And pretty much every politician ever lies. I haven't seen any evidence indicating that Hillary lies any more than any other politician Also I don't know what the "destroy pop punk" and "moving to England" statements have to do with anything that we're talking about. And as Hermione said, Billie said that Trump voters are either fascist OR guilty of bringing him to power And btw, when JoeFrusciante said that, he meant that he wanted people to discuss politics in different forums of the website as opposed to the Green Day Chat forum. This forum is more for their music etc. The murderer claims come from her basically being the sole face behind the invasion of Libya 2011. She also openly laughed and gloated over the death of Gadaffi, who, despite being controversial, was torturted in the worst way possibly and sodomized with a bayonet. She's a war criminal, like Bush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Jake69 said: Politics are ruining this forum. There has been a really negative energy going on recently. Don't see how it's ruining the forum. Green Day are a band who are liberal and left wing so of course the US election result is a negative thing for them and a lot of their fans. It's an important subject so the band/everyone is going to want to express their opinions on it, can't just ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.C Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 25 minutes ago, zzjay88 said: Dropping the band is just a bit drastic imo...He clearly is doing it with the best intention...but you can spread love messages even without supporting openly a crooked politician like her. Everyone makes mistakes true fans should know he still means what he said in 2004...just i know its not easy to grab the right information off the web expecially for a 40 years old guy I can understand fans feeling alienated. Why continue to support your favourite band if you feel they would think you're a bad person for who you voted for? 25 minutes ago, stories and songs said: I don't think he has shown much loyalty to Hillary. He supported her mostly because he was so outraged at the things Trump did and said while campaigning. He only came out and said he was voting for her when that vulgar audio recording of Trump was released. I think people are confusing his vote against Trump as an endorsement for Hillary. He picked her because he felt she was the best choice available, as many of us did. And as he has actually said on Instagram, Hillary is old news and it's time to focus on what's happening now. Many many many celebrities supported her very vocally. He wasn't one of them. He only asked that his fans vote for love instead of hate. He also said in that recent Q&A thing that "Hillary is not the president, she has to own it" Meaning that he acknowledges her fuckups leading to her downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, T.C said: I can understand fans feeling alienated. Why continue to support your favourite band if you feel they would think you're a bad person for who you voted for? The band has never said that everyone who voted for Trump is a bad person 8 minutes ago, T.C said: The murderer claims come from her basically being the sole face behind the invasion of Libya 2011. She also openly laughed and gloated over the death of Gadaffi, who, despite being controversial, was torturted in the worst way possibly and sodomized with a bayonet. She's a war criminal, like Bush. Can you show me proof? What I'm saying is that I've seen countless number of people saying these things about Hillary, but I've never seen proof. The truth is, none of us know anything other than what we hear on the news, the internet, social media etc. And none of these sources are reliable. The closest we can come to a reliable source is actual video footage of Trump or Hillary saying/doing things they've been accused of. And we've seen countless times on camera Trump saying awful things. I haven't seen Hillary do anything wrong. I'm not denying that Hillary has done some bad things. I'm just saying I haven't seen any evidence proving it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzjay88 Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 25 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: People are being very critical of Hillary Clinton calling her a murderer, liar etc. But I haven't seen any/much evidence supporting those statements. And pretty much every politician ever lies. I haven't seen any evidence indicating that Hillary lies any more than any other politician. You want proof? Wikileaks Do you know what it is? Go there...all youre looking for is there. If you want to know it of course...you could just pretend you didnt hear that and still think there is no proof. Of course there is no proof when you ignore it. Also billie said in an interview Obama didnt deserve his nobel price for peace, and i totally agree xD . He has a record for being at war for the most time as a president. Thats why im surprised a smart guy like him got caught up in this. I am pretty sure he will change his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, zzjay88 said: You want proof? Wikileaks Do you know what it is? Go there...all youre looking for is there. If you want to know it of course...you could just pretend you didnt hear that and still think there is no proof. Of course there is no proof when you ignore it. Also billie said in an interview Obama didnt deserve his nobel price for peace, and i totally agree xD . He has a record for being at war for the most time as a president. Thats why im surprised a smart guy like him got caught up in this. I am pretty sure he will change his mind. Can you send me a link showing me proof that she's a liar/murderer? Cause I don't know where to begin how to search for this information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzjay88 Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 21 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: I'm not denying that Hillary has done some bad things. I'm just saying I haven't seen any evidence proving it Wikileaks 30000 emails Farage/Assange drama. https://www.rt.com/usa/361459-secretary-clinton-drone-assange/ assange founder of wikileaks.look up youtube There is too much top copy/paste, so you ca either go there and see, or just keep ignoring the proofs. As i just said you can say there is no proof if you choose to ignore it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, T.C said: I can understand fans feeling alienated. Why continue to support your favourite band if you feel they would think you're a bad person for who you voted for? How could they not have already known that Green Day would be against voting in a president and vice president who ran on a platform of racism, sexism, homophobia, hate and fear if they're their favourite band tho? Like how could anyone be surprised by that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, zzjay88 said: Wikileaks 3000 emails Farage's interviews on youtube There is too much top copy/paste, so you ca either go there and see, or just keep ignoring the proofs. As i just said you can say there is no proof if you choose to ignore it Farage? Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.C Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: The band has never said that everyone who voted for Trump is a bad person Can you show me proof? What I'm saying is that I've seen countless number of people saying these things about Hillary, but I've never seen proof. The truth is, none of us know anything other than what we hear on the news, the internet, social media etc. And none of these sources are reliable. The closest we can come to a reliable source is actual video footage of Trump or Hillary doing things they've been accused of. And we've seen countless times on camera Trump saying awful things. I haven't seen Hillary do anything wrong. I'm not denying that Hillary has done some bad things. I'm just saying I haven't seen any evidence proving it http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/06/new-hillary-emails-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/ 2 minutes ago, Hermione said: How could they not have already known that Green Day would be against voting in a president and vice president who ran on a platform of racism, sexism, homophobia, hate and fear if they're their favourite band tho? Like how could anyone be surprised by that? On the other hand, remember American Idiot? About the establishment and corrupt warmongering politicians? Sounds familiar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second favourite son Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, zzjay88 said: Wikileaks 3000 emails Farage's interviews on youtube There is too much top copy/paste, so you ca either go there and see, or just keep ignoring the proofs. As i just said you can say there is no proof if you choose to ignore it Since when has Nigel Farage been a reliable source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, T.C said: On the other hand, remember American Idiot? About the establishment and corrupt warmongering politicians? Sounds familiar? Trump is part of the establishment, corrupt and not exactly a peaceful hippy himself. One of the two was going to be president, being realistic it was about choosing between them. A liberal band said to vote for the more liberal candidate - shock horror! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.C Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, Hermione said: Trump is part of the establishment, corrupt and not exactly a peaceful hippy himself. One of the two was going to be president, being realistic it was about choosing between them. A liberal band said to vote for the more liberal candidate - shock horror! So they endorsed Gary Johnson? Awesome. Haha jokes....But I wish they kinda did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzjay88 Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: Can you send me a link showing me proof that she's a liar/murderer? Cause I don't know where to begin how to search for this information http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.php#axzz4PtiBg8LX http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/tracking-the-clinton-controversies-from-whitewater-to-benghazi/396182/ http://mobile.wnd.com/2015/05/here-they-are-hillarys-22-biggest-scandals-ever/ http://www.weeklystandard.com/yup-shes-crooked/article/2003312 And here you can search through all her emails: https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/ The only way here is for you to verify and search facts youre curious about in her mails. As i said if you choose to ignore there is no proof . If you need more let me know...if youwant somethig about her connecrion with soros...or how she made sure assange (wikileaks founder) disappeared. 5 minutes ago, Second favourite son said: Since when has Nigel Farage been a reliable source? Since when hes trying to coop with trump about freeing assange from the confinnent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, T.C said: So they endorsed Gary Johnson? Awesome. Haha jokes....But I wish they kinda did What would have come of that though? It was either going to be Hillary or Trump winning and they didn't want it to be Trump, leaving only one real option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I love a nice juicy conspiracy theory on a Sunday, saves me searching for something to watch on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeJennsitized Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 55 minutes ago, stories and songs said: I don't think he has shown much loyalty to Hillary. He supported her mostly because he was so outraged at the things Trump did and said while campaigning. He only came out and said he was voting for her when that vulgar audio recording of Trump was released. I think people are confusing his vote against Trump as an endorsement for Hillary. He picked her because he felt she was the best choice available, as many of us did. And as he has actually said on Instagram, Hillary is old news and it's time to focus on what's happening now. Many many many celebrities supported her very vocally. He wasn't one of them. He only asked that his fans vote for love instead of hate. My feelings exactly. He was a Sanders supporter, and when it became clear Hillary was the only viable candidate to defeat Trump, that's what they focused on. I think it was less about wanting Clinton to win and more about NOT wanting Trump to win. 8 minutes ago, T.C said: So they endorsed Gary Johnson? Awesome. Haha jokes....But I wish they kinda did I'm glad they didn't. Third party votes were wasted in this election. I am for protesting the system but this was not the time to do it. And the third party votes could have made a difference in terms of keeping Trump away from the White House. Edit: Also jesus christ, stfu about the emails. Trump is a white supremacist, literally ANYONE would have been better than him, corrupt as you think Hillary is. At least she didn't fucking advocate sexual assault and keeping tags on muslims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Plot twist: Green Day in fact voted Trump so they had someone to protest about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second favourite son Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, T.C said: So they endorsed Gary Johnson? Awesome. Haha jokes....But I wish they kinda did Yeah, they should have endorsed the candidate who clearly knows the issues he'll have to deal with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.C Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, Jenn. said: My feelings exactly. He was a Sanders supporter, and when it became clear Hillary was the only viable candidate to defeat Trump, that's what they focused on. I think it was less about wanting Clinton to win and more about NOT wanting Trump to win. I'm glad they didn't. Third party votes were wasted in this election. I am for protesting the system but this was not the time to do it. And the third party votes could have made a difference in terms of keeping Trump away from the White House. But on the other hand they basically voted for someone which American Idiot was written about. It feels eeeky But I get the other point that they wanted to pick who they regarded as the lesser of the two evils too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzjay88 Posted November 13, 2016 Author Share Posted November 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, Hermione said: Trump is part of the establishment, corrupt and not exactly a peaceful hippy himself. One of the two was going to be president, being realistic it was about choosing between them. A liberal band said to vote for the more liberal candidate - shock horror! Who said trump is establishment? You have proof or youre just sayin what billie said? Read up http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/28/politics/donald-trump-ted-cruz-anti-establishment/ http://ijr.com/2016/03/570388-heres-some-pretty-strong-proof-that-donald-trump-is-anti-establishment/ http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21709926-soon-eyes-will-turn-new-european-vote-poised-go-against-elite-after-trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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