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A little quick break-down, based on New Zealand snippets on Qobuz: American Idiot (Alternate version) = Earlier version of the song with different lyrics. (the unreleased song "Idiot" on Nimrod springs to mind, could there be a connection?) Homecoming = New parts we haven't heard before Everyone's Breaking Down = Whole song based off the "here the come marching down the street" (by favorite, by the way) part in Homecoming. Just Another Year = A whole song based on what is now the accapella intro in Homecoming. Lowlife = A new song where verses seems to be what later became the "Dearly Beloved" part in Jesus of Suburbia. Potentielly with a very different feel though as it's a entirely different drum beat and tempo. I know other people here have heard the full songs, but I thought I could create a post like this so we have the details in a more condensed form

I can't believe it's already been 1 year since the single was released, especially after 3 years of endless 1972 speculation leading up to this!!!!!!!!!

The music videos for AI, JoS, and WMUWSE were all re-scanned in native 4K!

Arrr 🏴‍☠️⚓️😔

On this day last year (24 October 2023), The American Dream is Killing Me was released and accompanied by a music video. 8 years ago (24 October 2016), Green Day played the Fillmore in Detroit, MI on the Revolution Radio club tour. More photos: 14 years ago (24 October 2010), Green Day played in Santiago, Chile on the 21st Century Breakdown Tour. More photos: 15 years ago (24 October 2009), Green Day played a second night at the O2 Arena in London, England on the 21st Century Breakdown Tour. More photos: 20 years ago (24 October 2004), Green Day played Louisville Gardens in Louisville, KY on the American Idiot Tour. 32 years ago (24 October 1992), Green Day played the Phoenix Theatre in Petaluma, CA on the Kerplunk Tour.

This is not just any election though. This election will decide whether we save our democracy or elect a fascist president. I have absolutely no problem with anyone celebrity or not, telling people to vote for the only anti-fascist candidate on the ballot. Preach Billie! 💚

I really don't see the difference in saying he's voting for her and good things about her etc and that people should vote, and saying you should vote for her. It's the same message. Everyone knows when someone supports a candidate and is anti the other candidate that means they think you should vote for their candidate. I don't get why people don't like when they say it, why pretend? They've been heavily promoting registering to vote/using your vote, and they've been speaking out heavily against Trump. The logical conclusion is they think people should vote for Kamala Harris rather than voting for Trump or allowing Trump to win by not voting or wasting their vote on a candidate that can't beat him at a time where real harm will be done by him winning, regardless if they literally say it or not.

These pics from Billie's time in the musical are awesome

I listened to it for the 2nd time, it's a fun album that I will definitely listen to more. I feel like the Billie songs here are Scum of the Earth, Nothing Ever Happens, the chorus of Draw It In gave Billie vibes, Hola Canada! and Trash TV. Could feel some of that sweet BJ DNA in the melodies. Reminded me of Saviors and The Longshot, those songs.

Had to watch this after your post, Courtney was hilarious about Billie, she was leaning over the desk, waving her arms and saying “OMG you guys, he looks like he eats virgins for breakfast… 😂 she also said she didn’t believe Billie Joe would scream at someone (one of the answer options) “he’s too well tempered”

September 2002 was the 20th anniversary of his Dad’s passing so the whole “twenty years has gone so fast” thing might have been what inspired him to finally write a song about it. He probably didn’t worry about what he was going to do with it, he just had to write it. I recall HLAHG when he said “This song is kicking my ass” and Mike replied “It’s about time you wrote this one”

Yeah this convinces me I was at least half correct with my C&V theory, and that they're basically the same album C&V and AI, because as said they basically borrowed a few parts from that album too despite starting from scratch. I'm convinced as well considering they seem to at least, have concepted the story and characters during the process of writing for AI that the 5 demo track we got was from cigarettes and valentines era of the sessions because 1. there's no references to any AI characters or themes in those songs 2. they are very early versions 3. like you said, the novacaine seems to be faster like the "Faster version" they were talking about and 4th extra point, they also bring up radio baghdad in one of those paragraphs, which is also on the cd also in general they sound like very early demos compared to the AI ones we have, maybe explaining why the AI versions are more polished just realised my last point is the same as the 2nd but yeah lol

As mentioned above: Everyone's Breaking Down is a complete song that is based off the music and beat/tempo of the "here they come marching down the street" - I love it. Just Another Year is a complete song that builds from the very first verse of Homecoming "My heart is beating from me I am standing all alone Please call me only if you are coming home JUST (instead of waste) another year flies by" Lowlife is a complete song framed with the "Dearly Beloved" part from JOS. Hope that helps, It might help to think of them as three complete or 'new songs' with only pieces of them incorporated in to JOS and Homecoming.

I miss the times where the albums gets leaked a week or months before the actual release. Sad pirate noise

Nimrod and Warning are quite highly rated by serious Green Day fans. They don't get as much love outside the fanbase though. The trilogy is their most underrated work in my opinion. That's also more popular on GDC these days, but people everywhere else still hate it, and it gets less love from Mike and Tre than any of their other work. Are there some duds? Yeah (such as Carpe Diem and Little Boy Named No Thanks), but some of Billie's best love songs are on there. Fell For You and Angel Blue perfectly capture the feeling of knowing you're falling for someone you shouldn't. Oh Love conveys the frustration of that person holding back. Fuck Time and Stop When the Red Lights Flash are like two fanfics: one is trashy but fun and the other is actually tasteful and of the same quality as any professionally published work. Wild One is a glorious celebration of giving in to a love that might kill you, but it's worth it. Stray Heart is a bop. Brutal Love is an absolute masterpiece. Missing You is a fun and cute song that does what it's supposed to do. 8th Avenue Serenade is my favourite Green Day song. I'm biased because my first love also serenaded me on 8th Avenue, but it's such a beautiful, intimate portrayal of what a simple place can come to mean to people who are in love, and it perfectly conveys being scared to hope that something might come of it even though you already know you're hoping it will. And then there are the non-love songs like Rusty James and Lazy Bones that are also very high quality. Thank you for coming to my Regular Trilogy 4 Lyf Session. Next episode probably coming the next time I've had as little sleep as I have recently. RevRad is also seriously underrated. 21st Century Breakdown does get some love from fans now, but not enough considering what a masterpiece it is. 8th Avenue Serenade is my favourite Green Day song, but 21st Century Breakdown is my favourite album. If only it could get an anniversary tour... I know it won't and why, but if only.

Happy one year! Favorite single and video from Saviors 🩷🧟‍♂️

In the booklet they talk about cigarettes and valentines being a power pop record and thats evident in these demos, American idiot is definitely more alternative rock, they obviously made a point to make american idiot a record that had a harder edge, probably helped by the fact that they had the narrative of the many failings george bush presidency and Iraq. This new found drive and focus in the state of pop culture and politics in 2004 bled into the music and their process. This drive and energy shown by the group was a key driving factor in why American idiot had the impact it had and the staying power it continues to have both musically and culturally even in 2024. Also American Idiot itself prides itself on the ethos of punk which Billie Joe makes point of detailing what Punk is about in the booklet. Very Interesting and supports the fact that American Idiot well and truly gave a Green Day a second wind and cemented themselves as more than a legacy pop punk act,

*SPOILERS* - American Idiot (Alt. Version) completely different lyrics and a new short, completely different bridge, which was a nice surprise - Novacaine and Whatsername are the same ones from the demo disc that leaked a week or two ago, just a better mix. - Clusterbomb is Letterbomb with Warning production, slightly faster with in your face intro. I love it - Homecoming is when the new stuff starts coming in - a lot of different short songs, parts, lyrics, a more obvious influence of A Quick One by The Who, even a hardcore punk element in Tre's song part. Overall I love it - Everyone’s Breaking Down and Just Another Year are original songs of which core parts were later on used in Homecoming (the intro and part after Rock n Roll Girlfriend) - Lowlife definitely heavily influenced ¡Viva la Gloria! and later on Strange Days Are Here To Stay. It's really nice Sadly, there's no completely new or unheard songs that don't have elements of already released songs, but overall this is still absolutely awesome to hear. I love this band.

Excited to hear some of those “newer” songs but sad there are no genuine unheard b-sides or goodies like that. Hopefully someone uploads the documentary and I avoided a $70 purchase for nothing lol.

Not me, ducking under fire, as I look at this cover poster hanging on my wall. 😂

Anyone else thinks that "Sleepyhead" could have developed into Novacaine? An earlier, albeit faster, version of it? If you think of it, "sleepyhead" would be a fitting description of the potential effects of Novocaine, judging by whats written about it: If so, it (obviously) also makes perfect sense that it's not on the B-side disc Roecker posted, as the song made it unto the final album under the name Novacaine. There's no way to know if the song lengths would even be remotely close though, since Sleepheads is just mentioned by name, no other details, in that Warning behind-the-scenes footage. Perhaps we get to know sometime in the future.

It's just the fact they're already so vocally anti Trump and pro using your vote. Like, it's pretty clear that means they think people should vote for the other candidate. It's true that we already know the reasons why. I think encouraging people to vote is a good thing and when it's already so clear which candidate he supports adding vote for Kamala doesn't change anything about his message. I think he did a little smile because he knows it's cheeky to say it though lol

Check this out, so they still go with the "tapes mysteriously disappearing" thing which atp I think it's obvious that we know they didn't (for people who were still doubting) also confirmed that a faster version of novacaine was recorded for C&V, and maybe im misreading but extraordinary girl too? very interesting

This is why I need to stay away from here few hours before it's time or I will spoiler myself. I will listen to Green Day albums non stop the last few hours to keep myself busy, as I don't trust my dumbass self

100% Agree!! Actually, Nimrod and Warning are my two favorite GD albums ever. They are good valued albums among, let's say in this way... "non-casual fans". I agree also the trilogy is underrated, especially ¡DOS! I know trilogy has high and lows, but for me ¡DOS! is a solid album (I just don't like... AMY. I don't feel it as a good closer song for that album).

From Billie's Instagram story

See I’m in the UK and could’ve brought it from elsewhere but I wanted the exclusive items from the Green Day store because this album is my favourite album of all time and it also inspired me to get into music and play guitar etc etc. The UK shipping rates aren’t that bad I don’t think but they are bad when compared to level of service of getting the items on time. I don’t think it’s the delivery companies that are the problem it’s in fact the Warner store operators and works that couldn’t hit water if they fell out of a boat. Useless and unprofessional and unorganised in my opinion and experience I’ve had with them. the scratched vinyl you got sounds dreadful, I would’ve been the same as you and hounded them for a refund as that’s not good enough. But since talking to you guys in here about them and twitter and Reddit, Not one person has had a good experience with them I have found. Says a lot that! I will keep you posted and tell you what year it arrives at this rate 😂 🤦‍♂️

I only order at the official store if they have exclusive stuff (store-only vinyl variants, etc.) and this time I "had" to order the AI vinyl package, just because there's something extra included that's not in the other regular boxes (sigh). Don't become collectors, kids - haha Around 2013-2014 I ordered some t-shirts from an official GD store and there was some weird stuff sown into the t-shirt and I was able to see it clearly and I felt it when I wore it and I contacted the store and sent them pictures and they did not budge and told me that it was no production mishap and basically told me that it's bad luck for me and they did not offer anything in return - no refund, no sorry, nothing. From that day on I decided not to buy t-shirts from official GD stores and I think I barely bought new GD t-shirts since. Mostly also because I never LOVED any print that much to actually buy it. Recently the designs are getting better, but meh...not for me from the official stores. I have my standards (waves a cane in the air at all the young kids)

I feel Insomniac and Warning are hugely under appreciated. They are both such great albums (better than Dookie I would argue). I also think RevRad doesn't get as much love as it deserves.

Yeah, they are awful. My worst experience with them was with the No Fun Mondays vinyl, which got shipped two MONTHS after the release date 😒

No caption "Mr Billie Joe Armstrong 2012"

Novacaine guitars seem to be the ones used on the final version actually, they sound exactly the same. the little guitar intro in American Idiot too in the second verse of Lowlife we can hear what became the guitar solo from Letterbomb too

I know I'm late but I got such a reality check seeing you post that this was a year ago, I remember the 1972 discussion thread like it was yesterday checking to see pages of random stuff everyday hoping to see SOME news. lmao This too 😭

I’ve bought too much of the merch. Excited for when the CD bundle ships but I gotta say that I put on the American Idiot cardigan today for the first time and this thing is so soft and comfy. I’m honestly impressed.

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is having a special Green Day Fan Day on November 1st. If you missed seeing the Holiday car it will be there https://rockhall.com/event/green-day-fan-day/

I read the booklet interview and they mentioned that WMUWSE was written late 2002 and they didn't know what to do with it after they started over. Idk if they meant it got written for it or if it got written awkwardly in between, but I think they were likely working on C&V in late 2002 still though: It pretty much confirmed that American Idiot, later parts of JOS, Holiday, Boulevard, Whatsername, Are We The Waiting and some of the Homecoming parts were written with the concept in mind. Also seems like Favourite Son was written for AI.

Lowlife is so fking good

I'm assuming everyone who wants to can listen to the preview/snippers on New Zealand Itunes/Apple store, considering I'm doing so and I live in Sweden. https://music.apple.com/nz/album/american-idiot-20th-anniversary-deluxe-edition/1761687864 (there are obvious similarities between Lowlife and Strange Days Are Here to Stay, (although the former is much better). Man for me it feels like jackpot to get two fully fledged, Warning-esque sounding songs revolving around my favourite parts of Jesus of Suburbia (Dearly Beloved) and Homecoming (Here they come marching...). Aside from 100% never-before-heard songs it's a best case scenario for me personally. Superb stuff. I will love these songs to death. 🥰

Thanks... More than 30 minutes listened and you was the only one that report the important thing for us than can't hear It now

Billie is right. Songs from homecoming are from cigarettes and valentines

Shes a rebel is super cool! I almost like it more than the final song from an instrumental perspective Its also worth noting - I am up to Radio Baghdad and can confirm these are not the same demos as the 5 reddit demos.

11 hours for Norway, but less than 30 minutes thanks to VPN🥳

Kerplunk IS ignored by the band and IS the album with better songs... No anniversary edition or something ... I would love a record of live versions of kerplunk songs played in modern times (private ale, words i might have ate, 80, razorbacks were played in 2009-2016 era and no official released)

Semi related, but have just noticed that some of the American Idiot music videos have been upgraded to 4K, those being American Idiot, WMUWSE, and Jesus of Suburbia but only the long version, not the short one. Maybe it's progressively being added to all, or just those. The American Idiot one looks so bright now, it's one of the most interesting ones imo Oh and also, the American Idiot video is uncensored too which is a nice touch

I also have nothing against sitting in line all day and taking time of from work. I usually travel for shows anyways so I need more than one day of. If there weren't VIP tickets I would have been queing for both Amsterdam and Vienna. Some of the other bands I listen to sell VIP tickets for around 85 euros. It includes early entry, you can chose a couple of merch items and you get a signet laminate or something. One of the bands also include m&g and an acoustic preformance. I have gotten those VIP tickets several times and for me it's more worth the price. Green Day's tickets are extremely overpriced in my opinion. But if I had an unlimited amount of money, I would have gotten them for all the shows for sure. As long as they're offering it people will buy it. Hope you have fun queuing and fingers crossed for front row. 😊

I'm sorry to hear that. I didn't have any trouble with this sale but with ticketmaster you never know. 🙈 Everything takes so much planning and logistics. We need the rest of the dates. I love having front row too 😂 In general I don't have anything against VIP tickets but these are too expensive for me.

Golden circle in Amsterdam and front of stage (I guess that's the same) in Vienna. 🥳❤️ You should try again. Maybe try another device and browser? I'm European and have been kicked out of several tickets sales on ticketmaster before.

Got my tickets for Vienna and Amsterdam 🥳

Got two tickets for Vienna! Wohoo really need a third ticket though and the front of stage ones aren’t available on the website anymore will keep refreshing

From Billie's Instagram story