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I haven't been particularly thrilled with the lead single choices since AI, other than "Bang Bang." Here is what I would have picked: 21CB: "21st Century Breakdown" or "East Jesus Nowhere" ("Know Your Enemy" was too bland) Trilogy era: "Stay the Night" ("Oh Love" was just strange) RevRad: "Bang Bang" (perfect!) FOAM: ??? ...whatever...12 points
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There’s so much about the AI image overhaul that never stops to fascinate me. There was this band that released an album of The Kinks and folk rock inspired music and then someone took a look at them and went you know what guys, you should do the emo look that would work for you. And then they decide to record a rock opera and aim big and it all works out. When you watch HLAHG, you can tell they were thinking it through as a comeback/reinventing themselves and in hindsight, yeah, it was perfect, but it was such a strike of genius. I wouldn’t look at a chubby 30-year-old man and think “that’s gonna be the next teenage heartthrob!” if I were a Warner exec10 points
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It was a scary time pre-AI. Not a lot of people listened to Warning when it came out so Green Day wasn’t a very popular band anymore or on anyone’s radar. A lot of people thought Green Day hung it up and that Superhits/Shenanigans were the final nail in the coffin. It wasn’t really until BOBD came out as a single that EVERYONE began to take notice of the “new” Green Day. at least these days it’s a lot easier to know the band are up to something and that new music will be coming in the near future 👍10 points
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And watching the music videos from Warning (especially Minority) they were still being marketed as goofy, silly cartoon punks. It really was a reinvention in every way.9 points
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No, PleasedToMeetMe is correct. Letterbomb wasn’t released as a single but it was released to radio not longer after the American Idiot single came out. So the first two things to be heard from the record were them two songs, then the record was released. Remember it VERY clearly.6 points
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Totally true. I really hope that one day we hear all the inside info on this but it really feels like they went through this whole “do you even really want to do this anymore” thing and then in the serious, adult conversations that followed realised they could do more, could grow up and push boundaries and then had the guts to pull it off, complete with rock star makeover. Really remarkable.5 points
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I had no idea Letterbomb was the 2nd track to be heard from the album. A really interesting choice for sure The reason why American Idiot sold less in the first week than it could've is probably due to the fact that it was the follow up to Warning. People probably weren't that hyped to hear the follow up to Warning until they heard the singles. Comparatively, 21CB would've had a lot of hype going into it just because it was the follow up to AI. AI sold 267,000 copies in its first week while 21CB sold 215,000 copies in its first 3 days (+166,000 for the following 7 days). 21CB's peak was always going to be the first week or two5 points
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If I remember correctly they released American Idiot and Letterbomb before the album so I’m sure you can imagine how awesome it was to hear those for the first time. I think everyone was really nervous about the “rock opera” thing, nobody really knew what to expect and definitely didn’t see it becoming the massive success it went on to become 👍5 points
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Anyone who was around for the wait between Warning and American Idiot remembers how grueling it was. We didn’t even know if Green Day was still a band at certain points, it wasn’t until The Network that things got interesting.5 points
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Interesting to hear how old fans were at each release, so I will join the fun. My first wait was between Nimrod and Warning. 11 Years old when Nimrod changed everything. Warning, Superhits and Shenanigans became the glue cementing my obsession as my parents and I listened to those nonstop, filling what would have been a long and painful dry spell. I remember taking Warning and Superhits on vacation with us in 2001. I was 19 when Idiot came out and oh boy was being a real idiot in real life. Now I'm just a grouch sitting on the couch, the world owes me 400 bucks.4 points
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I start being a fan in 2005-2006, so the first album I saw the release was 21st. What a journey until now... I think the first single with more hype to me as a fan was Bang Bang. My "hype score" after listen the first single since 21CB was: 1. Bang Bang 2. Know Your Enemy 3. Oh Love 4. Father of Al...3 points
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I wonder what would’ve happened if the C&V album was completed and released as originally planned?2 points
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I would’ve picked Graffitia for FOAM, after all, it was in the MLB The Show 20 soundtrack2 points
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Did anyone hear listen to the album through the MTV website when they premiered it like a week early? I remember being really surprised by songs like Are We the Waiting, BOBD and WMEWSE and being blown away by JOS.2 points
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No, Letterbomb was released online before the release of the album. I believe through greenday.net. It wasn’t an actual single.2 points
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Unfortunately, I hadn't discovered Green Day until my early teens when American Idiot came out, but it was during that discovery period (with the help of international superhits) that I discovered I actually knew quite a few of their older songs too, I just didn't know who they were by until then. Back to what you were saying though, the wait for me between AI and 21CB felt fucking huge. It wasn't really helping that it felt like pretty much every single day I was on the internet speculating and looking for info on the next record, as I was for many other things I was interested in too. These days, 4 and a half years feels like a couple of weeks to me since I'm pretty good at keeping myself distracted with other things... but the downside to that is life seems to be flying by faster and faster every day. Looking back and reflecting on that time period now, I really wish I just spent more time living in the moment than being too excited for things that hadn't happened yet. Okay rant time! Can you believe I just fucking turned 32? How depressing is that? I don't really look it (according to most people that guess I am in my early 20s) or feel it (except now that I think of it, my back is kind of fucked). But damn, Billie Joe was 32 when American Idiot came out. Still can't believe he's already in his 50s. Next thing I know, I'm gonna be in my 50s and he's going to be in his 70s. What the hell? Yes! 101 fucking percent! I imagine part of the record label re-sign process probably had quite a few requests that the band members had, less strict deadlines likely being one of them. The impatient see this as a negative, but to me I see it as a huge positive. Again, I'd rather wait for the boys to announce and release something that they really care about than something they were forced to finish in a strict deadline so the record label could do their thing. If that happened to me, I wouldn't be able to cope and the material would ultimately suffer for it. Screw that.2 points
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Back on Jan 10, @pacejunkie punk posted an update from greenday.fm. Quote "New info from a close band source: despite the 1972 name teases, album 14 does not have a title yet and they are still “in the middle” of working on the new record." This is a positive step I think, as the last main tease was Aug 16. I appreciate the wait is frustrating a real drag. I've had this eleven times since Kerplunk. It's always been worth the wait, and I've never been disappointed. The next one is gonna be a cracker. Hang in there and stay positive. Get ready coz in a while just imagine, this topic will be in meltdown. The album release will be announced, its title, number of tracks, the first single release. Then news of tour dates and venues. When will tickets be available. Holy shit, have a got any money. Where can I rob, sorry, cadge some dosh. I think it's time to get excited. 😜2 points
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Long time listener, first time caller, or at least it's been a while since I have posted anything. Just adding my two cents to my thoughts for the upcoming album and when my fandom took off. My Green Day fandom officially launched when 21st Century Breakdown released. I got an issue of Rolling Stone in early 2009 with Taylor Swift on it, and it had a story on Green Day still putting together the finishing touches for the follow-up to American Idiot. I forgot what the title was, but I remember the song East Jesus Nowhere had a different working title a couple of months before the album was released. For me, I only knew of When I Come Around, Good Riddance, and the singles from the American Idiot album prior to 21st Century Breakdown. Loved each of the tracks, but didn't do any deeper digging than that. Honestly, I am not even sure if I was truly jacked by the release of Know Your Enemy, although I do remember them using that for the NCAA March Madness tournament. Either way, between the article and the NCAA promo, it got me interested enough to check out the album. The album came out either the week before I graduated from high school, the week of, or the week after. I just remember listening to the album from my iPod setup in my car nonstop when it came out. The title track was euphoric to me sonically and lyrically. It reminded me of the classic rock I grew up listening to with hints of The Who and Queen, or that's what bands it reminded me of. From there I was hooked the rest of the album. The album might not have had the long-term commercial success and singles hitting radio airplay, but I will argue into forever that it is one of their best albums. A product of it being my first album of theirs I listened to all the way through, but I feel that that sonically it is some of my favorite sounding things to listen to, and lyrically while it can be dark, the lyrics came from Billie's experience. Plus, I know Billie talked about how taxing making that album was, and I can only imagine what it is like making a follow-up the a blockbuster of an album that American Idiot was. They were coming from a true genuine place, even if the storyline for the rock opera might be a bit more over the map compared to American Idiot. I hope that if I am lucky enough to see them again that they can find a way to add more songs from that album to the setlist, or by divine intervention add the title track. It would hit me the same way when I saw the Foo Fighters two years ago and they played Aurora, my favorite track of theirs. My first album cycle where I jumped in with both feet was the Trilogy, and what a time to be a fan to see the creation of an album. Remember all of the video updates they posted on YouTube, and how this site was flooded with a level of analysis not seen since the Zapruder film? What does that blue filter mean? Trying to pause and zoom in to see names of songs, etc. It was paradise and maddening at the same time, which would seem like a good set of words to describe what that album cycle became. So these videos on TikTok reminded me a lot of the lead-up to the Trilogy. As for the next album, I have some hopes, but no true-blue expectations. At this point they are a legacy band, so the likelihood of having anything top the Billboard Top 200 albums or Top 100 singles chart is out of the question. I want them to make an album that they are proud of, that is true to where they are at the moment, and builds upon their strengths with some hints of new elements that stays true to their sense of not making the same record twice. I don't want them to chase a certain sound, or to play the nostalgia card because rock/alternative/pop punk music is having a renaissance. Make the music that is true to where you are at this moment. *There I go being a hypocrite and putting together a laundry list of things I want them to do for the next album, but honestly do whatever moves you guys! I will finish with this. It seems since American Idiot the subsequent albums have followed the trend of trying to outdo the previous album in terms of the extravagance or the event associated with a new album, or trying to course correct from the response to previous albums to some degree. It will be interesting to see if whatever comes from the 1972 sessions if they fall into either category, or forge a new path of being comfortable/confident with where they are. Again, not to say that they were feeling this with any of the subsequent albums, but it is just what I feel the music they released since American Idiot can fall under. 21st Century Breakdown and the Trilogy would fall into the outdoing the previous albums category. Follow up a concept record with another, with even more songs?!?! The Trilogy, how about three albums with 37 songs in total?!?! Having songs in Angry Birds and other avenues, etc. I am sure part of that was to make money back for releasing three albums of music, but it was all about making an event out of it. Not to mention the documentary on the making of the album. It is interesting to see artists today, especially in Country music like Zach Bryan and others releasing three albums worth of songs, and that it is a trendy thing to do. A product of the streaming age and having more things to stream, even though I am still sure there are other factors to this trend. To me 21CB stuck the landing better in terms of the spectacle of it all, although I have more than a soft spot for what the Trilogy was all about, even though again it was an extremely dark time for Billie and the guys. The Trilogy served as a course correction of the perception of people not wanting another concept record, which I was guilty of, and I know from interviews from the Trilogy era that the guys were more than happy to create an album that didn't have that kind of structure. It was just that they played both sides of trying to make an event out of this album cycle, and course correct to do more "classic" Green Day. RevRad was a course correct from the Trilogy in my book. A more straight down the middle album with some of the best bits of the music that they have made this century. A standard twelve-track album that was less of an event in the lead-up to the release of the album, but still a great payoff. The Trilogy wasn't critically acclaimed, and there were more than enough people putting together what they thought would be the best standard twelve-track album from all of the songs of the Trilogy. Father of All was another course correct of going against a safe record that RevRad could come across as. A wild/party record with elements of Dos and Foxboro, with literally no filler when it comes to the amount of time the record lasts for. Another album that I may like a bit more than others do for the sake of doing something a bit wild, even if lyrically it is a bit rough to put it lightly. Who knows if this new project will follow in this pattern that I feel has emerged since AI, but I look forward to it either way. At this point they aren't obligated or need to put out any new music, so anything they do release is a win. I just want it to be a solid addition to their catalogue, and something that they are proud of. As many of you have mentioned recently who have been a fan far longer than I have, there was a stretch where their existence as a band was in question, so I can be as patient as I can be in this day of instant gratification of wanting new music right now! Although the marketing strategy seems a bit odd to me with the radio silence after the initial bombardment of updates, but I suppose having a world tour during the process would have a little bit of an impact. Feel free to let me know if I am way off base, or need to clarify anything! Beyond glad to be part of this community, and I hope to see some of you guys for the show in Milwaukee this July. Still got to get my ticket, but when you have Green Day and Foo Fighters on back-to-back nights, I will for sure find a way to be there! Wouldn't miss it for the world.1 point
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1. Follow The Yellow Brick Road 2. Torchlight (Dirnt’s Face) 3. Context In a Handbasket (Dedicated To You) 4. Revoked (Tre’s Lament) 5. Slip of the Steak 6. Tasty People Are Gross 7. Kidney Bill 8. Technology Equals Arnold 9. Oppositions of Love 10. Chauvinist Wrist 11. Packet of Wry 12. Shaving (Smooth) 13. Green Day Collapse 14. Constellation of Destruction (Green Day Suck!) 15. Assault on GDA: Part 1: Therapy / Part 2: Facility / Part 3: Nail / Part 4: Collapse The World of Green Day (My Name Is Legweak)1 point
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And in HLAHG, to think BJ thought we were so bad in the forums bad back then…🤣1 point
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I remember being obsessed with the singles after my friend show them to me. The next day I went to circuit city to pick up American Idiot.1 point
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Interesting. They should try that again tbh. Release a single, then the album, and then determine which song should be the next single by which song is getting the most either streams or radio play1 point
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I was but a tiny young lad during that time . How was the feeling when they first released AI ? What was your reaction to hearing the singles off the album?1 point
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Just like Green Day to wake us all up with a new side project in The Network. Money Money 2020 is amazing. Still, we had a few titbits to keep us going. The 'Tune In Tokyo' live ep was awesome for me being so into GD live. There was of course, International Superhits CD/DVD with two new songs - Poprocks & Coke and Maria, and Shenanigans. And Crickets cover 'I Fought The Law.1 point
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I'm just glad it seems like what we've gotten so far has just been the band teasing a record they're excited about - it's not forced promotion from some record label/management company etc., just the band being themselves. Which may end in a lot of mystery but at least we haven't been told there won't be any trap beats (yet).1 point
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