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I just went through 16 pages or so in this thread and we’re still where we were months ago- And if I’m gonna add something myself, who cares if their new album doesn’t end up making it in the top 40? if anything, green day is always top one for me and that’s all I care about 2023 here we come

I hope Rob is pre-Trilogy Green Day Rob in this process. He has been a critical part of what we all love about Green Day's music and I think it'll be important for him to be a "no" guy and help shape this record. That TikTok video showing the interaction between him and Billie Joe gives me some hope that will be the case. With the last Green Day record he produced, the Trilogy, I think the whole three albums thing got in the way of allowing Rob to filter and have an impact on the songs, simply because of the amount of material. Getting things down to a standard album's worth of songs should allow him to do that. Anyway, I'm happy Rob is back at the helm and that Chris Lord-Alge is involved. This is absolutely nothing against Chris Dugan in terms of producing (non-engineering) and mixing, but you cannot match Rob and CLA who are legends at their craft.

I have total faith in them as well but remember they were also on the trilogy. I disagree about the RevRad comment though, better production isn't going to make it a cohesive album. The middle of the album lacks. Sparkling those songs up aren't going to make them better songs. Rev Rad is not a bad album overall, but it could be considered somewhat of an average or bad GD album based on them having an above average catalog of albums. I want to be cautious about my optimism for their next effort but I am acknowledging the steps they have taken by actually going into real studios and bringing back some key personnel from their previous successes. The songs and album still need to be cohesive though and there's a level of professionalism they will need to return to. The album cover shouldn't be made on Billie Joe's iphone this time, they should call an end to that era. They also may need to actually go out and promote the album, this whole low stress thing they've implemented from the trilogy is not going to help them at all. A success would be having about 2-3 lasting singles from the album in airplay rotation. FOAMF had two singles in rotation but they never were in the rotation together and were basically pulled shortly after release. Making a long story short: for 1972 to be a success Billie needs to write some songs, they need to be professional and most importantly no fucking ketchup font album covers!

While it's fun to see Green Day in the top 40 and be in the mainstream's good graces, I'll just be happy that there's a new album. Always look forward to new GD music!

While they are related terms, some people still don't know how to separate mixing with overall production of the record.

It's gonna be a hit for sure. I have total faith in Rob Cavallo and CLA, this going to be Green Day how they're meant to sound and it's gonna chart and everybody is gonna love and we're gonna be like fuck yes 👌 They won't reach AI level again obviously, because rock isn't as big as it was then -- but like, I reckon it's gonna be at least as successful as recent mainstream rock albums. Trust me people Green Day are fucking coming back and I'm so hyped. Imagine RevRad had AI level production -- that would've gone down as a legendary Green Day album. That's what we're in for

I personally don't think 1972 is going to reach Green Day's golden age which was 1994-2009. But I'd be very happy to be proven wrong In terms of commercial success, I don't see them getting to 21CB success, never mind AI/Dookie. Obviously, it's a given that in terms of pure album sales none of their pre-2012 albums will be surpassed just because of how the market is currently for album sales. But this album would need to make a big impact in terms of streaming, they would need to have at least 1 single reach 100 million streams on spotify at least fairly quickly and the non-singles would probably reach at minimum 10+ million within that same time (for comparison, Still Breathing is currently on 92 million since its release and the non-singles range from 11-26 million). Ik they'd probably get a lot of shit for it calling them a sell out but I wouldn't mind them collaborating with a well known artist or band in order to get a successful single as long as the artist(s) they collab with works well in the song But commercial success doesn't really matter. As long as the album is good, that's the main thing. I just can't see them reaching the peaks of Dookie, American Idiot & 21st Century Breakdown again. But again, I'm happy if I get proven wrong. I do want them to do something different. FOAMF was somewhat different but for me, the quality just wasn't there on the different songs or even a lot of the more Green Day sounding tracks. People point to Sugar Youth being one of the best tracks but it's still just standard Green Day imo, nothing more. I'd be pretty happy with an album which meets the quality of RevRad. While it's still far from my favourite album, it is still solid throughout the entire album even if there are tracks I don't particularly care for or if the peaks of the album don't reach the peaks of other albums

Time zones are nuts. So they flew out last night (Wednesday). It’s a 17 hour flight from LA (nonstop) with a 9 hour time difference. So when they arrive although it will be sometime late afternoon or early evening Thursday their time it will really be around midnight or later Friday morning local time so they skip Thursday entirely. Sleep for a day, acclimate for a day and the show is Sunday. No wonder they have to leave so early, and all for a single show. I imagine they’re being paid very very well.

Everyone is going to hate this post but it's true. Look at what happened with the Foo Fighters. I don't even see it bubbling under

You're definitely right. I do say most of that under the assumption that they're actually going to make an effort with the the entire record, i.e the promotion, album art, everything. Which I think they will if they've made a point of bringing back the best people to help with the record's production. Of course the songwriting needs to be good - and there I actually have no doubts to be honest? Again, as long as they actually try for the first time in a while to produce a proper Green Day record, Billie's songwriting judging by some of The Network stuff and The Longshot hasn't dwindled. Love is for Losers has some of my favourite writing since American Idiot to be honest so it's clear he's still capable. What you say about RevRad I half-agree with; although when I say with better production that kind of includes making the songs better? I'm not just talking about sonic production, I think a good producer would have heard what they had and said OK - that's a good start, now let's develop it from there and fix the weak spots. As a producer myself that's what I aim to do when people approach me with demos etc. and I think RevRad could've benefitted. I'm talking real record producers of course, Rob Cavallo, Butch Vig etc. Not Butch fucking Walker.

I remember the Trilogy cover photos were edited on their iPhones, and I have a theory that the Trilogy would’ve been much more successful if Billie didn’t meltdown at iHeart and then go into rehab. They would’ve been around to promote it, put out a few more singles and made proper music videos, instead of generic videos like Stray Heart with the guy with the heart head, and X-Kid, which was just a video of a cassette tape player. Yeah I only heard Father of All… once on my local alternative station (ALT 92.3 NY) and Oh Yeah maybe twice, and that was it. Listeners can text LIKE or DISLIKE to the station, so that’s probably what happened. But Weezer’s End of the Game, having been released on the same day, actually stayed in rotation for months

I'm watching that awesome video over on @96tomato and I think I've cracked the code of 1972. It just doesn't make sense as an album title or even a song title. Green Day are changing their name to 1972 in 2023, because Green Day's a stupid name that three pot heads came up with a hundred years ago, and that's not what Green Day are about. Green Day were a rock band. 1972's gonna be a wild n crazy punk band, even wilder than MAX CREEPS. whoa, it took me so long to remember MAX CREEPS. Yeah, 1972 are going to be better than those guys in every way. barf.

I highly doubt they will stop to making new records soon. Billie seems to be a workaholic composer.

I think is really hard to any new song compete to the classics, don’t matter how much good they are.

What we really need for 1972 to be a success is Frank Storm playing the drum and answering his goddamn text.

Funny enough, Still Breathing requires a lot of breathing as a singer and I'm pretty sure Billie Joe has some early COPD symptoms or something. I see a lot of people coming to terms with the bands age. I saw Rush at 50 and from an instrumental perspective it's way more physical especially on drums. They were great at 50 and they were even really good at 60. I'm definitely having issues personally with the band getting up there in age. It really sucks that they aren't in their primes anymore but theyre still too young for us to think of it as over. I don't know what happened after the trilogy tour but it just hasn't been the same effort from them since. That show in Spain when FOAM was coming out is more of what I expect from them at 50.

Mike from @batmansmom and the boys are on the way to Singapore

Do you see their next single debuting at number 1 on the Top 40 Billboard chart?

definitely, that's a thing to consider. then there's stuff like Platypus and CUNT where he probably was aware that stuff is pretty vile to say about someone, but they're both songs I enjoy even though I think he was being an asshole.

Lets start a rumour that Blink 182 are recording a nice album called “1973”..

At this point of Green Day's career, I doubt we are getting records more often. I think that every new record could be their last and we should prepare for that

It was packed and too physically difficult to achieve. Too much promotion all summer, they practically did an entire tour just promoting the record before the tour and the TV commitments were relentless too. It contributed to Billie's drug abuse and collapse. Over the summer they went to Europe then Japan, then England, then back to Europe again and then nonstop shows and appearances in the states with no breaks. They didn't know where they were or when and it screws with your ability to sleep among other things.

One of the changes they made after 2012 was fire their booking agent for the inhumane schedule they had

I can't go into a venue with my studded leather coat because it could be a weapon even though the studs are dull as shit but someone can bring a whole ass mannequin leg. Wtf.

Popular for collectors but in tiny numbers. They produce a few thousand of those where vinyl used to routinely sell in the hundreds of thousands or millions. It’s the rarity that makes them valuable and therefore desirable to collectors to want to buy and the amount of people that just buy vinyl to play is very small so they will always be printed in small numbers.

My fav time zone brain flip is leaving Fiji to fly to LA, a 10 hour flight, but you arrive before you leave! I am sure they are being paid very well F1 has a great deal of money.

Although they did have help on RevRad with mixing. It was mixed by Andrew Scheps

Yeah but they've gone back to their original style pre-Fergie

Yes, he has definitely flown close to the edge at times!

The boys are on their way Anyone on here attending the show?

Tré from @bubukittyfk From Kevin

Exactly. There has to be more than one level to it. I do think some lyrics Billie has written were in poor taste and don't reflect well on him, but that doesn't mean that it's comparable to people getting cancelled for committing actual crimes etc. As Anita Sarkeesian said: “It's both possible, and even necessary, to simultaneously enjoy media while also being critical of its more problematic or pernicious aspects.”

SO NOTHING IN 2022?!?!?! 😡

Could be, but they've historically been quiet over November and December (presumably for the holidays), so, again, don't expect anything until next year from an announcement perspective. On the other hand, there's no reason why tour dates couldn't get nailed down, promo plans developed, music video(s) shot, etc. Not saying this will happen, but if they're aiming for an early in the year release, planning would start soon.

Narrator: That was not the last time he had to say it

Home for a few days before Singapore

Yes to be clear it's trash because it's Daily Mail/paparazzi/body shaming disguised as an "article"! Not because of Billie's belly (❤️) No worries! They don't get photographed by the paparazzi much so it doesn't come up very often, just kind of an unofficial policy we have.

I think you guys are jumping to conclusions. Still Breathing is at the top of his range. I was shocked to hear that they even chose it as a single for that reason. You listen to a song like Jesus of Suburbia, the intro already sounds like the top of his range. That's a high F note. Still Breathing's chorus touches a G#. A whole step and a half above one of the highest notes he hit in recent years and a whole octave higher than the 90s era songs ever hit for the most part. Soooo....Billie may be out of his comfort zone with songs like Still Breathing, but he's actually been writing and performing some songs in recent years that have MORE physicality and range than what he's used to.

I wish one more event would be added to F1 in Japan. They haven't come to Japan for 10 years now 😢

Black Eyed Peas are still around?