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I think FOAM is as it is on purpose. Everything from the songs, to the artwork, to how they promoted the album (the few interviews I have seen at least) sounds to me like they wanted that album to be different from their usual, and to be fun: to be short, fast paced, and most of all not to be taken too seriously. That's why for me it makes perfect sense that they saved such a political song as TADIKM for Saviors. They probably also saved songs that they felt had a lot more of potential for the next album.5 points
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No, this album is fun. I'm by no means exclusively a fan of punk music. It's okay that some people enjoy this album and others don't. Music is subjective and I think this album is quite good. It's short, it's fun, it makes me happy. Not everything needs to reinvent the wheel. Sometimes a good song is just that, a good song.4 points
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I've been doing monthly roundups of this stuff on GDA: https://www.greendayauthority.com/news/6215/ But I haven't been able to finish the last two because of a technical issue 😅 I can only post news so there's nothing I can do about that unfortunately. If/when it's fixed I'll finish them. This thread will obviously be here and in chronological order as long as GDC is. The GDA Tumblr can also be searched by date or place. To look for something specific, you can start with the URL https://greendayauthority.tumblr.com/tagged/ and add the place or date you're looking for to the end, eg. https://greendayauthority.tumblr.com/tagged/london or https://greendayauthority.tumblr.com/tagged/2 november. All the images that appear in the GDA Instagram story are also tagged on Tumblr with On This Day. If anyone is looking for anything specific and can't find it, you're also welcome to message me. To be honest though I don't know if I'll finish the project. I want to because it’s helping the GDA Instagram grow and I hope it’s helping GDC (which is why I’m doing it), but it’s taking up nearly all my free time. As supportive as my girlfriend is of everything I do, she’s very sick of hearing “I’m doing On This Day” 😂 Anyway, I'll do the next few days at least. Maybe I will finish it. I might decide I can't bear to give up on it at this point. The stuff will eventually be uploaded to Tumblr regardless. Anyway, 7 years ago yesterday (1 November 2017), Green Day played in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, on the Revolution Radio Tour. More photos: 13 years ago (1 November 2011), Green Day played the Mezzanine in San Francisco, CA. They were supported by Kut U Up and if you think you know that name, it's because Billie branded Chris Cote on the Pop Disaster Tour. More importantly, they PLAYED 8TH AVENUE SERENADE. More photos: Shoutout to that photographer because all their photos from that show are brilliant. None of their pages are up anymore though. 15 years ago (1 November 2009), Green Day played Wembley Arena in London, England on the 21st Century Breakdown Tour. More photos: After the Wembley show, the Foxboro Hot Tubs played the Garage in Islington... and Stop, Drop & Roll was played no less than six times. "Green Day played a super-intimate impromptu show in their alternative guise as Foxboro Hot Tubs in the early hours of this morning in London (November 1). The band put in a chaotic performance at the Relentless Garage in Islington, hitting the stage shortly before 1am, playing to an audience of fanclub members, competition winners and invited guests. The venue had seen a show by poodle rockers Europe earlier in the evening, before shutting down and re-opening its doors at midnight. Arriving onstage dressed in a '60s-style suit, braces and trenchcoat, a clearly inebriated Billie Joe Armstrong introduced himself as his alter-ego The Reverend Strychnine Twist and proceeded to spend most of the show crowdsurfing, spraying and spitting beer into the crowd and addressing the front rows as 'baby girl.' Mike Dirnt arrived onstage smoking a cigarette while Tre Cool, also spraying beer into the front rows, was wearing a leopard print jacket. They were augmented by fellow Hot Tubs Jason White and Kevin Preston on guitar and Jason Freese on saxophone. The garage rock party band then played all the songs from last year's album 'Stop, Drop And Roll'. Green Day fans were in for a treat with a rare of airing of the main band's track Blood, Sex And Booze from their Warning album as well as Supermodel Robots, a track by the band's other alter-egos, The Network. As the night wore on, the band continued to goof around with Dirnt telling the audience: 'The only reason you’re here is you didn’t go to church yesterday.' Armstrong then asked the audience if they supported nearby football team Arsenal, before saying 'my favourite football team is Carling,' and spraying more of the beer into the crowd. With their entire catalogue exhausted after little more than half-an-hour, the band were not letting that put them off. Returning for the encore, the singer announced 'before anything else, we’re going to play the first song over again' - by the end of the show they would have played Stop Drop And Roll a total of six times, each time announcing that they could play it better than before. 27th Ave. Shuffle also got a second airing, and the band filled the rest of the time - close to two hours by the end - with a selection of covers including the Ramones' Blitzkrieg Bop, Chuck Berry's Johnny B. Goode and 'My Generation' and 'A Quick One, While He’s Away' by The Who, repeating the 'you are forgiven' line over and over again, before playing Stop, Drop And Roll one final time." — NME (they called him The Reverend Strychnine "Twist," not me) @Hermione More photos: 26 years ago (1 November 1998), Green Day played a second night at the Parque Sarmiento in Buenos Aires, Argentina on the Nimrod Tour. 29 years ago (1 November 1995), Green Day played the Aitken University Centre in Fredericton, Canada on the Insomniac Tour (and pissed on the crowd). "I went to see Green Day back in 1995, in Fredericton, NB, Canada. One of our local school bus drivers drove us all up there for the price of gas (we lived about two hours away), and he brought a couple dozen of us up there. It was one of the better shows I've ever been to, highly energetic, entertaining, and everyone had fun. Heh, I remember I had dyed my hair red with Kool Aid. By the time we went home, my ears were ringing, my mascara had run down my face, my dye had run down onto my white T-shirt (but hey, I had my trusty gray plaid shirt on to cover it up, which was the style at the time, I felt like I'd been beat up, and Billie Joe had actually spit in my eye while singing Going to Pasalacqua. I lost my Doc Martin shoe (hee!) but ended up getting it back in the mosh pit of all places. We had snuck our cigarettes in, and lit up before the show started, and one of the security guys saw us and said, 'HEY! You kids! No smoking in here!' And three of us looked at him in horror, then simultaneously squatted down into the crowd. We were never caught, but we finished our cigarettes quickly. Toward the end of the show, Billie dropped his pants, shirt and underwear. He was up there wearing nothing but his socks and his guitar. Sadly, because it was an all ages show, they were banned from playing there for a couple of years. Oops. However, my best friend, Adam, who is gay and had the hugest crush on Billie, came away the happiest that night. The show rocked. They sounded tight, they had fun, we had fun. I'll never forget it." — fan 30 years ago (1 November 1994), Green Day played the Arizona State Fair in Phoenix on the Dookie Tour. “This was my first concert. 14 years old. It changed my life forever. The energy was palpable. I'd never felt anything like it before. Before the concert started, the floor of the stadium was empty and all the seats around the Coliseum were full with every single punk and delinquent that lived in AZ at the time. I didn't even know that many existed in the state. Right before the band took the stage, the lights shut off and the stadium went dark. When the lights came back on, all the seats were empty. Practically every single person ran from their seats, down to the floor. And as the first song started, a sea of mosh pits erupted across the whole stadium floor and didn't end till the show was over.“ — Neill Holley “I was there too... I was a new paramedic working in medical up on the 2nd concourse. Had maybe 20-25 people with broken arms and wrists, a couple with broken jaws, some missing teeth, and a few asthma attacks. Once I stepped out of the 1st aid station and went to the rail to look over, it was chaos! I remember even now there were 5 mosh pits, and t-shirts were on fire and flying left and right like artillery shells in the dark. I'll never forget it. That was almost exactly 30 years ago and tomorrow I go to the Saviors tour in Arizona! This time as a fan.” — aerojef 33 years ago (1 November 1991), Green Day played 1000FRYD in Aalborg, Denmark. ------------------------------------------ On this day last year (2 November 2023), the Look Ma, No Brains music video was released. 5 years ago (2 November 2019), Green Day played the MTV World Stage in Seville, Spain. My recap is still up on GDA. https://www.greendayauthority.com/news/5942/ More photos: 20 years ago (2 November 2004), Green Day played the Air Canada Centre in Toronto, Canada on the American Idiot Tour. 24 years ago (2 November 2000), Green Day were interviewed and played 15 songs on Much Music Intimate and Interactive in Toronto, Canada. More photos: 27 years ago (2 November 1997), Green Day played the Buzz Bake Sale in West Palm Beach, FL on the Nimrod Tour. 30 years ago (2 November 1994), Green Day played the Hollywood Palladium on the Dookie Tour. They were supported by Pansy Division. "The audience tension during our set was more palpable. In the middle of one song, I got hit in the chest with a full Big Gulp-size cup of ice water. Pelted with coins, at one point I turned to David Ward midsong to see a trickle of blood dripping down from the middle of his forehead. He'd been hit with a quarter square on, but didn't know he was bleeding. Coins made big dents on my guitar. But we were defiant, Chris even more in-your-face than before, and it was exhilarating. After watching Green Day's set from the side of the stage, I walked out to where the T-shirts were being sold, and as the crowd dwindled, I saw a father buying his fifteen- or sixteen-year-old son a Pansy Division T-shirt. It was satisfying, after all that grief from the crowd, to see we'd gotten through to that one in a hundred." — Jon Ginoli of Pansy Division "After a summer playing to giant Lollapalooza and Woodstock audiences, Berkeley punk upstarts Green Day made a triumphant local return at the comparatively small Palladium, perhaps a bit road-weary but just as rowdy as ever. Short and simple, Green Day’s nearly hour long set (average by punk standards) packed an almost non-stop wallop as the band charged through such hits as psycho-rave Basket Case, mope-ish Longview and show closer She, a melodic ditty that’s as close to a love song as Green Day gets. Singer/guitarist Billie Joe, a 22-year-old flurry of power-chord Stratocaster moves and vocal howls, is the prototypical punk frontman, racing about the stage, arms beating the air, cheering on the moshing throng in front of the stage. Bassist Mike Dirnt (yet another Sid Vicious-styled punk bass player) and spastic drummer Tre Cool make for a solid if loose rhythm section. Aside from a lunk-head country-punk number and a sloppy Operation Ivy cover, the show was prime-form Green Day. Lots of attitude, very little posing and a great deal of fun." — Variety More photos: 33 years ago (2 November 1991), Green Day played JUZ Dampfmühle in Verden, Germany. More photos:4 points
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It's been a week and Lowlife lives rent free in my head!4 points
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You're more excited than me then!lo! I mean what are the chances of getting nearish the front with a decent view?😮💨 You're just not selling it to me tbh...I mean saying that, I'm still planning on going just for GD! A girl has take whatever GD breadcrumbs she can get!🤪 The thing is if GD wanted to play other festivals/places they haven't been, or to think outside the box for venues I could think of loads of places. All they need to do is look at a Google map of the UK! They could have played in Cardiff, or smaller shows like the forest live shows, or at racecourses (I mean it's good enough for Justin Timberlake!🤭) I know it all come down to money and scale of show at the end of the day, but still...just one ginormous festival. Oh well. Maybe next tour cycle, in however many years.🤞😁3 points
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I love this post of Billie fangirling a bit "They played the album in its entirety and then a bunch of hits!" Yes Billie, that's how we feel too3 points
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@solongfromthestars we love your posts but completely understand what a huge undertaking this is, please don’t feel bad if you have to give it up.2 points
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I'm just tired of all the festivals and huge shows with three or four support bands (or worse for festivals).2 points
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The Homecoming demo made me want to listen to Green Day’s cover of A Quick One While He’s Away, so I ended up watching a couple of videos of them playing it live and watched The Who play it live on rock and roll circus. After the “Dang, dang, dang…” part, I realize they sing “cello, cello, cello…” and I read that it’s because they wanted to have a cello in this part of the song but the studio couldn’t afford it. That makes me like it so much more! It probably adds more to the song than a cello would’ve. I can also see how Keith moon was a big influence on Tre. I’ve never really watched the who play live before.2 points
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I was looking over the restored videos to see if there was any weirdness to them. The animated intro to Holiday stuck out to me: The presence of frame blending made me wonder if it was a botched side effect of the restoration, but rest assured, it was indeed always like this. A pattern with these videos is that you may notice certain flaws that weren't present before. I'm glad they didn't try to fix it or anything, just keep it as is. If I had to guess, I'd say the frame blending is from the frame rate of the animation being different from the rest of the video.2 points
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You’re right, it could have been the original six songs they said they first recorded in London2 points
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Put Wake Me Up When September Ends on my speakers, turned the volume up hella loud and laid on the floor, just listening. Almost feels like prayer.2 points
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Watching Heart Like A hand Grenade for the first time... its interesting 😅 John Roecker certainly made some directorial *choices*2 points
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Totally! This is a great project @solongfromthestars and I love reading your posts, and the fact that it also opens the floor for other people to tell their stories from a show they experienced. But indeed we know it's a huge amount of work and time you put into this, so don't feel pressured into finishing it.1 point
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Agreed. And thanks @solongfromthestars for the link to the GDA site, it looks amazing. Hope they sort the technical issues for you soon. You are a star ✨1 point
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Retro Peter IS credited as engineer on governator and MM2020. Maybe Arnold S candidacy was anounced officialy on that date, but the possibility was know time before.1 point
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I'm an idiot, I completely forgot about when Arnold actually announced his candidacy and when he became governor despite the fact that Iived through it and was a California resident. However.... Governator does have the exact same credits as the AI demos. I think we've found where it fits in with the timeline and I think it would make sense for it to be recorded among that batch of songs. The Know Your Enemy physical singles all say "Produced by Green Day, Engineered by Chris Dugan" for Lights Out. Same for Hearts Collide. I do have a Japanese edition of 21CBD, I'll see what my copy says.1 point
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It’s okay, I found it yesterday morning during the walk! But thank you! Also surprised I didn’t bump into him yesterday given he’s in London again 😂1 point
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Those tracks have the same credits as the rest of the album. I don't see any reason to think they came from their own session, other than to make Governator fit the timeline. Obviously Mike could come out and say "I intended Governator for The Network" but at this point speculation is baseless, since it wasn't recorded for the main album and we have to invent a hypothetical second session to make it work.1 point
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oooor it could have been recorded in the same session as Hammer Of The Gods and Teenagers from Mars, but we may never know... side note: isn't it strange how people think Shoplifter is tied into AI's story despite the fact that "Jimmy caught stealing" makes no sense grammatically? I mean there is also the fact that the producer credits (which have been helpful in the past, such as confirming Rotting as an insomniac holdover, and Lights Out+ possibly Hearts Collide being recorded around C&V/AI times) for Shoplifter lining up with TMTS1 point
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Arnold Schwarzenegger announced he was running for governor Aug 6, 2003. MM2020 was already listed on adelaide's website on Aug 1, though not available to buy until Sep 30. MM2020 was certainly already being mixed and mastered if not fully completed. It probably sounds like The Network because the same people wrote it at around the same time.1 point
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Maybe those 6 songs were rewritten, beefed up and were going to be the 1972 EP, which was going to be mostly punk-rock bangers. Look Ma, Fancy Sauce, Coma City, Living in the 20s, Dilemma, Saviors, 1981 and Corvette Summer.1 point
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im guessing that Look Ma is also one of them and Dilemma is not one of them (and Dilemma is also probably gonna stay on the setlist going forward while Look Ma is probably gonna get dropped)1 point
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That’s right I forgot about OEB. That definitely came from FOAM because it was recorded or leaked around late 20201 point
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So according to a new interview in Music Connection, those seven extra songs from FOAM ended up on Saviors https://www.musicconnection.com/green-day-american-saviors/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1VPiOda1skdxhyjJzMYycP9-1OCGE0d1aFOIDpHf_I4Sf6mY3EnR8cMoE_aem_TfmCM_s5iKC_7GPSWFZJcg Quote: “But it mustn’t be forgotten that Green Day is promoting the Saviors album, a typically brilliant slab of work that is snotty, zany, and important in equal measure. Armstrong has said that there are seven songs on this record that didn’t make it onto the last one, the Butch Walker-produced Father of All Motherfuckers, making it all the more startling that this album is so good, that it flows so beautifully.” I remember they said TADIKM was from those sessions and they added it later. What do we think were the other six? And how on earth could those FOAM songs be so underwritten and mid and these Saviors songs are great? They don’t sound like they came from the same time period at all, unless he completely rewrote them later and made them all better1 point
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I don't know if how much it's been mentioned, but the Blu-ray is likely a large part of the cost, and probably why they opted not to include another disc of music. A standalone 2x Blu-ray release like that would probably retail around $30. Minus that, it comes out to about the cost of the previous boxsets per disc.1 point
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I mentioned this days ago lol it also has similarities to the unforgiven he did with the go gos. also I don't think anyone has mentioned that one of Mike's parts in homecoming sounds like his part in american eulogy1 point
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The pre-chorus of Lowlife has been bothering me because of its familiarity, and it's just occured to me why... Sounds very similar to the bridge from that song BJA did with with Penelope Houston - The Angel and the Jerk. 0:42 here for the uninitiated (of course you are)1 point
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Good grief. Today the mail person came to deliver the boxset and instead of trying to reach me through the intercom, they just left a notice they had come and for me to go the post office to pick up the parcel on MONDAY (because tomorrow is a holiday, and why even bother on Saturday). They could have left this on Monday this week and I could have picked it up by Tuesday.😭 And it would have been so perfect to get it today precisely because it's a long weekend, I could have consumed the whole thing over these 3 days. Oh well, I'll go continue listening to Black Eyeliner.1 point
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Misery has been one of my favorite Green Day songs since the first time I heard it. It so clearly influenced one of my other favorite GD songs, Viva La Gloria (Little Girl). Both so underrated!1 point
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American Idiot and Basket Case also played! Sum 41 have good taste. You know when some people seem more excited about Bohemian Rhapsody than Green Day? I was that person when American Idiot started. 😂 Regret to report that All the Time didn't win though... people sang much louder to Misery Business and All the Small Things. Anyway, won't go on about it since it's not the right thread, but Sum 41 were amazing. I got the kind of bittersweet closure that people described on the Saviors Tour.1 point
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I'm at a Sum 41 show and All the Time just played as part of the pre show playlist... and people were singing along! Doesn't surprise me that a Nimrod song is on the playlist because I know Deryck loves Nimrod, but I'm amazed people were singing. Haven't heard them singing anything else.1 point
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But overall, your 1972 thread was thoroughly enjoyable to be involved in. Surprising, horrific even, and downright depressing sometimes. Full of intrigue, like the leaked 'One Eyed Bastard' for example. Wouldn't have missed it for the world. And after all, worth the wait for Saviors arriving at last. One of GD's best ever albums imho. So, thank you for starting the thread. When's the next one?😁1 point
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There’s a station in Austin that I’m told plays Dilemma in heavy rotation1 point
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One of the big Chicago alt radio stations has been consistently playing both Dilemma and Bobby Sox nowadays.1 point
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I'm not saying anyone who disagrees with my personal opinions is a fascist. What I am saying is that there is one major political party in the US headed by a fascist, Billie was expressing support for the party not headed by a fascist, Brit was giving him shit for that, and I think that was dumb to do she shouldn't have. When you're part of a family of a band whose key principles are openness and inclusion, maybe don't air your catfights with the frontman in public? I also didn't say she doesn't have the right to have shitty opinions, I did say I've lost respect for her because of her bad takes. I don't have to respect her just because of who she happens to be married to. Anyway, I'm done. If you really want to we can continue this in DMs.1 point
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It‘s October 1st!!! Can’t believe it‘s been 1 year since we got this teaser!!!1 point
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Going to go ahead and call it. Album 15 is probably coming in April of 2027.1 point
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They have every show pro shot actually. At least since the 90s I believe. When they signed to a major label. They’re recorded and stored for archival reasons. For documentaries and live home releases, and special releases such as this one… etc. So it’s not a surprise they have the entire Warfield show. In fact, if you find photos from that gig, you’ll notice there were plenty of cameras recording them off stage. Footage was bound to be released eventually. If there was ever a Green Day gig that you wonder about being recorded, chances are pro shot footage exists. Now whether they choose to ever release it, depends on them and whatever management wants. Sometimes pro shot footage or audio is leaked by someone on the crew who intercepted it at the mixing table. Either a roadie or a tech.0 points