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I think as big fans, as much as we love them, it’s hard to kind of step back and assess just how popular they are from a mainstream, everyday listener perspective. Personally, I know I take for granted how dang cool they are and how remarkable it is that they had not one, but two separate waves of massive, world-takeover success a decade apart. That is more than most artists can claim. And among the rock bands that are active right now, Green Day is absolutely still one of the biggest and most well-liked. I always feel so proud to see how much people honestly just *like them.* Aside from conservatives who dislike them for their politics, people generally seem to have warm feelings toward this band because of nostalgia, because they can tell that they’re genuinely good guys, and because of how great they are live. Yes, there’s less interest in them now, but shortly after 21CB, the entire rock genre fell off the map and hasn’t recovered. That’s not on any one artist and is quite a hurdle to overcome, and I think it’s made even more difficult by the streaming discussion you’ve all been talking about — the art of the full album experience has been lost, and it’s now very overwhelming if you want to try getting into an established artist because their entire catalog is at your fingertips. My one hope is that young pop artists like Olivia Rodrigo, who are open about their rock influences and are incorporating it into their sound, will help bring it back into the mainstream. Because I don’t think it’s realistic that any older rock band will on their own without the help of a Gen Z push. I’m 30 and it’s very strange to think about how much music has changed since I first discovered Green Day with American Idiot. Back then, my parents played CDs every weekend from a really nice sound system we had. They’d always have rock albums playing in the car. And it was like that my entire childhood up until I was a teenager. Now they don’t even make CD players in cars anymore! 20 years is a long time, but it also isn’t. The rapid evolution of technology since AI came out really altered how we consume music and how music becomes popular.

I also think that buying the physical copy of an album or single was some sort of commitment. You actively had to go to the record store and spend money on a CD or vinyl. You only did that for artists you really cared about. Nowadays, the entire catalogue of a band is just one klick away. That’s super convenient but it can also be overwhelming. There’s too much to chose from. I sometimes feel like there’s so much music I’d like to listen to, but in the end, I end up listening to my favorite records over and over again. So I would say that sometimes less is actually more.

He is looking sooooo cute right now!

People shitting on AI isn't new. There were people at the time, who either didn't like the "new" sound/image, didn't like them speaking about politics/their positions, and this has continued. There's also people who just want to be contrarian. And like it's been said, rock just isn't the big thing now. I'd love for them to chart on the Billboard 100 again, but unless there's a shift, don't see it happening. As long as they keep doing well in the rock charts, I'm happy. It does concern me a bit that they went down in the hot rock/alternative/rock alternative charts this week, but they haven't really been promoting it this past week since they've been sick. Hopefully they'll start doing real interviews and going on talk shows and things will improve.

Hope we get some instrumental breakdowns on this record like Welcome to Paradise, ending of Blvd, and Too Dumb to Die.

My favourite Green Day song since Bang Bang. It's just got all the energy that a Green Day song should have.

Honestly, I've always just considered the Golden Age of Green Day to be Dookie-21CB but I might have to throw the trilogy in to that Golden Age. And ik a lot of people would really disagree with me there, I've always acknowledged how flawed the trilogy is but there are so many songs on there that are just straight up fire. It's not as consistent as the 94-09 stuff but a trilogy can't really be that consistent. I'm overall really happy with how the trilogy turned out and think it's the best thing they've done post-21CB. It's better than RevRad, it's better than Longshot, it's for sure better than FOAMF and the new Network album imo. I won't be surprised if I end up preferring the trilogy to Saviors, I hope that's not the case but I think the trilogy is genuinely pretty great Talking of people not listening to albums anymore, instead just popular songs. I can't stand the fact that people are hearing Longview without hearing Chump before it. Or Brain Stew without Jaded. And not even just songs that transition. But when I hear Basket Case on its own, I immediately expect to hear She. When I listen to Panic Song, I can just hear the bass intro to Stuart and the Ave.. Playlists and just picking and choosing songs can be great but I can't imagine not listening to albums. A 9/10 album is so much more impactful than a playlist full of 10/10 songs that don't connect to each other imo

We shouldn’t forget that these guys had an incredible run between Dookie and 21CBD. All of their albums, even those that were considered commercial failures at the time, sold millions of copies worldwide. Dookie and AI were obviously massive, but all of their other releases were successful too. And the songs from these albums are still very popular. They have a lot of monthly listeners on Spotify, more than most of their contemporaries, and they still have the ability to fill stadiums with their music. That tells me that they’re definitely not irrelevant or unpopular. It’s true that there’s less interest in their new material but that has nothing to do with the quality of the songs. It’s not like no one will listen to the new record. Even FOAM debuted at #1 in various countries. I obviously want the band to do well, but I also think we’re kind of spoiled. Additionally, I feel like they don’t even want to be the center of attention anymore. Billie isn’t like Dave Grohl who gives like 30 interviews a day. I mean look at the Foo Fighters, they even had their own horror movie last year. That’s just something that Green Day wouldn’t do, and I’m kind of happy about that. They don’t do collaborations, they don’t appear on TV that often and while I’d sometimes love to see more of them, I also understand this approach. They have nothing to prove anymore, why not take it easy?

Billie says he's part Canadian now. Said his son (Joey?) married a girl from Toronto.

I was listening to American dream on Spotify in the car there's alot of bass on tre's kick drum it really sounds good

So these appear to be from yesterday. They look fine which is good to see, in fact they look better than fine, Billie looks gorgeous and the eyeliner is on point! https://www.instagram.com/p/Czw5Pd1u_gW/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Obviously with streaming it's quick convenient, and you can create your own playlists and listen to them wherever you are. Could you say it's killing the listeners ability to fully know a band inside out. Maybe I'm old school, but going to record store picking up a 12" vinyl into the sound booth, headphones on, shut your eyes, fuck everything else, just listen. The excitement, the rush when I first heard Kerplunk and found my new love when I listened to PHGP just because of the name. Even CD singles, the last one was Bang, Bang, which as always with GD included live tracks, the latter you can't stream, it just ain't the same.

While I personally prefer RevRad over the trilogy, I can definitely understand why some fans think that the trilogy is better. It definitely deserves a critical reassessment because I think it didn’t deserve the hate it got from some critics and fans. While it’s officially three separate albums, I always saw the trilogy as one project, and if you take all three records into account, the good definitely outweighs the bad. I sometimes find it hard to look past some of the mediocre or even bad songs (and lyrics) and the overall sound of the production. But realistically speaking, you cannot expect 30+ perfect songs for a project like this. So while I think that the trilogy isn’t as good as their output between 94 und 09, it’s still an ambitious project that grew on me over the years. I think I almost exclusively listened to albums before Spotify became a thing. There’s definitely an appeal to creating your own playlists but it’s just not the same as listening to one of your favorite albums from front to back. I don’t know if an album like AI would have as big of an impact if it came out now. Probably not. The big hits would end up on playlists but songs like JOS or Homecoming would probably get killed by the Spotify algorithm.

I think this is the false image that airplay charts create. It’s a tactic achieved by record labels to get the songs heard, but it’s not enough on its own. The people then have to respond by buying and streaming it themselves in the millions to make an actual chart impact that matters. If the response is meh, the song slides down the airplay chart and that’s it. It’s possible it could take time to grow, and I agree some promotion on TV and elsewhere would help that.

Reading this as I'm eating Taco Bell...

Fun but disappointing. People need to stop asking them about old stories and ask about something new, like the new album maybe!

According to the Italian billboard article that leaked fancy sauce rides out with a pretty long instrumental

I remember those days, the joy of finding all sorts of music in the library (it’s where I found Dr Feelgood), record shops letting you hang out and listen and the rush of buying a new album… then CD. But, moving them all, particularly vinyl, was a nightmare and we moved regularly so CDs felt like a huge boon. I still like to buy physical copies, probably always will but I think there is a huge loss in streaming songs and not listening to a well crafted album.

Imagine if they put out 1981 as a single on New Year's Day? They can promote it by posting something clever like, "She's gonna bang her head like 2024!! Happy New Year everyone!!! Our new single, 1981 is out now!!!!!!!!!"

I feel this. At $10-15 for one record buying music was a decision and a risk. Often I ended up with albums in my collection where I liked a couple singles but the rest was crap. I tried to keep to a rule where I had to know at least three songs to make the purchase worth it if it was a new band or I only bought albums from certain “reliable” favorites. That’s where taping became really useful, we’d record our albums or mix tapes and share them to hear more without breaking the bank.

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Am I the only one who truly believes there's no deeper meaning behind "tiktok and taxes" at all? I think it's just a random line he once came up with that sounds good because of the "tick, tock, tack" sound, and he decided to use it for this song because it fits the overall theme.

I mean back in the early days of streaming where the most convenient way of hearing music online was through YouTube, I'd get why it'd be harder for people to listen to a band fully or listen through their albums in order. That's sort of how I listened to Green Day at first. I knew most of the songs off of American Idiot but most of the songs I heard after that I just discovered through listening to Green Day songs on YouTube, seeing new songs in the recommended section and I didn't know what album these songs were on when I heard them because they were mostly lyric videos. If anything, with streaming services like Spotify and Apple Music, it should be easier to know a band inside out since you have their entire discography in front of you. It also should be easier for you to listen to albums. I think people just don't want to. I think it's much easier for people to just listen to the top 10 for a band, save the songs they like and move onto the next band's top 10

You think Billie is in the Network?

Honestly, probably not. They just stream popular songs. TikTok attention spans are prevalent in a lot of spaces. It's like asking if people still read newspapers vs. consuming news on social media.

The 8 millionth retelling of the sleepy story. And I wish they had all answered the worst tattoo questions. It's one that I always wanted asked in an interview. But love seeing Billie happy.

It was interesting when he mentioned the album making process and then said “sometimes you think you’re inspired and you’re not…” The interviewers should have chased this comment down but I wonder if that’s what happened with FOAM

People who think American Idiot is just average clearly haven't heard it in a long time and are letting their current views of the band influence their opinion on it. Every time I listen to that record start to finish, I'm impressed by how amazing it is. It truly is a masterpiece, no matter what people say.

really? How do you know? That is unfortunately low for such great video. The part where Billie screams SAY and climbs on the car and plays solo is just EPIC

I think that "TikTok and taxes" fits very well because this part of the verse is written from a republican-conservative perspective. They hate immigation, tiktok and taxes. And the following part is sort of the answer from people who sleep in broken glass because the american dream didn't care for them. In addition the whole song reminds me about the line in JOS "in a land of make believe, that don't believe in me".

Saw it twice during SEC Nation this morning

I think we will get the 3rd single in mid December. I wouldn't be surprised if it will be 1981. 4th single will probably be released in mid January together with the album release. *Or as an alternative scenario, no new single will be released this year and the 3rd single will be released towards (a week before) the album release in mid January.

Last year I broke Billie's funko pop when I found out I had the Covid two days before the concerts. This year I couldn't get a ticket to Milan, for that fckng small show, and I broke my copy of Bullet in a Bible (by the way I bought it used 12 years ago) Ah oops, this is the "fangirls" topic I think I've really got problems. I love this band, this band saved my life and help me in all of my teenage years But lately following them and being disappointed really hurts. My hella small tour

Green Day should make their own tacos. The only issue would be that they rot before you receive them in the mail.

The tik tok and taxes line. Billie could be saying that a person not wanting imigrants to be here is as stupid as tik tok and taxes. Or....Billie knew it would get people talking. Making the point - isn't it funny people are more worried about Tik Tok than helping the people in the streets? You were watching tik toks and people died in the streets.

Fink and Billie are nothing alike

Co-sign! also we got releases from Tubbies, The Networkers, and Pinhead Gunpowder during the golden years!

People don’t buy music anymore so the only way to monetize the songs now is to license them to movies, TV and games. It’s a legitimate revenue stream in today’s reality. If people still bought records by the millions, this wouldn’t be as necessary (though still a good option for promotion)

Hopefully it's the ones who followed them just to complain in the comments.

It's okay if they're not a big hit anymore. They're in their 50s and they had two incredibly successful albums for crying out loud. They're at a point in their careers and their lives where they're allowed to make and enjoy playing new music without having the fear of becoming irrelevant. They've got nothing to prove anymore. It might be sad to never see them reach those heights again, but it also feels good to see how this is liberating for them. That pressure they (especially Billie) felt back in the 2000s is gone. And all that aside, they're still HUGE when it comes to rock bands. Everything's okay.

The pure shock on the chicks face when Billie slid into the interview was great.

Billie with his ADHD: “Yeah so anyway I was… is that a UFO?” (Crouches down and starts doing squats)

The placement of this interview in a mid-November episode is very misleading. I think they were interviewed at Louder Than Life, which took place like a whole month before TADIKM even dropped, so it wasn’t at a time when they’d be discussing the new album yet. That said, their interviews always make me so ridiculously happy so this was delightful to watch anyway.

I ain't got no brains... because I thought eating at Taco Bell was good idea 😂

fuck green day

Rain falling from the stars is a poetic way of saying he’s up late at night and it’s raining. It’s a description of rain at night and all the darkness and sadness that implies. Don’t underestimate Billie’s songwriting

I would like to see more promotion and I think there would have been a bit this week but for the illnesses. I imagine there’s more to come, particularly when the album comes out

Billie looked and sounded so good last night I see. Red bandana in back pocket now! https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzPpQNvtlvc/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==