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Nothing will happen this year come on someone please close this thread for a while or at least until we have something REAL to speculate 🥱😑🙄4 points
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As much as I love to speculate and say “any day now”, I actually think we won’t get anything until after the Nimrod re-release, but maybe at least another teaser after the new year?2 points
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what do you mean? they announced yesterday that the new album will be coming out in December2 points
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1972 will be released in September 2023 and 1980's breakdown will follow 5 years later in May 20282 points
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I recently asked a black friend how they felt about white artists saying racist terms in songs that are meant to be anti-racist and she said, no. It should never be done, no matter the context. Now I wonder if this extends to film makers, novelists, etc. I know Stephen King always has a horribly racist monster in his stories and filmmakers do as well. Should they not have those things? Very interesting. Holiday and American Eulogy are two of the best songs ever, so it would be tough for me to let them go or alter them. If the songs in question were flippant, like say Bouncing off the Singular Wall, we'd be having a different situation.2 points
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I mean...that whole part of the song is clearly sarcastic, even noted by the announcement of who is speaking as well as the different pace and vocal filter. I think anyone who actually listens and has any comprehension skills can tell that the word isn't being used in a homophobic way. Billie is using that part of the song to portray the extremism that reacts from tragedy and the way people cut out anyone who disagrees with them. Holiday is one of his best songs, especially lyrically, and neutering it would take away from its value.2 points
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The American Eulogy line is controversial among fans due to the belief some people have that it isn't justified for a slur to be said by a person it hasn't been used against whatever the context. The same thing doesn't apply to Holiday. Billie Joe is openly bisexual and the f word is his to reclaim. So it's a different thing. In general it isn't considered a problem for members of an oppressed group to reclaim slurs that are used against them, including in song lyrics. If we're talking about people totally misinterpreting the song and not understanding that the line isn't literal then that's another thing. Shouldn't be a reason to censor it since half the lyrics could be misinterpreted if they were taken literally (eg "sieg heil!").2 points
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There are a few songs with lines that Billie Joe may or may not want back. One of them, American Eulogy, seems to have unfortunately died with the 21CB tour. As far as I know, it hasn't been played since the first show of the South American leg. Its dropping of an n-bomb seems to be confined to history more because the song wasn't exactly a hit than any other reason. The other song that might be a problem going forward is Holiday. It's pretty easily Green Day's most venomous song. The line in question, "Kill all the f..s who don't agree," doesn't exactly hit the same way in a society where homophobia is damn near encouraged by the country's leaders, and where the response to Club Q has consisted of a lot of, "So some gays died? So what? They won't be grooming my kids anymore." Is that line now problematic enough to say something else during the breakdown, or just drop the song entirely? As a counterpoint, My Chemical Romance continued playing Teenagers every night after Uvalde, so there's that. Also also, can he change the line to, "Kill off the fucking GOP"?1 point
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The ideal setlist is a setlist where they play the current setlist but instead the encore is the network1 point
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Just leave the Ideal Setlist alone. That's the only reason I'm here.1 point
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I don't think we will get any news today. They're probably all busy getting in on the Black Friday sales. Not me though. I'm more of a Cyber Monday guy. I shop online so I can vooo-ooote, at the speed of life.1 point
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Working on narrowing down pics for next year's calendar, and this pic popped up just as Blood, Sex, and Booze came on. That's all.1 point
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There are people out there saying actual hateful things and meaning them and those are the ones we should be focused on and concerned about. Direct your energies to stopping that.1 point
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How has this thread been so quiet! Has nobody seen the new Oakland Coffee posts or am I the only one who thinks Billie looks amazing!? I know we aren’t seeing a lot of his hair but blimey he looks good!1 point
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Hi all, just a friendly reminder to keep things on track here. I know that's hard when there's literally nothing to talk about most days in terms of actual updates, but hopefully that'll change soon! 🤞1 point
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It‘s not easy to replace a frontman. Thats why I think we will never see Linkin Park again. They try some things in the studio but thats it. Same with Green Day. They‘re friends for so long and even their families. You can‘t replace any of them and I dont want it.1 point
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😮 That fake Mike Dirnt looks exactly like this guy who cheated on his gf with me and didn't tell me he was in a relationship 😒1 point
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