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Hi everyone! Man it's been a looong while since my last post. I hadn't been listening to Green Day too much for the past, what? 10 years? But these past couple of days I was feeling frustrated with my life and listening to love pop songs just wouldn't cut it. I wanted to RIOT! So I instantly remembered Green Day and felt like listening to some Insomniac and Dookie to let it all out. After a while I really wanted to listen to the newer stuff (post Revolution Radio) to find out if they were still as good as I remembered and BOY was I pleased! I absolutely love this album!! Personal favorites are TADIKM, Bobby Sox, Goodnight Adeline, Corvette Summer, Suzie Chapstick, LIT20s. As a gay fan, I was elated to hear the lyrics to Bobby Sox for the first time . My only gripe with Saviors is that, at certain times, some of the vocal melodies feel a bit forced (i. e. the final inflection on the phrase "Hit me with power chords" on Corvette Summer). It's like I'm singing along and Billie suddently... overcomplicates the melody? Not sure if I'm getting my point accross here. Anyway, I've been listening to Green Day non-stop the whole week and I'm ecstatic to be back. It feels like finding a part of myself that was long lost. It feels like home. P.S. I'm giving myself a break because I don't want to burn myself out with this record. But I hope I can do my little review with my scores for each song in the coming days.

Let’s just bask in the beauty of Saviors.

This was really interesting and insightful. I loved the style of it where you only hear Billie/Rob speak (without the interviewer's questions/prompts), very cool. Wish there could be one for every song!

I wonder why he would leave if he loves them so much. Was it just a limited ten year endorsement contract and they got outbid by another drum company?

Tbh anything is better than American idiot at this point, it's like kicking a dead horse over and over again. I want them to play something so special and so unexpected. I'd love to hear American dream again live.

I like no.22, my favorite song.

Yeah, that album is good and a few other singles were okay, but man I tortured myself trying to listen to all their albums. One of the worst color bands for sure.

They're gonna record album 15 in Canada. A canpop album. Ever since Tim Hortons died it hasn't been the same Maple Syrup going crazy, Gretzky on the Fentanyl now. Ice hockey are here to stay

It'll be streamed here starting at 6:30 pacific time. https://www.twitch.tv/eamaddennfl

The American Dream Is Killing Me - 11,313,733 (+69k) Look Ma, No Brains! - 7,266,131 (+61k) Bobby Sox - 4,124,926 (+81k) One Eyed Bastard - 6,400,493 (+83k) Dilemma - 8,176,544 (+87k) 1981 - 2,268,899 (+46k) Goodnight Adeline - 2,054,889 (+40k) Coma City - 1,727,939 (+31k) Corvette Summer - 1,766,433 (+33k) Suzie Chapstick - 1,876,022 (+39k) Strange Days Are Here to Stay - 1,693,225 (+32k) Living in the '20s - 1,686,226 (+36k) Father to a Son - 1,394,189 (+25k) Saviors - 1,377,982 (+27k) Fancy Sauce - 1,329,633 (+26k) TOTAL - 54,457,264 (+716,223)

I can't believe they've completely ditched Rusty James and 8th Avenue Serenade from Green Day and other side project related things! They're pretty much harmless compared to Lazy Bones and Makeout Party and are genuinely great tunes. I'm not holding hope for either of tracks getting attention for potential Trilogy reissue, but never say never and I'd love to see some Rusty James/8th Avenue Serenade love from the band itself

I think in the same way as you. If I can afford something, I buy it. I would love to get a Green/Orange Walking Contradiction Promo, but I won't pay 200 bucks for that. Even I remember a guy who posted RevRad Instrumental on ebay for 1000 dollars, and I thought: "that's not for me". There are many promo that look bootlegish. On discogs you can check them.

I noticed that too! I was looking at your list and I thought you know what they're right about those Uno and Tre songs! Makeout Party is pretty solid, but man, do I love Lazy Bones. It's one of those songs where it comes on and I have to stop and listen to it. No skipping past that one.

I commend anyone aiming to get all Green Day releases. I consider myself a collector on a budget, so there are some things I know I'll never own. I don't have cash to splash on rare releases or singles from other countries and that's fine with me. If I see them out in the wild for a price I can afford, hell yeah I'll get it. But I try to focus on stuff I can afford, like studio albums, singles, magazines, and weird promo items.

@That Dude I hear no.22 regularly 😂😂

I've got a list of Green Day songs that I'm trying to confirm to be fake. Have you guys ever heard even a single note of the following songs? 1. A Boy Named Tre Cool 2. Don’t Look Away 3. Dream 4. F!@# You 5. Fell For Snoo 6. Can’t Make Love 7. I’ll Make You Surrender (Not the trilogy song) 8. I’m a Loser 9. Jezebel (not the trilogy song) 10. Let’s Party 11. Miss July 12. Mystery Girl (not the trilogy song) 13. Rossini Finale 14. Slayer Reprise 15. Take Away My Heart 16. Taringa! 17. Too Young To Die (not Too Young from the American Idiot sessions or Too Dumb to Die) 18. Trippin With Tre (Piano and drum solo) 19. Walk Away (Not the Tre song OR the Cigerretes and Valentines song) 20. We’re 21. What You Say 22. Why Blink-182 Will Never Be As Good As Green Day 23. With The Funky Rebels 24. You Really Got a Hold On Me 25. You’re Gonna Lose That Girl

From Billie's Instagram story (photo Samid Rasin)

Just heard Billie's version of I Think We're Alone now at the grocery store. I've heard GD played at the grocery store before, but this was a surprise. I almost forgot my tomatoes.

There would have definitely been a career. Keep in mind Kerplunk is one of the most successful independent records ever. But yes all that luck lined up for them and eventually shot them into super stardom.

My vinyl finally arrived!!! and boy does it sound glorious. Rob's production is just so so good.

The other day I listened to American Idiot from start to finish, which I haven't done in a long time. What an amazing album. Of course I know it's a good album, but something about listening to it again really struck me. The songs are damn near perfect. The performances are out of this world. It's absolutely fantastic. For a long time I could never decided if Dookie or AI was my favorite GD album and after that playthrough, it's definitely AI. I fell in love with it all over again! I still remember when I first got a copy of the album. My mom took me to Circuit City and I picked up two CDs: AI and Maroon 5's Songs about Jane. Out of the two, I never would've guessed that I would continue to follow Green Day 20 years later.

I'm reading the biography The True Lives of My Chemical Romance right now and they mention Green Day couple of times and say really nice things about them (also while they toured together in 2005). And since Rob Cavallo produced The Black Parade and Danger Days there are also some very interesting insights about the recording process with him. Can totally recommend the book

Up until 2010/2011 I used to collect everything I could find but these days I'd rather go to more shows. Sometimes I buy odd stuff that I see and other times I go for months thinking I'm not going to collect any more

I revisited FOAM last night and it's definitely a weak album. Don't get me wrong, I still like it, but after hearing the Saviors singles it's so apparent how weak the singles are for FOAM. They're just not the same quality. The album is fun, but there's little staying power. Even as a FOAM defender, it's an album I easily forget about until one of the song randomly pops up on shuffle. There are still some bangers on there, but a lot of the songs feel incomplete, which is a shame. Graffitia seems like the most realized song, while the others are ideas that they couldn't fully get off the ground. But I still have fond memories of the FOAM era. I'll never forget being at work when Father Of All single dropped and seeing the mass reaction come in on GDC. It was a lot of "OH NO! IT"S BAD!!" Promotion was definitely weird (I still blame Crush) but we got some fun performances. I really liked their performance at the video game awards, as random as it was. I was watching it in a gamer's livestream and there were like two of us in chat that were psyched for Green Day. Everyone else was confused as to why they were there. And if it wasn't for FOAM who knows if we ever would've heard from The Network again. Clearly they saw Green Day floundering and felt it was their chance put the band in their place. FOAM is definitely weird. Everything surrounding it is bizarre, but I still had fun and I like that I can still enjoy the album while recognizing its faults more clearly.

"This episode has some explicit language including a mention of drug use." Wouldn't that be all interviews with rock stars?

I liked it then and still like it. Would I put it in the top half of their discography? No, but it's still enjoyable. Top tracks for me are TTMAC (which I will always want one of Billie's bands to play live), IWATT, Graffitia, and Oh Yeah.

I’ve just revisited this album a couple of weeks ago, listening to all of it during my drive home from work, and I have to say I appreciate the more experimental parts of it, like the extra effects they added to the sound of the instruments. A couple examples of this being the drum fill in “Meet Me On the Roof” before the instrumental break and the big bass slide in “Junkies on a high”. There’s also a nice instrumental swell going on before one of the choruses in “I was a Teenage Teenager”, a song that most people here seem to loathe. This reaction actually took me by surprise because this was an instant favorite for me after my first listens of the album. It’s the first song that gave strong hints of older Green Day (it reminded me of “Ha Ha You’re Dead!” in particular, probably because of the vocals having the “crowd sing-along” effect going on). The harmonies during the last chorus make it one of the best parts of the album. I’ve also come to really appreciate the songs where the band, and especially Billie Joe, don’t sound like they’re easily recognizable. Hearing them talk about this in interviews has given me a better perspective on what they were going for and why. Songs like “Father of All” benefited from this. The drums are also punchier than ever on this track, making it truly unique. One track I hated when it came out was “Fire, Ready, Aim!” because it sounded like it was unfinished. I wanted the BIG GREEN DAY SOUND. But they were trying to make songs that were independent of that idea, trudging into the unknown. They were truly embracing that “new band” mindset, opening themselves to new ways of making songs. This song sounded so stripped down because that’s exactly what they wanted to go for, and I appreciate that a bit more now. Overall, this album has grown on me. It might have taken a “return to form” album like ‘Saviors’ to make me more appreciative of their experimental side, but I’m glad I have this new perspective on the album now. Songs like “Oh Yeah!” and “Junkies on a High” are truly unique entries into their catalogue and mix things up in the same way that outliers like “Kill the Dj” and “Nightlife” did on the trilogy. I even understand the album cover now, even though I still consider it a terrible cover overall lol. Albums like this are what keep Green Day fresh and vital and I would be completely fine with them continuing the trend of toggling back and forth between “experimental” and “return to form” albums. The “experimental” ones make me appreciate the “return to form” ones even more and vice versa. Here’s my current favorites from this album: 1. Junkies on a High 2. Stab You in the Heart 3. Oh Yeah! 4. Take the Money and Crawl 5. I Was a Teenage Teenager

Every day I wake up with a different song from album in my head, and I love it

I think the production & lyrics on its own is enough to have Saviors match RevRad's quality. But I think the quality of the songs are also stronger on Saviors too. The guitars, drums & bass are just better on Saviors imo. I think RevRad is a light 8 whereas Saviors is either a strong 8 or light 9 out of 10 personally. The only thing I can give RevRad over Saviors is that you can argue that the tracks on RevRad are more original while some Saviors songs could be considered rip offs of previous songs. But that said, RevRad is also still very much inspired by AI/21CB era songs, even taking certain elements straight from previous songs i.e. Bang Bang using the guitar riff from St. Jimmy. Transitions would be nice on Saviors but it's not some essential thing that's needed on a Green Day album and honestly the lack of multipart tracks doesn't bother me at all. I don't think any of the songs warrant being multi-part and the album would just seem more like a wannabe AI/21CB album if it had multi-part tracks. I don't think RevRad feels more like a "journey" or "story" than Saviors. Like yeah, Forever Now is connected with Somewhere Now and there are multiple mentions of the "radio" but I don't really get anything out of that. Saviors feels more thematically satisfying imo. The title track feels like a sort of conclusion to the themes introduced throughout the album. The political (TADIKM, Coma City, LIT20S, Strange Days), the narrator is looking for somebody to "save" them from the American Dream which is killing them. The personal (Dilemma, Look Ma No Brains etc.), the album deals with issues of addiction, depression/suicide and the narrator could be looking for somebody to save them from themself. The mention of music throughout the album (1981 being the year of MTV's creation, Corvette Summer being about Billie's love of music), Saviors can be interpreted as the saving of rock music, the narrator wishes for another explosion of rock music in the mainstream. Fancy Sauce is still not a track I'm completely sold on personally but it works as an answer to the question posed in the title track "Will somebody save us?" ending the album on a very dark note that "No, nobody's coming to save us"

Yeah but I meant the original

They need to repress the trilogy dammit

I saw Don't Look Away on Cuatro and it's definitely the Forgotten. Any chance you could give some parts of the spreadsheet for a fanmade Westbound Sign cover art?

Brandon Steineckert from Rancid plays SJC. When I saw them live he had a shiny silver set that was just beautiful. I couldn’t stop looking at the drumset.

Oh you know it's Tre on the hockey wad dodods

I didn't think of that! You could be right, thanks for the heads-up.

Isn’t it more likely Too Young To Die was a working title for Sex, Drugs and Violence since that’s a line in the song?

I've had the complete Green Day playlist on shuffle on Spotify and because I drive so far to work, went through every song in a few days. They are all so good!

The title does sure sound like someone at the studio was baked... heh If we get a 6-song EP named 1974 with both Heroin Pops and Kill Whitey I think I will have genies in my room.

Excited for this, hope for some good footage and not just cell phone recordings.

Bumping this thread as it's happening today

What an interesting podcast, far too short though, should have done whole album!

Name a more iconic duo: Green Day enjoyers, and trying to find deeper meaning where there is none. Let's not pretend it isn't one of the worst album artworks ever created. Everything about it just exudes edgy and - dare I say it - boomer energy. THAT poster just summed it all up, really. And with G**y G*****r being in the news this week, I'm reminded that the band thought it was a good idea to sample one of his songs on this album. The publishing details of which I'm almost certain their team didn't know about until it was too late to pull the song from the record. Hence the charity pledge once it was made public. The album was just a series of awful decisions.

It should've been like Stuck with Me: Insomniac woman playing Westbound Sign on Blue and shooting a patient while Billie sings "Strung out on confusion road / 10-minute nervous breakdowns" in the background

My poor virgin ears will be SCANDALIZED.

I discovered this podcast a while back and since then I'd been wishing they featured Green Day. Great episode! Now I still wish Billie appears on Chris Demakes a podcast. His podcast usually focus on bands' big hits but there's an episode (or more) where The Interrupters talk about their (then) new song. I want to hear Billie talk more about Goodnight Adeline or Suzie Chapstick.

I actually think sampling makes the song more unique rather than less unique. It’s something they’ve never done before, but decided to try. Also, I think Junkies on a High is unique for the atmosphere it creates. It doesn’t sound like any Green Day song I’ve heard before it. It may share similar chord structures with other songs, but that’s the case with a lot of songs. It’s really about how they chose to use the chords to make something completely new.

Just heard Bobby Sox, it’s getting airplay on SiriusXM Faction Punk station

"spoken loudly" sounds like secret code for "have you SEEN that GDC website? They're crazy, paradise for locos!" haha.