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Just saw this it went up yesterday I’m surprised no one saw it or posted about it12 points
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Brand new interview with BJA and Rob Cavallo on the Song Exploder podcast, when they talk about the writing and recording of Basket Case. https://songexploder.net/green-day Some pretty rare listens to snippets of the individual stems of the song and some insights I certainly haven't heard before.9 points
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Well after having the album on repeat since it's release, it's time for me to leave my impressions... Saviors is a great return to form for the band after my personal least favourite album from them (FOAM). I don't think I like the songs on Saviors enough to say it's a better album musically than Revrad, however the production more than makes up for it by making even the most average songs on this album sound like absolute masterpieces. From beginning to end this album just feels and sounds incredible to listen to. My personal favourite tracks are TADIKM, LMNB, 1981, Goodnight Adeline, Coma City, Strange Days and Fancy Sauce. The album in general while doesn't really do much new or experimental, it definitely takes inspiration from most of the bands prior albums and as a result you get a lot of stuff that feels like a mix of the best parts of several albums, such as Coma City for example, which to me feels like the child of 21CB and Insomniac. I love that the band are utilizing key changes to make songs feel more ambitious, there's a great variety of instruments, including the return of strings and acoustic guitars playing major parts in songs before bringing in the big guitar sound for powerful and satisfying choruses. Also the bass throughout is incredible and definitely worth paying a lot of attention to, especially on a fairly high end sound system with the bass turned up a little bit more than usual. Mike goes full Dookie mode on some of these songs and as a result, these are probably some of the best and most complex bass tracks he's ever done. This is also a huge step up lyrically from anything that came out after 21CB without question. I am not even normally even a lyrics guy (It's all about the music for me), but the difference between this and the last 5 albums in that regard is absolutely huge. There's also thankfully no fade out songs here. Overall, I'd give the album an 8/10. The only reasons I don't rate it higher is because: It's highly repetitious nature (several songs not only use almost identical chord progressions and melodies from older songs, but even as ones on the very same album). This is in stark contrast to AI and Revrad's songs, all of which feel much more original and fresh compared to the band's prior material. My favourite Green Day albums are the ones that take me on a journey and make me never want to skip past any of the tracks or it just feels wrong. My favourite 3 Green Day albums 21CB (10/10), AI (10/10) and Revrad (9/10) All feel like they have a melodic story to tell from beginning to end, whereas Saviors just feels like a disconnected collection of songs, which is fine, but just not my personal favourite way the band has done albums before. No multipart tracks or seamless transitions between songs, which wouldn't be fair for me to expect on every album from the band, but these kinds of songs usually end up being some of my favourites and the albums they are associated are usually moved up closer to the top of my list. Overall, I am really happy with this album and it's great to see our boys doing so well on the charts again. I bet a lot of kids are finally discovering them, once again proving that Green Day is a band that truly transcends generations and are easily deserving of the title of one of the all time greats. PS: I hope Revrad one day gets an anniversary remaster with production as good as this album has, because if it did, I'd happily bump it up to a 10/10 also.9 points
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Happy 4th, motherfuckers! Father of All Motherfuckers was released four years ago today! I will always appreciate Green Day for pushing boundaries and zigging when everyone expects them to zag. I know this was a polarizing album for the fan base, but I always look for the good in everything and there are some bangers on here. My top 3: - Sugar Youth - Graffitia - Father of All… (you know you love singing that falsetto!) Give this a spin today! You know you’ve got 26 minutes and 12 seconds of free time today! 🦄 🤮 🤘7 points
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C28Zq31vZ-4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== I love the smile on her face when she's with the band🥰5 points
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This was incredible. I’d love to hear this kind of breakdown for all of Dookie. I liked how Rob explained that the reason he signed them was that they each had a distinct personality with their instruments. And it was sheer luck that they came together. They happened to have the same managers as The Muffs, the managers knew Rob because of that connection and that’s how the demo got to him. Even still, Rob was so stressed out working he nearly threw it out! It’s always so fascinating to me how luck plays a role in the timeline we know. One change and there might have been no (or a very different) career for Green Day.4 points
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In Austria Saviors only dropped from #2 to #6 in its seconds week. For comparison: FOAM dropped from #2 to #20 in its seconds week. RevRad dropped from #4 to #7.4 points
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This is what Billie said about the song in an interview with The Sun (a UK paper) https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/25414209/green-day-billie-joe-armstrong-saviors/4 points
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Last 2 days of spotify streams The American Dream Is Killing Me - 11,104,276 (+69k) Look Ma, No Brains! - 7,080,104 (+62k) Bobby Sox - 3,877,513 (+86k) One Eyed Bastard - 6,143,045 (+90k) Dilemma - 7,907,886 (+92k) 1981 - 2,121,848 (+55k) Goodnight Adeline - 1,929,540 (+45k) Coma City - 1,632,344 (+34k) Corvette Summer - 1,664,211 (+36k) Suzie Chapstick - 1,754,139 (+42k) Strange Days Are Here to Stay - 1,593,987 (+34k) Living in the '20s - 1,570,087 (+40k) Father to a Son - 1,316,142 (+30k) Saviors - 1,293,691 (+29k) Fancy Sauce - 1,249,538 (+28k) TOTAL - 52,238,351 (+771,598) The American Dream Is Killing Me - 11,174,697 (+70k) Look Ma, No Brains! - 7,142,471 (+62k) Bobby Sox - 3,962,266 (+85k) One Eyed Bastard - 6,232,332 (+89k) Dilemma - 8,000,212 (+92k) 1981 - 2,174,221 (+52k) Goodnight Adeline - 1,973,455 (+44k) Coma City - 1,665,725 (+33k) Corvette Summer - 1,699,565 (+35k) Suzie Chapstick - 1,796,586 (+42k) Strange Days Are Here to Stay - 1,628,565 (+35k) Living in the '20s - 1,611,278 (+41k) Father to a Son - 1,343,415 (+27k) Saviors - 1,322,721 (+29k) Fancy Sauce - 1,277,907 (+28k) TOTAL - 53,005,416 (+767,065)3 points
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So agree with you @Robbie1039. Not sure I would say I love FOAM but I really like it, I consider it Green Day’s dance album 😂. I totally respect what they were going for and their need to try different stuff and hats off to them for doing it, and doing it so well. My favourite tracks are probably TTMAC, Junkies, SYINH and Sugar Youth, FOA and yes, Fire, Ready, Aim (a great one for the gym playlist) I like Graffitia but don’t see why so many seem to rank it so much higher than the rest of the album.3 points
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Every day I wake up with a different song from album in my head, and I love it3 points
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I think the production & lyrics on its own is enough to have Saviors match RevRad's quality. But I think the quality of the songs are also stronger on Saviors too. The guitars, drums & bass are just better on Saviors imo. I think RevRad is a light 8 whereas Saviors is either a strong 8 or light 9 out of 10 personally. The only thing I can give RevRad over Saviors is that you can argue that the tracks on RevRad are more original while some Saviors songs could be considered rip offs of previous songs. But that said, RevRad is also still very much inspired by AI/21CB era songs, even taking certain elements straight from previous songs i.e. Bang Bang using the guitar riff from St. Jimmy. Transitions would be nice on Saviors but it's not some essential thing that's needed on a Green Day album and honestly the lack of multipart tracks doesn't bother me at all. I don't think any of the songs warrant being multi-part and the album would just seem more like a wannabe AI/21CB album if it had multi-part tracks. I don't think RevRad feels more like a "journey" or "story" than Saviors. Like yeah, Forever Now is connected with Somewhere Now and there are multiple mentions of the "radio" but I don't really get anything out of that. Saviors feels more thematically satisfying imo. The title track feels like a sort of conclusion to the themes introduced throughout the album. The political (TADIKM, Coma City, LIT20S, Strange Days), the narrator is looking for somebody to "save" them from the American Dream which is killing them. The personal (Dilemma, Look Ma No Brains etc.), the album deals with issues of addiction, depression/suicide and the narrator could be looking for somebody to save them from themself. The mention of music throughout the album (1981 being the year of MTV's creation, Corvette Summer being about Billie's love of music), Saviors can be interpreted as the saving of rock music, the narrator wishes for another explosion of rock music in the mainstream. Fancy Sauce is still not a track I'm completely sold on personally but it works as an answer to the question posed in the title track "Will somebody save us?" ending the album on a very dark note that "No, nobody's coming to save us"3 points
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I agree with them reusing old riffs (Strange Days is exactly Basket Case and has to be intentional). I disagree that the songs are disconnected. I feel they flow excellently and have a thematic thread. Also criticizing it for not having multipart songs or songs with seamless transitions seems like an odd criticism. You’d rather they force it?3 points
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Omg, it makes me want to cry that Billie asked her to introduce them. I feel like that was probably a highlight of her life. I love what a huge fan she is!3 points
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Thanks for posting @pacejunkie punk! Great talk. Loved hearing insight in Coma City, I really enjoyed what he had to say about it. Even though Billie has now spoken about Dilemma multiple times, every single time I feel like I get nervous on his behalf and am like “you don’t need to talk about this if you don’t want to!!!” 😅 Good on him and I’m so proud of him for talking about it, but it must get a little tiring to keep discussing something so personal. And then he got asked about his relationship with his dad right after! I’m sure he has canned answers that he’s comfortable with for all this stuff, but I’d find it hard.3 points
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I just ordered the Dookie Igloo cooler. I thought it was badass. I'm not out to get all of the Saviors vinyl variants, but I'll buy the variants that I find in the "wild" with the exception of the hot pink galaxy version that I pre-ordered. So far I also have the Indy exclusive, Target exclusive, and the 180-Gram version. Unfortunately the Wal-Mart near me sucks, they only have a tiny vinyl section and it's all country records (I live in the Silicon Valley for cirssakes!) so no luck on the Wally World exclusive. I'll have to check other locations when it's convenient.3 points
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C2-uR3ry_xG/?igsh=MWlreXNhbHVnNzl2bg== More pics, etc in the article here https://www.siriusxmmedia.com/insights/boulevard-of-advertising-dreams-siriusxm-small-stage-series?utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=blog&utm_term=event-recap3 points
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Well, I got this US Stray Heart Promo CD... and I bought a Japanese Poprocks & Coke Single from eBay!3 points
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The link won’t work but Serena Williams posted on IG that Billie Joe called her and asked her to introduce them.3 points
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That idea might have worked if this album was anything more than a 4/10. The idea of defacing your most iconic album artwork as a fuck you to the people who don't like when you to do anything new or different is actually kind of based when you think about it. I hate that album cover but in theory, that could work. But when that new album in question is the biggest "whatever" album of your career, it's kind of just you shitting all over your iconic album for no reason. Like, it's actually really hard to find people who will rank the album near the top of their discography. And also when you spend the following tour playing all the hits from that iconic album, and the next tour playing that album in full while FOAMF gets completely ignored, then what was the point of defacing the American Idiot artwork.2 points
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Looking forward to checking it out, thanks!2 points
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I think it’s symbolic of them shitting on the idea that they have to make something as grandiose as American Idiot every time they put out new music. They went into this album without trying to live up to it. I think that’s why they chose the American Idiot album cover to graffiti over and piss on (with ketchup). And throwing a fucking hand drawn unicorn over it was the cherry on top.2 points
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I liked it then and still like it. Would I put it in the top half of their discography? No, but it's still enjoyable. Top tracks for me are TTMAC (which I will always want one of Billie's bands to play live), IWATT, Graffitia, and Oh Yeah.2 points
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I’ve just revisited this album a couple of weeks ago, listening to all of it during my drive home from work, and I have to say I appreciate the more experimental parts of it, like the extra effects they added to the sound of the instruments. A couple examples of this being the drum fill in “Meet Me On the Roof” before the instrumental break and the big bass slide in “Junkies on a high”. There’s also a nice instrumental swell going on before one of the choruses in “I was a Teenage Teenager”, a song that most people here seem to loathe. This reaction actually took me by surprise because this was an instant favorite for me after my first listens of the album. It’s the first song that gave strong hints of older Green Day (it reminded me of “Ha Ha You’re Dead!” in particular, probably because of the vocals having the “crowd sing-along” effect going on). The harmonies during the last chorus make it one of the best parts of the album. I’ve also come to really appreciate the songs where the band, and especially Billie Joe, don’t sound like they’re easily recognizable. Hearing them talk about this in interviews has given me a better perspective on what they were going for and why. Songs like “Father of All” benefited from this. The drums are also punchier than ever on this track, making it truly unique. One track I hated when it came out was “Fire, Ready, Aim!” because it sounded like it was unfinished. I wanted the BIG GREEN DAY SOUND. But they were trying to make songs that were independent of that idea, trudging into the unknown. They were truly embracing that “new band” mindset, opening themselves to new ways of making songs. This song sounded so stripped down because that’s exactly what they wanted to go for, and I appreciate that a bit more now. Overall, this album has grown on me. It might have taken a “return to form” album like ‘Saviors’ to make me more appreciative of their experimental side, but I’m glad I have this new perspective on the album now. Songs like “Oh Yeah!” and “Junkies on a High” are truly unique entries into their catalogue and mix things up in the same way that outliers like “Kill the Dj” and “Nightlife” did on the trilogy. I even understand the album cover now, even though I still consider it a terrible cover overall lol. Albums like this are what keep Green Day fresh and vital and I would be completely fine with them continuing the trend of toggling back and forth between “experimental” and “return to form” albums. The “experimental” ones make me appreciate the “return to form” ones even more and vice versa. Here’s my current favorites from this album: 1. Junkies on a High 2. Stab You in the Heart 3. Oh Yeah! 4. Take the Money and Crawl 5. I Was a Teenage Teenager2 points
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What a wild, wild time to be in the Green Day fandom. The FOAM era was certainly...memorable. But hey, I at least had a good time. I still hold that it has some bangers on there: TTMAC, MMOTR, Sugar Youth. At places it's a really fun album, others it's just questionable. No it doesn't have the best songwriting and the album is dreadfully short, but I still enjoy it. If anything I like that Green Day just went for it. And I like that when the look back at it now, they have no regrets. I appreciate them acknowledging its divisiveness, but I like that they're not backtracking or putting it down.2 points
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I thought this was the most detail he’s given on the Saviors recording timeline and how it evolved from just recording a handful of songs to bringing in Rob and going back and making it an album. Although he didn’t specifically mention “1972”, it seems like the first UK recording session was pre-Rob2 points
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Acoustics would probably be horrible but it would be cool nonetheless!2 points
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Apparently an empty mall in Richmond (East Bay) that he used to go to. A show or video. How cool would that be?! Probably won't happen but still2 points
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The Dookie cooler is great, only available in US though. Hate to think what it would cost to ship considering how much coffee is!2 points
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Speaking of covers with videos, if you’re gonna mention that you have to include this ❤️2 points
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Sorry, fell in all categories (including out of the top 10 in a couple of the airplay categories). I wasn't going to update this one since it seems to have peaked.2 points
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Hope this gets a video or is a single along with Father to a Son, Coma City or Strange Days hell even Suzie Chapsticks…side B is awesome2 points
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East Jesus Nowhere was also on the band's YT afaik. Here's the alt. Warning MV, it also has a page with Warning old tracklisting: 1. Blood Sex and Booze 2. Fashion Victim 3. Castaway 4. Warning 5. Macy's Day Parade 6. Misery 7. Minority 8. Waiting a Long Time (Waiting) 9. Deadbeat Holiday 10. Hold On 11. Jackass 12. Wasteaway 13. Sleepyhead 14. Clusterhand (Letterbomb) There's also a 15th which could be Church on Sunday, which is the only studio-released song missing. Also considering by how a few of you fellow GDCers have confirmed that Poprocks & Coke made airplay on music TV stations, what if it was actually supposed to be a single worldwide like 86?2 points
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We know Green day will play Dookie and American idiot in full on every concert. 1. Will they play both in the Albums tracklist Order or Mixed during the concert. 2. Which Saviors Songs will be played? 3. What other Songs will appear? What do you Think?1 point
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Even moreso than a jarring note....its a chromatic pattern similar to last night on earth, and it builds I think in the last third of the song. It's also used in the verses. This song is definitely the mega-hit for this album IMO, even though American Dream has done commercially better (which I think is unfair since it's the main single)1 point
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All I know is they damn well better play All By Myself if they're playing Dookie in "full"1 point
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I noticed that Saviors reuses two Paper Bullets songs: Follow You Around in Strange Days and Regretfully Yours in Father to a Son1 point
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Greg Schneider (paranoidtrooper) has posted some pics of the guys on Instagram. A lot are repeats but here's some of them https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3AATmyOUHq/?igsh=dmNrMXhsaDdjanp51 point
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Billie is posting tons, the last one has multiple stills from Greg but just look at the cutie in his glasses peering over Mike’s shoulder! https://www.instagram.com/stories/billiejoearmstrong/3296675777259313170?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=OGVibzM0ODdyMjM21 point
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This album is so good that it made me want to listen to GD's entire discography in order. Will be doing so over the next few days before listening to it again, so good.1 point
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I really wish all of their promotion didn't involve AI/Dookie when it comes to the album. We saw with Fallon that the televised portion of their bit was Basket Case, which was disappointing. When they do events, they are only playing old hits. They haven't even done any major talk shows (minus Stern). Instagram posts can only go so far. We saw with the Grammys that just performing in front of an audience can bump streaming numbers. Obviously the guys can't get a MASSIVE stage like that right now, but anything is better than nothing.1 point
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First off, I put quotation marks on the word lost for the ones that aren't on the GD YT anymore because one could not know about those MVs. Second off, the fansite said Stuck with Me and 86 both had MVs that were done. And I didn't even mention Last Ride In here because it's on the band's YT. Third off, yes I know the alt. Warning is off the EPK but Billie is literally singing the song in that alt MV so there has to be a chance they could've done that as another take. Fourth off, Green Day could've had plans to make 86 a worldwide single at some point. Not like every promo single is automatically promo. And promo singles can also have MVs, because Walking Contradiction has an MV and is promotional. And just because the fansite mentioned 86 having an MV does not strictly mean that they're a bunch of half-assed liars. For all I know it also could've been a misconception, so it's useless for you to act like you're always in the right because you think you can disprove something that a fansite says even though it could actually be either real or a misconception as well.1 point
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As long as there is no King for A Day, they could play the alphabet for all I care.!1 point