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Billie's posts https://www.instagram.com/reel/DB-I4EAt7wa/?igsh=MXhoeTZqb3d5bjBrcw== https://www.instagram.com/reel/DB-KeFUNtqb/?igsh=MThobXZ5NmQ5OXpqYQ== https://www.instagram.com/reel/DB-K0NSNRuy/?igsh=bHdkY3J4ODM5NGNr Some screenshots8 points
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Good for Billie! Not sure if him and his wife being from the same locations as Harris and Walz is sound reasoning for voting for them but the rest is. It's so important for people to get out and use their votes so any reminder like this is good.7 points
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So, after being absolutely obsessed with Green Day since January 2nd 2005 (yes I remember the exact date), the obsession faded away gradually, but steadily and completely (or so I thought at the time) some time around 2013. It was not too long after the Trilogy came out. For a decade I walked around having no idea what Green Day was up to. I heard they were releasing a new album, Revolution Radio, but paid zero attention to it. Life was too hectic at the time, my music taste had branched out a bit, and the name, Revolution Radio, I think reminded me too much of 99 Revolutions, which is one of my least favorite Green Day songs. Father of all... didn't even register on my radar. Then October 30th 2023 comes, I checked Instagram mindlessly scrolling while dngrinki my coffee after some morning meeting, and a Green Day post catches my eye because it has the words Bataclan and Paris in it. All this time I had kept Green Day on my Instagram, but I wasn't paying attention, I would very often skip their stories when they were promoting stuff (I know, I know), so I wasn't sure what this was. A memory from a show they played at Bataclan? No! It's a show in Bataclan for that weekend. I got the feeling that I owed it to my teenage/early twenties self to at least try to go. Back when I was obsessed with Green Day I was living in Venezuela, and I remembered often seeing Green Day (or one of their side projects) playing these "surprise" shows in small venues, and a lot of my online friends in the US or the UK going, and as happy as I felt for them, I also felt so left out. I would have given an arm and a leg back then for Green Day to play a small surprise show in my city. And now here I was, living in Paris, and Green Day was going to play here, in Paris, in a venue with a capacity of 1500 people no more than 40min away from my place! So yes, I felt I owed it to myself to at least try to get a ticket. On the other hand I genuinely had an ethical conundrum: because this had been my dream back then, I knew how much this could mean to people who were fans now, today. If I got a ticket, would I be occupying a place I no longer deserved, and someone else who deserved it more would be left out? I know it might sound silly, but I really struggled with this. In the end I decided to leave it to fate: I would try to buy the tickets, and I knew it wasn't going to be easy, so if I got them that'd be it, I'd go. Tickets went on sale next morning, October 31st, and I was the billionth person on the queue, by the time it was my turn it appeared to be sold it. "Oh well, I saved some good money at least!" Went into a zoom meeting for work, and when it was over some 30min later, I switched tabs and tried again, kind of just out of habit. And suddenly I have two tickets for the show in Bataclan! So I tell my partner we're going to see Green Day live this Saturday, and he's a bit confused by this (he has stayed confused by the effect this band has on me ever since ). So to hype myself up I decide to listen to their whole discography again and to catch up and listen to what they had released since the Trilogy. (Revolution Radio was love at first sight, Father of all.. has grown on me). So by Saturday I am very excited, but still sane We arrive to the venue about 20 minutes before doors and the line was huge! By the time we got in the area in front of the stage was very full, so I stayed back on a slightly higher level in which I was right at the front, so I had a pretty good view. I hadn't been to a Green Day show since 2010, I hadn't seen what their shows were like lately, so I had no idea what expect in terms of anything: setlist, duration, did they still sound amazing live? did they still have so much energy? And then they came on stage, and the moment they played the first chords of American Idiot (the opening song for that show) insanity came rushing back. It was instant. I was suddenly 15 again, living out a dream I didn't know I still had. They sounded as good as I remembered, they were still as full of energy, and full of surprises. They played Look Ma No Brains twice in a row, they also played TADIKM twice (but not in a row), Geek Stink Breath and Stuart and the Ave. They debuted 1981, the played Revolution Radio and Father of all, which were a debut for me at least, Letterbomb, which I didn't know had become less rare in their live shows, then they brought someone on stage to play Good Riddance, something I had never seen them do before. I just couldn't stop smiling and singing along and jumping up and down the whole time (and I had a bad foot and a bad knee at the time, but they also reverted back to their teenage version, because they didn't bother me once during the show). And I remembered all the lyrics too! The only song I couldn't sing along to were 1981 and Father of all. I loved and enjoyed every second of it.7 points
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After waiting ages, finally got my boxset yesterday and not having spoiled myself until then, here are my first impressions (I know probably most/all of this has been discussed by now, but bear with me, I had stayed away from this thread - I will catch up and read what I missed later): American Idiot alt version is the missing link between the Green Day of Nimrod and Warning and the Green Day of American Idiot. Very interesting! Novacaine - Same song (as far as I can hear) as the leaked demos from a couple of weeks ago. She's a Rebel - For me, the song that improved the most by being fitted into the AI narrative arch. Radio Baghdad - Same lyrics as the leaked demos, but this one has the proper out I think, no? So the leaked demos probably predated this one. Cluster bomb - Already so close to Letterbomb, but pretty amazing to see how a few subtle changes elevated the song to the next level to become Letterbomb. WMUWSE - So much better in its final version (or even the leaked demo version) with the lines about his father passing. It just hits differently and so much more. I'm glad Billie decided to keep it like that. Homecoming - Jesus fucking christ. I love this band. Thank you thank you thank you so much for letting us listening to that beautiful hot chaotic mess. I guess this is a pretty raw version of that seed of Homecoming, and eventually of the whole album, that they have talked about so much. Also, it gave me very strong The Who vibes! I really feel like they were listening to Tommy and decided they wanted to do their own punk rock opera, and not knowing how to go about that, they were like "okay, let's just write whatever and stack them together just as fun exercise, okay? Now, Mike, I'm going to hope over real quick to the county jail to deal with my DUI, Tre is going to help Jason White with something, just stay here and start" and bam! And then it starts becoming a bit more organized very progressively. Just Another Year and Everyone's Breaking Down - It's funny, after having no idea what these songs would be for the longest time, yesterday before listening to the demos I decided to first listen to AI, and I was reading the lyrics as I went along (hadn't done that in ages!) when I got to Homecoming part I and "waste another year flies by" I was like... could Just Another Year be a spin off or the seed for this? And then in the last part "the 7-11 to the fear of breaking down" and again I was like... Everyone's Breaking Down be linked to this? I loved them both. I do wonder what came first though? Particularly for Everyone's Breaking Down, was it the bit in Homecoming demo that they then tried to expand into a song, or they borrowed from this song to tack it on the Homecoming demo? Lowlife - I also loved this! And this one I didn't suspect at all what it'd be! After hearing the previous two, I thought maybe it'd be some version of Rock and Roll Life from Homecoming, so when the dearly beloved line hit it was a shock! But I also loved it! Whatsername - I think this might also be identical to the leaked demo? I haven't had the time to read the booklet that came with the boxset, any clues in there as to what the timeline for Homecoming/Just Another Year and Everyone's Breaking Down might be? Or for when JoS and Lowlife got merged? Overall, really enjoyed seeing the changes they made to songs that were already very formed, to fit them into the story arch. Novacaine going from "everything's better than here" to "Jimmy says it's better than here" probably being the most subtle. But the changes to the lyrics of She's a Rebel, Radio Baghdad and Cluster bomb too, all very interesting to see!6 points
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I've been replaying Rock Band lately, so of course, I pulled out Green Day Rockband. I was playing a stage based on Milton Keynes and my bf walks in and observes. He says: "Why are they so buff?! Billie's not that buff!"5 points
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Bataclan was, by far, the best gig I've ever been too. I'd told work colleagues I was going to try for a ticket and one kindly offered to cover my shift if I got one. Sent her a message that morning saying I'd tried and failed, but thanks for the offer. An hour later, decide to try my luck again and, low and behold, I actually get one! Cue pandemonium trying to get her to take my shift again, booking flights and accommodation and all the gubbins that come with international travel. My flight home was standby (I work in the travel industry, so cheaper standby flights are a benefit). However the flight was oversold, so I was sat in CDG for 6 hours waiting for a flight home, wondering if I'm end up like Tom Hanks in The Terminal and living in Terminal 2's departure lounge. Fortunately I got on in the end, and never have I been so relieved to sit in a middle seat. Still, the stress of fighting with a ticket site in a language I don't read well, booking flights, hotels, shift swaps and the added stress of getting home was worth it to see my favourite band in such an intimate and iconic setting and I'd do it all again in a heartbeat. Hella Tiny Tour 2025, anyone?5 points
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That's true, I think he also just can't stop himself shouting out the Bay Area and Minnesota haha. No harm done to the message. The water bottle thing is classic Billie4 points
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I've finally cracked into this set. I haven't listened to everything, but most of the demos are interesting to hear, but don't do much for me. Aside from a few songs most of them sound like the final version. What I do love is the documentary. I didn't expect it to be almost 2 hours! It was fantastic! It's such a nice trip down memory lane. A great mix of archival footage, live stuff, and new interviews with the boys. I really enjoyed it. This is what I wanted from HLAHG. Speaking of which, I wish that movie wasn't included with the box set. It received its own release, so it feels a bit redundant. I'd rather have a full live show or a blu-ray full of AI era performances.2 points
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He might’ve meant that they’re familiar with their track records because of where they/their families are from! But Billie also seems to exclusively post video messages when he’s moments away from bedtime so I can’t speak to if that was the logic or if he was rambling. Loved his story about drawing Hitler mustaches on all the Trump water bottles lol. And yes, it’s so important to vote! Happy Election Day everybody, do the thing if you’re in the US!2 points
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Who is talking at the beginning of Everyone's Breaking Down? Sounds like maybe Cigarettes and Valentines or American Idiot were going to have that radio-static thing going on - possibly tied to their pirate radio station.2 points
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Ugh, I'd do disgusting, terrible things to have a Rock Band guitar again. Would give me an excuse to dust off the PS3. Still can't believe both my favorite bands got their own Rock Band games. Shame we never got the Lookout era material for DLC like they were planning at one point.1 point
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10 lessons you can learn from the last 50 years of punk (See Example 5 for Green Day style) Story by Charlie Griffiths Punk is traditionally ensconced in a DIY ethic, from its “use what ya got” approach with gear to self-taught playing and musicianship. This was probably truer in the '70s heyday – and punk has come a long way since, spawning a raft of sub-genres. We could list these, but perhaps the most telling fact is that pop-punk, post-punk, and more of those sub-genres are now all on their second or third revivals, with acts like Idles, Fontaines D.C., and Yungblud at the forefront today. For us guitarists, there’s now greater musical history to draw on, and a lot more techniques to learn too. Our lesson here takes you through 10 examples which are loosely based around one or two artists apiece, but, more importantly, focus on the techniques you need to know to cover 50+ years of punk. As ever, your aim is to improve your playing, so don’t worry if you don’t master each example in full. It’s all about identifying the bite-sized ideas that you’re not so familiar with, then adding them to your own arsenal of techniques. Example 1. Offbeat chord changes We’re kicking off in the style of US shock-punk rockers, Misfits, with a riff using barre chords from the key of B major and delivered in continuous eighth-note downstrokes. Take careful note of where the chord changes appear. They’re played on the offbeat on several occasions, so, if you’re counting to four to keep time with the quarter-note pulse, the changes will appear in between the numbers. Example 2. Sliding approach chord Played with E and A major barre chords at the 12th fret, this riff is spiced up with a slide from a semitone below each chord, Johnny Ramone style. It’s a technique that you’ll also hear on God Save The Queen by the Sex Pistols, amongst tracks by countless other acts. Keep your hand and fingers fixed in the barre chord shape and focus on sliding each finger across the fret-wires at the same time. Example 3. Chromatic riffing This riff is something Black Flag’s Dez Cadena might play to create a spooky sound – an effect that comes from the chromatic arrangement of notes, instead of staying within the key signature. Use your wrist and thumb to control the pick in an even alternate picking motion and use your four fretting fingers to span from the 5th fret down to the 1st. Stub your fretting fingers up against the idle strings to keep ’em quiet. Example 4. Muted strumming Add interesting rhythms to your strummed barre chords here by mixing full chords with muted strings in the style of Fall Out Boy’s Joe Trohman. For these mutes, hold the chord shapes with your fretting fingers and relax them so they are touching the strings but not pressing into the frets. Note that the mutes don’t appear on the same beats in every bar – and you can experiment further with this idea. Example 5. Green Day-style open string changes Play rapid-fire Green Day-style chord changes by adding open string strums as you make the position shift. Moving between two chords can be tricky at high tempos and quickly strumming the open strings in between chords is a good way of giving your fretting hand time to find the shape, as well as being a subtle but important nuance of punk rhythm playing. Example 6. Pop-punk major melodies This technique is a great way of creating an energetic, positive vibe like Tom DeLonge’s upbeat pop-punk style in Blink-182. Here, we’re using the notes of E major (E F# G# A B C# D#) along the length of the first string, and using that repeating open E note (known as a pedal tone) to really root the lick in its intended key. Use alternate picking or try hammer-ons and pull-offs. It’s up to you. Example 7. Ska feel Focusing the rhythm guitar on beats 2 and 4 gives this riff a ska feel akin to Mick Jones on The Clash’s London Calling. Ska would overlap elsewhere in the genre with The Police’s post-punk style then later in the 90s with the ska-punk scene. Our riff has a swung eighth-note feel which means longer downstrokes and shorter upstrokes. Example 8. Dissonant bends Mark Bowen of Idles creates striking guitar parts by employing dissonant string bends, sometimes on a single string and other times using unison bends. The idea here is to bend the lower string to match the pitch of the fretted higher string. The slower you do it, the more dissonant and sour it will sound. You might say it’s a “classic rock” technique, but it’s used extensively in punk and its sub-genres too. Example 9. Octave lick We’re taking inspiration from East Bay Ray of Dead Kennedys and Dave Baksh of Sum 41 here. You’ll hear countless bands use octave shapes, though, filling out the sound of melody lines. Play the lower note with your first finger and the higher note with your third or fourth, ensuring you keep the idle strings silent by resting your fretting fingers against them. Ideally, you should be able to strum without string noise. Example 10. Yungblud-style single-note riff This single-note Yungblud style riff uses the A natural minor scale (A B C D E F G) starting with the open fifth string. After the root note, keep your hand steady and in position as you play the scale notes with your first, second, and fourth fingers. Pick each note with a downstroke for an even, consistent attack, making sure you strike the string exactly when your fretting fingers land.1 point
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Why does Boy George look like he's grimacing?!🤣 I think it's probably just a huge happy grin but still..🤓1 point
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At the end of the documentary, Mike says that looked like a 3 million dollar what video?1 point
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Watching the documentary for the second time right now with a couple of beers before my work week starts 😎 (side note: I was thinking of getting weezer’s 30th anniversary blue album cd pack but saw it’s basically double the price of this with less stuff, so I’m torn.)1 point
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OPINION: 20 years later, Green Day’s ‘American Idiot’ message remains strong https://www.thenewpolitical.com/opinion/hny4rl55sicpquq509iwcklrzwec5c “Losing the desire to play”: The tour that Green Day hated https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-tour-green-day-hated/ Download 2025 Headliners: Here are 10 acts tipped to top the bill at Donington - including Green Day https://www.scotsman.com/whats-on/download-2025-headliners-here-are-10-acts-tipped-to-top-the-bill-at-donington-including-green-day-48460561 point
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On this day last year (4 November 2023), Green Day played the Bataclan in Paris, France. More photos: 20 years ago (4 November 2004), Green Day were on Musique Plus in Montreal, Canada. More photos: Later that day, Green Day played the Centre Bell in Montreal, Canada. 27 years ago (4 November 1997), Green Day played the Theatre Club in Fort Lauderdale, FL on the Nimrod Tour. "The place was packed! Billie Joe even said, 'This place is way overcrowded, but I won't say anything.' Green Day started off with Nice Guys Finish Last, but only played about 4 songs from Nimrod. I was a little surprised to hear Green Day go back so far and play Knowledge and Paper Lanterns, but I was thrilled because I love those songs. Throughout the show, Billie Joe and Mike sprayed water from at the crowd in the front. In the middle of the show, one kid was on someone's shoulders, shining a flashlight in Billie's eyes, so Billie got a flashlight and said, 'How the fuck do you like it? No one wants to look at you, get the fuck down. My flashlight is bigger than yours.' Billie posed like Marilyn Manson and chanted, 'The beautiful people, the beautiful people,' when starting Longview. Billie was very funny. Tre was quite calm until the end when he trashed his drum set. He jumped on it, causing it to collapse and the picked pieces of it up, then smashed it back down. Mike didn't say much, except a few things that I couldn't understand. Finally, after their encore, Mike and Billie broke out the champagne and squirted it on fans in the front. Green Day sounded awesome, and put on a GREAT show. They were truly spectacular and no one was disappointed!" 29 years ago (4 November 1995), Green Day played the Community War Memorial in Rochester, NY on the Insomniac Tour. 30 years ago (4 November 1994), Green Day played the Olympic Velodrome in Carson, CA on the Dookie Tour. "This was a challenging shoot. The place was huge, the bleachers were a mile away so I had to get somewhat close to make it worthwhile. There were areas on the grass that had little humps of hills and I staked one out so I could shoot over the crowd, here is the results. WHAT'S UP YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS!" — fromthenosebleeds More stills from that video: 33 years ago (4 November 1991), Green Day played Roter Sand in Bremerhaven, Germany. 35 years ago (4 November 1989), Green Day played in El Sobrante, CA. I had no idea they'd gone to South America so early in their career, or if I did know I'd forgotten. They totally could have played Venezuela. Thanks for sharing your story! I'm so glad you got to have this experience It sounds absolutely wild!1 point
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I'm just sitting here day dreaming a day and had a thought. GD should play Milton Keynes bowl again! I mean, it will be twenty years since they played it, so it's about time and a nice anniversary. Bullet in a Bible 2.0! How epic would that be?!😍 I've got more chance of winning the lottery, but still a nice random thought.lol!1 point
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I love this post of Billie fangirling a bit "They played the album in its entirety and then a bunch of hits!" Yes Billie, that's how we feel too1 point
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I think FOAM is as it is on purpose. Everything from the songs, to the artwork, to how they promoted the album (the few interviews I have seen at least) sounds to me like they wanted that album to be different from their usual, and to be fun: to be short, fast paced, and most of all not to be taken too seriously. That's why for me it makes perfect sense that they saved such a political song as TADIKM for Saviors. They probably also saved songs that they felt had a lot more of potential for the next album.1 point
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i "think" they took credit for Stop, Drop and Roll because they "gave" that song to the Hot tubs alongside Pedestrian and Broadway (and they got Fuck Time, Stray Heart, Stay The Night and Lazy Bones in return) while the network directly "stole" from them (but in revenge green day "stole" Govenator from them)1 point
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I'm not really into this huge desire to talk about/get C&V but I will add what Rob Cavallo writes in the AI 20 booklet. "So, I got together with the band and they tole me they had written an entire album's worth of material. Wow! Awesome! But there was a problem. The guys were sounding, for whatever reason, just a little bit rusty. The music was good but was it really their best? I took it to my boss (the prescient Tom Whaley . He agreed with me. He said "let's meet with the band". A few days later in the Warner Bros executive conference room, Tom says to me and the guys " we appreciate what you guys have gone through and appreciate this new album. And while we are prepared to release it, we are not prepared to give it the big push (meaning marketing $) because we don't believe this is the best work you are capable of". BOOM! He was so brutally direct! I think I was sweating profusely. Billie looked directly at me and asked "is that what you think too?" "Yes I said, nodding my affirmation. Billie said "ok, let me think about this and process it, and we'll get back to you." Two days later, we were all back in the same conference room. Billie starts "So I';ve been thinking about what you guys said last time....and I think you're right. We want to make out best record and we want you guys to like it and to give it the big push. And we are willing to do what it takes to make that happen. The question is: Tom, are you willing to do it also?" Tom said "sure, what do you need?" The rest is about Rob going to work with them Monday to Friday in Berkeley.1 point
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