Hermione Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: The guy hates guns so I really don't get why he chooses a really crap gun metaphor in a love song as what it could represent for someone who isn't terrified of them. It's not like the English language is that limited. It makes no difference if he hates guns. One word or object can represent multiple different things. Sorry but it's ridiculous to suggest he can't reference something just because he doesn't like it. He probably doesn't like being told "fuck you!" either but that doesn't mean he can't reference it in a different context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 This video (or something similar) would have fit some of the Dos songs really well. Like Wild One, Baby Eyes or especially Wow! That's Loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 23 minutes ago, Hermione said: It makes no difference if he hates guns. One word or object can represent multiple different things. Sorry but it's ridiculous to suggest he can't reference something just because he doesn't like it. He probably doesn't like being told "fuck you!" either but that doesn't mean he can't reference it in a different context. Did I say he "can't reference something because he doesn't like it"?! Of course I didn't say that. He references guns in loads of songs. It's this particular metaphor and the interpretation which was on the previous page which suggested he would feel empowered by a gun, respect and flaunt it which I think is dumb. Feel free to think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second favourite son Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 35 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Sorry but this makes absolutely no sense to me. Billie Joe Armstrong, absolute hater of guns who wants to melt them all down would respect and flaunt a gun and feel empowered by it??!! He implicitly said in the clip I posted on the previous page that he is terrified of guns, hates them and thinks they should all be destroyed. I never said that Billie Joe would respect and flaunt a gun and feel empowered by it - I'm saying many people do. That, in itself, is enough for him to use it as a simile. Similes are not meant to be taken literally, they are used to convey an idea, which he does very well here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 On 10/7/2016 at 11:18 AM, Second favourite son said: @pucky He means he wants to hold her with care and respect, yet flaunt her - as he would do with a gun. 12 minutes ago, Second favourite son said: I never said that Billie Joe would respect and flaunt a gun and feel empowered by it - I'm saying many people do. Huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 On 7. 10. 2016 at 11:58 AM, Scattered Wreck said: I watched it without sound as well, but my sound system is working just fine. I love you. On 7. 10. 2016 at 0:03 PM, Steven Seagull said: The person who did these videos is the real MVP. The cedar vagina haha The only positive thing I can say about this album as a whole. the red makes me think of periods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platypus2000 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 People approaching this song too seriously. Way too much hate on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Huh Maybe he should have said "as one would do with a gun" then . Doesn't have to apply to him irl for him to conjure up the image of a gun being treated that way (as it sometimes is) as a metaphor in the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 18 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Did I say he "can't reference something because he doesn't like it"?! Of course I didn't say that. He references guns in loads of songs. It's this particular metaphor and the interpretation which was on the previous page which suggested he would feel empowered by a gun, respect and flaunt it which I think is dumb. Feel free to think otherwise. It makes perfect sense. Holding a gun is a strange feeling, it's almost scary in fact. You need to have some kind of respect to it, it's a deadly weapon. You have to be careful with it even if you can use it well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Jane Lannister said: It makes perfect sense. Holding a gun is a strange feeling, it's almost scary in fact. You need to have some kind of respect to it, it's a deadly weapon. You have to be careful with it even if you can use it well. I don't believe based on Billies own words that he has anything but hatred for guns, certainly not respect but I wasn't debating the merit of the actual lyrics which I think are crap in this song anyway, just Second Favourite Sons interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second favourite son Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 18 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Huh I see what you've misunderstood: Billie would never hold a gun If Billie wanted to hold a gun, he would hold it like this Two different uses of the word 'would' here, one expressing an alternative tense of 'will', the other clearly expressing the conditional. Can't change how the English language works, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platypus2000 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 There's a lot of analysis going on with the lyrics considering they're "utter shit" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 24 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: I don't believe based on Billies own words that he has anything but hatred for guns, certainly not respect but I wasn't debating the merit of the actual lyrics which I think are crap in this song anyway, just Second Favourite Sons interpretation. "wHAT, 21 GunS?!?, why so many???? Billy Hoe hates gunz, not even 21 Gun. 0.5/10" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefano Bras Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 57 minutes ago, Jake69 said: Are you kidding?!?! Would it be better if he said I want to hold you like a water pistol. I've never seen someone over analyze lyrics so much! Fucking genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DookieLukie Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Is Hero of the Hour a Seagull dupe account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rohan Kamble Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Check out my Cover of youngblood guys! And subscribe to my channel for more such videos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerjeezus Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 hours ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: I don't believe based on Billies own words that he has anything but hatred for guns, certainly not respect but I wasn't debating the merit of the actual lyrics which I think are crap in this song anyway, just Second Favourite Sons interpretation. You don't have to like guns to feel a sense of respect around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, DookieLukie said: Is Hero of the Hour a Seagull dupe account? Obviously. Only one person could possibly dislike anything about a song or album by Green Day. GDC logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Seagull Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said: Obviously. Only one person could possibly dislike anything about a song or album by Green Day. GDC logic. Don't let Lukie stop you! He was one of the saltiest members during trilogy era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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