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Considering Bill Schneider is on vacation (per his Instagram), they're likely not recording at the moment. Not that he has to be there for recording, but from the all stuff we've seen so far, he has been.

Could be that they added another song or two, those have been mixed and now the whole album is in mastering; meanwhile they're deciding on a name, album covers promotional material etc. There's a lot more that goes into releasing an album on a scale like this so I think it's still reasonable to believe the album itself is for the most part complete and they're still 'in the middle of working on it'. Music videos too!

I thought we recently heard some inside information that concert venues were being booked for this year. I can't see them going on a summer tour without an album. I really think this will be a tour that actually supports the album, I don't think we'll get a Hella Mega 2.

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That black/grey was Billie's hairstyle in October/November I think. He already lost weight at that time. So maybe they recorded some additional things. But nevertheless, the search for an album title and the promotion/marketing doesn't say anything about the progress of the music itself. So a release in spring 2023 could still be possible.

I still think the album is coming 2023. C'mon guys they've been working on this for months now and it just turned 2023, it won't take THAT much longer now that hella mega is over

His version with Costello is a million times better. Boring release.

2024 seems to far i still believe in a release this year, more like 2nd half of the year

It's the acoustic one, but the audio quality is definitely much better than the one posted on YouTube recently

So got bought a gift box of Oakland Coffee as part of my Christmas present. It was wildly expensive as postage was almost as much again but omg it’s so good. It’s Father of all dark roast which worried me as I can find American coffee undrinkable but this so good, it’s so smooth it’s just amazing. Could be a very bad habit I just picked up!

We thought the ‘probably’ meant as opposed to 2022. Don’t forget they started it in 2021. No one was thinking he meant it could be 2024. I mean they’re not shooting a Marvel movie

I just hope that after all of this delay we get an album longer then 10 songs

Here’s a tiny update for y’all from Jason at reddit/greenday.fm: “So I asked about the 1972 title after the #not1972hashtag thing from the fan who met Rob Cavallo. I can confirm there is no official title for the record yet and they are still “in the middle of working on it”. Pretty surprised to hear they are still working on it after this long - we are well over a year now since they first hit the studio in London. I think a lot of us presumed it was basically in the bag at this point but looks like they’re still going - epic record incoming? I think so.”

I was thinking that too. Maybe not a year in advance like Hella Mega tickets but surely if they’re touring this summer they have to announce ticket sales by March?

Well, if there are really bookings for a tour next summer, they should start promoting in the next weeks at least an announcement for the upcoming tour.

Yes, and the gap between the single and album was 5 months. If the gap between album recording and album release is the same as FOAM, we shouldn't be expecting the album until June at the earliest. Again, I'm not expecting a 2024 release but if you're saying we should be getting the album within the first half of the year, that's probably not likely

Thanks for that, you're a star. It's such a beautiful Costello song, and yes that live version with Elvis C is amazing. As this demo quality is much better than the current one on You Tube, having listened to it a few times, thanks to @GreenDayItaly, I like it, it's cool. Sorry you think it's boring.

For all we know, they could already be done

I don’t really feel like it’s appropriate to argue against this... That said, I choose to cut him some slack. He’s been through a lot and as a fan, I don’t want to engage with stuff he does by pointing out its weaknesses even though I am very well aware of them.

It took Axl Rose 11 years to finish Chinese Democracy I'm not saying 1972 will take 11 years... ...maybe 9?

And damn good ones but probably left them off because either they didn't fit the 'let's all party we're gonna die' theme or they knew they'd rather use them for a side project no one will hear. Like I said, frustrating. I think they jumped the gun and really thought they were gonna drop something right away. That 1972 RAK Studios London video was just too deliberate and produced. Then they changed their minds because they thought they were on to something bigger. I still think the release will be this year though, because we know they are scheduling tour dates. Are they going to do another greatest hits tour?

In the middle of working on it could mean many things I guess, but based on this I guess at best a single in spring and the record in summer. Maybe they took a break from everything since the end of the tour and just have to finalize tracklist and other things not related to recording. Regardless, seems clear to me they are taking their time and not rushing anything, which is definitely a good thing.

Announcement on Billie’s birthday in February? As I said, I think we recently got some kind of inside information that they were in the process of booking venues. And remember what Billie said at the end of the Asbury Park, NJ show, “It’s going to be a long time until next summer!”

Okay so March would make sense for a summer tour

They were probably pressured to release the single early to promote the Hella Mega Tour. Weezer and Fall Out Boy too!!! Then Weezer’s album ended up getting delayed due to the pandemic

Lots of bands release a single before they're even finished recording the album, so we really can't connect timelines like that.

Totally!!! We got the FOAM single in September 2019 and I saw on Wikipedia that the recording sessions ended that same month

Wtf please no Remember when Billie said "raise your hands up in the airrrrrrrrrrrrr" ?? Heyyy ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

You can hear an official ( so no leak ) of the song on Apple Music. Just press on Alison's preview here https://music.apple.com/nz/album/nimrod-25th-anniversary-edition/1649630743

It's the same, but much better quality

Hopefully, his statement on the subject means he has been able to recover. “I was on drugs when I wrote some of my songs. It was a rough time for me, but I’m lucky enough to be one of the people who learned from that experience and moved on, where other people just got addicted and more addicted and more addicted until it killed them.” (Billie Joe)

The song, Pollyanna's title reminded me of a movie that has a fictional character who used to be one of my role models. I really should watch the entire movie again but may end up crying at the end of it like I did years ago. I really enjoyed the prism scene and the glad game. I did not understand the importance of the glad game but it's all about perception changing, just as Green Day's song is about perception changing. When Holy Toledo came out I was appalled at first but then I noticed something... perhaps they aren't wanting to get into trouble but wanting to sing about the problem so that others can see where the trouble starts so that they can avoid repeating it. I should really go back through the lyrics and think about them differently. Macy's Day Parade however seems to be an I'm sick of waiting on you therefore I'm going to lose patience and break up with you song.... which proves that they don't love the subject of the song... because.... well... Love is patient. A person who really loves themself ... well it can be argued they'd be more patient than breaking their engagement with themself... yet at the same time I see why they did it... they wouldn't want to be a Narcissist. As to Billie being a perfectionist... he will not ever be truly happy as long as he seeks perfection over love... so I hope he isn't doing that. Love in an art form does not judge the art but accepts the art and the raw emotion for which it stands. Perhaps a theme isn't what is needed for 1972 yet the title of it already indicates a themed album, but then.... perhaps the theme is being written out of something other than writer's block.

So this is not a fake leak attempt or anything like that. I just started to play around with OpenAI and in about 15 minutes I got this. Since it is a fun (and scary) activity that maybe others want to try, and I don’t want to overflow the speculation thread with this, I thought a separate thread could be a good idea. If not shut it down. For this I used chat.OpenAI.com. Everything has been generated by the AI (except the cover art for which I used another AI tool), using multiple prompts. 1972: Reckoning Through Time Out February 19 2023. Tracklist: 1. "Insomniac's Lament" 2. "Rebel's Melancholy" 3. "Blues for a Hyper Mind" 4. "Restless Nights" 5. "The Tyranny of routine" 6. "Anarchy in my Head" 7. "Escape Velocity" 8. "The weight of the world" 9. "Lost in the Noise" 10. "A Future Worth Fighting For" 11. "Hyperactive Heart" 12. "The Revolution That Never Was" Lyrics 1. "Insomniac's Lament" Verse 1: Tossing and turning, can't shake this feeling Eyes wide open, but my mind is reeling Counting sheep, but they don't seem to help I'm wide awake, trapped in this hell Chorus: Insomniac's lament, never ending A cycle of sleeplessness, unending My mind won't shut off, my thoughts keep spinning Insomniac's lament, never ending Verse 2: Checking my clock, it's ticking like a time bomb I'm counting down to a new day, but it feels so long I'm running on fumes, my energy is gone I'm just a shell of the person I once was, I'm so withdrawn Chorus: Insomniac's lament, never ending A cycle of sleeplessness, unending My mind won't shut off, my thoughts keep spinning Insomniac's lament, never ending Bridge: I'm just a ghost of the man I used to be Trapped in this cycle of insomnia, a prisoner of my own mind Outro: I close my eyes, but sleep eludes me Insomniac's lament, it's all I'll ever be. 2. "Rebel's Melancholy" Verse 1: I used to be a rebel, with fire in my heart Dreaming of revolution, tearing worlds apart But now the fire's gone out, and all that's left is pain A rebel's melancholy, driving me insane Chorus: Rebel's melancholy, it's all I've got The dreams of revolution, now seem like a cruel hoax I'm just a shell of the man I used to be Rebel's melancholy, it's all I'll ever be Verse 2: I remember the days, when I felt alive With a purpose and a fire, that burned so bright But now I'm just a shadow, of the man I used to be Lost in a sea of doubt, with no way to break free Chorus: Rebel's melancholy, it's all I've got The dreams of revolution, now seem like a cruel hoax I'm just a shell of the man I used to be Rebel's melancholy, it's all I'll ever be Bridge: I used to be a force to be reckoned with But now I'm just a ghost, in the shadows, I'm just an echo Outro: Rebel's melancholy, it's all I'll ever be An echo of the man I used to be. 3. "Blues for a Hyper Mind" Verse 1: My mind is racing, can't keep up with the pace A million thoughts, all vying for space I'm jumpy, I'm jittery, I'm wired and on edge I'm like a cat on a hot tin roof, just ready to break Chorus: Blues for a hyper mind, it's all I've got It's like a storm inside my head, that never stops I'm just a prisoner, of my own mind Blues for a hyper mind, it's all I'll ever find Verse 2: I'm on a roller coaster, that never stops Up and down, round and round, it's a never-ending hop I'm like a pinball, bouncing off the walls I'm a walking time bomb, ready to fall Chorus: Blues for a hyper mind, it's all I've got It's like a storm inside my head, that never stops I'm just a prisoner, of my own mind Blues for a hyper mind, it's all I'll ever find Bridge: I try to focus, but my thoughts keep slipping I'm caught in a cycle, of never ending tripping Verse 3: I'm on a hamster wheel, running in circles I'm in a prison, of my own mental hurdles The world is moving on, but I'm stuck in place I'm just a shell of the man, I used to be, a shadow of my own grace Chorus: Blues for a hyper mind, it's all I've got It's like a storm inside my head, that never stops I'm just a prisoner, of my own mind Blues for a hyper mind, it's all I'll ever find Outro: I'm just a slave to my own mind, A prisoner of the Blues for a hyper mind. 4. "Restless Nights" Verse 1: I lay in bed, staring at the ceiling My mind is racing, my thoughts are revealing All the things I did, all the things I didn't do All the times I failed, all the times I came through Chorus: Restless nights, never ending A cycle of sleeplessness, unending My mind won't shut off, my thoughts keep spinning Restless nights, never ending Verse 2: I close my eyes, and try to dream But all I see is darkness, and it's not what it seems I'm wide awake, my thoughts are on a loop I'm stuck in this cycle, and it's making me droop Chorus: Restless nights, never ending A cycle of sleeplessness, unending My mind won't shut off, my thoughts keep spinning Restless nights, never ending Bridge: I'm trapped in this cycle, of wakefulness A prisoner of my own thoughts, a witness of my own distress Outro: Restless nights, never ending All I've got is this cycle of sleeplessness, unending It's like a curse that's been cast upon me Restless nights, never ending, it's all I'll ever be. 5. "The Tyranny of routine" Verse 1: I wake up early, to the sound of the alarm I drag myself out of bed, feeling worn and warm I go through the motions, like a machine Just another day, in the tyranny of routine Chorus: The tyranny of routine, it's all I know A prison of repetition, I can't let go I'm trapped in this cycle, of monotony The tyranny of routine, it's all I'll ever see Verse 2: I go to work, and I do what I'm told I come back home, feeling old and cold I eat my dinner, and watch some TV Just another day, in the tyranny of routine Chorus: The tyranny of routine, it's all I know A prison of repetition, I can't let go I'm trapped in this cycle, of monotony The tyranny of routine, it's all I'll ever see Bridge: I'm living the same day, over and over I'm losing myself, in the chaos of a routine rover Outro: The tyranny of routine, it's all I know But I'll break free, I'll make it on my own I won't be a slave, to this cycle of monotony The tyranny of routine, it's not all I'll ever be. 6. "Anarchy in my Head" Verse 1: I met her at a protest, she was shouting out loud She had fire in her eyes, and a passion so proud She took my hand, and pulled me in And suddenly, there was anarchy in my head Chorus: Anarchy in my head, love took control All my doubts and fears, she took and made them whole She's my chaos and my calm, my shelter from the storm Anarchy in my head, and I never felt so warm Verse 2: We talked for hours, we laughed and we cried She saw through my walls, and never once lied She understood me, in a way no one could And suddenly, there was anarchy in my head Chorus: Anarchy in my head, love took control All my doubts and fears, she took and made them whole She's my chaos and my calm, my shelter from the storm Anarchy in my head, and I never felt so warm Bridge: With her by my side, I'm not afraid to fall She's my anarchy, she's my all Outro: Anarchy in my head, and I never felt so alive Withher by my side, I'll survive. 7. "Escape Velocity" Verse 1: I'm sitting here, staring out the window Watching the world, go by so slow I'm feeling trapped, in this life of mine I need to find, my escape velocity to shine Chorus: Escape velocity, that's what I need To break free from these chains, and take the lead I'll find my way, to the stars above Escape velocity, that's what I'm made of Verse 2: I'll spread my wings, and I'll fly away Leave behind, all my fears today I'll find my freedom, in the boundless sky Escape velocity, that's where I'll find my high Chorus: Escape velocity, that's what I need To break free from these chains, and take the lead I'll find my way, to the stars above Escape velocity, that's what I'm made of Bridge: I'll leave behind, the weight of the world I'll find my own path, and I'll be unfurled Outro: Escape velocity, that's what I'm chasing I'll find my way, and I'll start embracing My destiny, my escape velocity, it's mine to seize I'll be the master, of my own destiny. 8. "The weight of the world" Verse 1: I'm carrying the weight, of the world on my shoulders It's a heavy load, that's getting bolder I'm feeling the pressure, of all that I bear It's like a weight, that I can't repair Chorus: The weight of the world, it's all on me It's a heavy load, that I can't break free I'm just a man, but I'll do what I can The weight of the world, I'll carry it all Verse 2: I'm walking this path, with the weight of the world It's a heavy load, that's taking its toll But I'll keep on moving, with all that I bear I'll find a way, to release this weight I wear Chorus: The weight of the world, it's all on me It's a heavy load, that I can't break free I'm just a man, but I'll do what I can The weight of the world, I'll carry it all Bridge: I'll take it all on, I'll take it all in The weight of the world, I'll wear it like a grin Outro: The weight of the world, it's all on me I'll carry it all, and I'll set it free. 9. "Lost in the Noise" Verse 1: I'm lost in the noise, of the city street It's a constant chatter, that can't be beat I'm surrounded by, a million different sounds But it's just noise, with no meaning to be found Chorus: Lost in the noise, it's all that I hear It's a symphony, of chaos that's unclear I'm just a stranger, in this foreign land Lost in the noise, with no helping hand Verse 2: I'm searching for a signal, in the noise of the crowd I'm looking for a voice, that I can hear out loud Butit's just noise, and it's getting hard to hear I'm just a man, with a lot of fear Chorus: Lost in the noise, it's all that I hear It's a symphony, of chaos that's unclear I'm just a stranger, in this foreign land Lost in the noise, with no helping hand Bridge: I'm trying to find, a way to break free From this noise that surrounds me, it's all I can see Outro: Lost in the noise, it's all that I know But I'll find a way, to make it on my own I'll rise above, the chaos and the din Lost in the noise, but I'll come out with a grin. 10. "A Future Worth Fighting For" Verse 1: I'm standing here, looking at the world And I know that, there's a better way to unfurled I see the struggles, and the pain But I know there's a future worth fighting for, worth striving for Chorus: A future worth fighting for, that's what I see A world of hope, of equality A future worth fighting for, that's what I'll create I'll be the change, I'll make my fate Verse 2: I'll take a stand, against the injustices I'll raise my voice, and make a difference I'll be the light, in the darkest of days A future worth fighting for, it's just a step away Chorus: A future worth fighting for, that's what I see A world of hope, of equality A future worth fighting for, that's what I'll create I'll be the change, I'll make my fate Bridge: I'll fight for the oppressed, I'll fight for the poor I'll fight for a world, that's worth fighting for Outro: A future worth fighting for, that's what I'll do I'll make a stand, I'll see it through A future worth fighting for, it's my destiny I'll make a change, it's my legacy. 11. "Hyperactive Heart" Verse 1: My heart is beating, like a jackhammer It's never resting, it's always on the stammer I'm feeling alive, I'm feeling the rush But my hyperactive heart, it's like a double-edged brush Chorus: Hyperactive heart, it's always on the go It's a wild ride, I can never slow It's a love and a curse, this heart of mine Hyperactive heart, it's always on the grind Verse 2: I'm always on the move, never standing still Butmy heart's always racing, like a racecar thrill I can't slow down, I can't take it easy My hyperactive heart, it's just too damn breezy Chorus: Hyperactive heart, it's always on the go It's a wild ride, I can never slow It's a love and a curse, this heart of mine Hyperactive heart, it's always on the grind Bridge: It's a fire inside, that I can't contain It's a passion that burns, that cannot be tamed Outro: Hyperactive heart, it's always on the go It's a wild ride, that I'll never let go It's a love and a curse, this heart of mine Hyperactive heart, it's always on the grind 12. "The Revolution That Never Was" Verse 1: I remember the days, when we were young We had a fire in our hearts, and we sung Of revolution, and change to come But now, I see the revolution that never was Chorus: The revolution that never was, it's all that's left A dream that we had, that we couldn't make real Therevolution that never was, it's all that's left Of the fire that we once felt Verse 2: We were rebels, with a cause We were fighters, with a force But the world is not, as we thought it would be And the revolution that never was, it's all we can see Chorus: The revolution that never was, it's all that's left A dream that we had, that we couldn't make real Therevolution that never was, it's all that's left Of the fire that we once felt Bridge: We fought the fight, but we lost the war The revolution that never was, it's what we're fighting for Outro: The revolution that never was, it's all that's left A dream that we had, that we couldn't make real But the fight isn't over, the revolution lives on We'll keep the fire burning, until it becomes real. Melody descriptions: 1. "Insomniac’s lament" • The melody for the verses have a fast-paced, punk-inspired rhythm that matches the energy of the lyrics. The chorus melody have a catchy hook that's easy to sing along to. 2. " Rebel's Melancholy" • The verses have a more melancholy melody that reflects the struggles described in the lyrics. The chorus melody are more upbeat, with a sense of rebellion and fighting against the struggles. 3. "Blues for a Hyper Mind" • Verses melody have a sense of restlessness and agitation, with fast, choppy guitar riffs to match the lyrics. The chorus melody have a more melodic, soaring feel to reflect the idea of being a prisoner of one's own mind 4. "Restless Nights" • The melody reflect the feelings of insomnia and frustration. For verses, something slow and haunting. For chorus, something a bit faster and more desperate. 5. "The Tyranny of routine" • The melody reflect the monotony of everyday routine, verses with a monotonous beat with a guitar riff that matches the lyrics. Chorus with a more anthemic melody with an easy to sing along hook. 6. "Anarchy in my Head" • For the verses, a fast, melodic punk riff reflect the frenetic energy of falling in love. The chorus have a more melodic and upbeat melody that reflects the feelings of being in love 7. "Escape Velocity" • As a ballad, the melody is slower and more contemplative, with a sense of longing and yearning that reflects the lyrics 8. "The weight of the world" • A song that reflects the weight of responsibility, verses melody are slower with a repetitive guitar riff that reflects the monotony. Chorus with a more anthemic melody with an easy to sing along hook 9. "Lost in the Noise" • Verses melody have a chaotic, frenetic energy that reflects the feeling of being overwhelmed by noise. Chorus melody is more melodic and contemplative, reflecting the search for a signal among the noise. 10. "A Future Worth Fighting For" • The melody reflect the energy and determination of fighting for a better future, verses have a fast punk-inspired rhythm that matches the energy of the lyrics. The chorus melody have a powerful and anthemic hook that emphasizes the importance of fighting for a future worth having 11. "Hyperactive Heart" • The melody reflect the fast-paced energy of a hyperactive heart, verses have a fast-paced punk rhythm, with a guitar riff that reflects the lyrics. The chorus have a catchy hook that captures the feelings of a heart that can't slow down. 12. "The Revolution That Never Was" • As a ballad, the melody is slower and reflect the idea of a revolution that never happened and the feeling of the weight of the world on our shoulders.

I find it unlikely that they will be performing at When We Were Young Festival in October with all those bands without a new album in their bag. So I think the album will come out until October (probably September) but who knows...

This isn’t about that, this is a new query based on what she was told then. Updated info.

How about a Longshot follow up album?

Maybe we'll hear more about it from the band themselves soon. I'm sure there will be interviews promoting the Nimrod re-release.

Didn't we already get some inside information that they were already booking venues for a tour this year?

They don’t want to interfere with the Nimrod release and the dozens of copies it will sell.

Oh god, they did this... didn't they?

Or like FOAM. Damn that album is so frustrating. It’s not the style so much but the half assed nature of it. If they had only gone all in with fully complete songs and more tracks. It’s one underwritten track after another than I only start enjoying it by side two then it’s over.

I’d rather have to wait until it’s done rather than the project being pushed out the door half baked like the trilogy. So good news I guess?

Very. But he cautions that it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re still in the middle of recording, it just means still in the process so maybe they added a song and went back to the studio, are still working on a title, art concept, a tracklist, etc. So just that it’s still being worked on to some extent.

Nah

21st Century Breakdown is such a masterpiece. I would love to have every Green Day song rerecorded and remixed in the style of 21stCB 😍 (including all American Idiot songs, they sound so amazing on the album of the Musical)

It's not the full band version

I think he said probably 2023.

So 2024 release is likely then.