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Quantity of the songs on the trilogy, sometimes makes me forget how lovely these songs are. I'm not sure if we will ever have an anniversary edition of the trilogy but these songs always make a smile on my face. -Dirty Rotten Bastards -Brutal Love -X-Kid -Baby Eyes -Rusty James -Missing You -8th Ave Serenade -Little Boy Named Train -Sweet 16

That’s part of his process though, and it’s something he’s always done. I wouldn’t consider that a mark against the quality of songwriting. It’s just that most of the time you don’t know that subpar songs have been cannibalized to make better songs. Look how surprised we were to find Church on Sunday - a great song that tells a coherent story about compromise in a relationship - borrowed bits from Black Eyeliner. Sometimes lyrics that are reused can take on new meaning and suddenly fit like jigsaw pieces where they didn’t quite fit before.

Since the American Idiot musical used songs from 21st Century Breakdown as supplemental material to flesh out the story I’d imagine Mayer asked what other songs Billie had that could work in the production. And we know it was being demoed in 94, 97, and most importantly in that context in 2004 so I’m sure he was happy to give it a place to finally see release. But I’m sure Mayer also wanted permission before adding it into the story and rehearsals, ect. It seemed from Broadway Idiot like the two had a good working relationship.

You guys have no idea how fucking excited I would be to hear any of the tracks from Trilogy live one more time. Besides shitty Oh Live attempt this year and the most random Nuclear Family and Amy performances from RR Tour, these songs have been long gone from the setlist. Longshot atleast brought Stay the Night back but even that project seems to be dead again. 8th Avenue Serenade is just the best ❤️

Billie has mentioned a few times that they weren't on good terms for a period of time. But that was all resolved by the time the trilogy rolled around obviously.

There isn't a grudge anymore I think but there definitely was something there after American idiot. Not only Billie Joe has mentioned something about "rebuilding their relationship", I also remember some people close to the band which were posting here at the time and were reliable and didn't troll (don't ask me who I really don't remember it's been more than ten years) that were saying that something happened and they were not in good terms. Don't remember the details sorry.

I think you nailed it here, we just need a healthy mix rather than sticking with the same method over and over. And totally agree about Mike’s backing vocals pre-AI days. It was a massive part of the band’s sound.

Dude: „omg you‘re Billie Joe Armstrong from Green Day?!?!“ Billie: „Hi nice to meet you. New album“ Dude: „Thank you! Goodbye“ Yes, he did mention it 😂

Can't wait for the 20th anniversary tour when they play the entire trilogy from front to back every night. It will easily be their best selling tour (maybe best selling of all time in the history of music) just because of how beloved the trilogy is.

Yeah, maybe the insightful lyrics in the chorus 😁

And for all we know, we may discover that lyrics in a song on the new album could be borrowed from One Eyed Bastard

Thats right, I completely forgot about that run in Berkeley being 2009.

Billie didn't play it live in 2009 until 2 months before the musical premiered, production would've been well underway for the musical so it would've been added before then

I think they remixed and remastered the tracks as they do sound quite modern. If you listen to it next to Dookie it’s different I think they played it live on the 21cb tour a few times perhaps he heard it that way?

This is the impression I get as well. Don’t know the details though

I don’t think so. I read that at the time of 21cb his role was expanded at the record company. It sounds more like he was busy and the band wanted to put a large effort into the album.

Rob Cavallo was busy during the time they were writing and recording 21CB. In 2006 he produced The Black Parade by MCR and in 2009 he produced Paramore's Brand New Eyes. The fact that the very next project they recorded after 21CB they recorded with Cavallo means I don't think there were really any hurt feelings between them, even if their friendship was impacted. Not working together for 8 years after spending 10 years working together (1994-2004) does seem like something that would maybe affect their relationship Even if the band did actively choose not to record with Cavallo for 21CB, he doesn't seem like the type of guy to hold a grudge like that and I highly doubt he would let that affect the production of the following project they would work on together. The issues with the trilogy's production was probably more to do with Billie who seemed to want the albums to sound a certain way and so many songs being on the project that they didn't really get to put the necessary time and effort into all of them to make them stand out

Listening to the uptempo full band arrangement of Good Riddance from the Audible, I think it would be a great way to freshen up this song for encores. Billie could still play acoustic but they could play it as a full band, it’s such a fun romp. You could still end with Good Riddance but change it up.

Also based on what they said in Cuatro, the band and Cavallo had been apart for a while and they referred to his return as “rekindling the friendship”. So he may have been treading lightly and just glad to be there to play a more supportive role rather than coming in heavy handed with a lot to say. Billie had a definite idea of wanting a clean sound for these songs and he did his best to deliver that and not do too much. I like when Mike gets the occasional whole lines and verses to sing. Even backing vocals he gets lost in the mix these days. His voice is a nice counterpoint to Billie’s and suits certain character voices. It’s what I like so much about the Network, how their voices are balanced more and used to great effect on certain songs. Reminds me of what The Beatles would do, knowing which songs would suit which vocalist.

If my memory doesn’t fail me, what we gathered from both interviews and Cuatro is that the production process there was quite different. The band almost self produced those records, when the recording started Cavallo took the demos and probably acted a bit too much as a yes man doing some polishing but not really steering them in any direction. I remember a bit of Cuatro where Cavallo essentially say that the tracks where so good that he didn’t really have much to do. And well, maybe that was not necessarily true for all of them. Maybe he actually believed that, maybe it was a time/budget constraint due to the amount of songs. Who knows. I would definitely love to see a good music journalist that knows the band interviewing them about those days. I’m pretty sure if asked the right questions in the right way they would have many things to say about that era that we still only partially know.

I am so stoked to hear the production of the new songs. I mean Green Day + Rob Cavallo + Chris Lord-Alge already sounded amazing 20 years ago. Now think about 20 years progress in their skills and their equipment and add that to the high level they already had 😍