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My expectations are as high as Billie's voice in the Father of All single.

I buy CDs or digital copies and that's it. I don't stream music either. I'm so glad Green Day is not working with Butch Walker again! He just seems like such an ass on top of not bringing out the best in them artistically.

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That makes a lot of sense to me. What wouldn't make sense to me is the band initially recording these demos and deciding that the albums that we ended up getting sounded better without all the added elements that many of the demos offer. I don't see any reason why the band would decide to strip them out and then purposefully ship a much more bland sounding product. A tiny bit more of these elements in the actual albums would have done so much to help them be received better in my honest opinion and would have done wonders to my personal rankings of them... The vibes I am getting from 1972 right now are similar to the trilogy, but with the band learning from those mistakes and working hard to not make the same ones again. I am fine with this and I believe that as of right now, it's a huge step in the right direction for the band.

Some of Billie's old Instagram posts

remember when we got the hints/news that foam will re-use the AI album cover? we all know how this turned out .. i am hyped, but after foam i set my expectations low until i hear a first single

I could see a couple of AI songs being used as reference tracks. But that would be more for the overall sound they're trying to capture than anything else. It's not necessarily indicative of the theme of the album. I'd buy that they have a story to tell, sure. The concept just isn't going to be a rock opera this time around.

I've never seen this interview/Q&A. It kind of looks like 21CB era and judging by lack of Tre's tattoos it could be around that time.

Good to know I'm not the only person in the world who still buys CDs lol

Green Day live is unlike anything else you've ever seen. They bring an energy and have a connection that absolutely can't be matched.

coming back to it after a while, i’m once again amazed how beautiful the lyrics on this album are

Seeing Green Day live cleanses my soul. If you’re a fan there’s nothing like it. Becoming one with the crowd, all singing along, jumping and screaming your head off. Seeing them in person and being that close to them. Hearing them perform the songs that are so good on the records but being there in the moment and hearing them play is just… perfect. I love waiting in line with fellow fans before the show, making new friends. There’s an electricity in the air. I always leave with my voice hoarse, very sweaty, and very happy to be alive. And then sleep the best nights sleep. I feel lighter for weeks afterwards. Would recommend

Am I the last music fan on earth that buys music still and doesn’t stream it??

1972 BC, so even further back. It's about how phat the Assyrian empire was. And of course, a party record.

I think 1972 will be more about them. What's the point of writing a song about something that happened 50 years ago?

I thought the school talent show was Billie on his own?

Hey all, I looked in the Unreleased & Rare section of this forum and was surprised to see this unique remix of 2000 Light Years Away was not included. Link to lossy version: This mix is remarkable for being spread out wider, brighter, and having the backing vocals be more prominent, and is to my knowledge the only proper multi-track remix of a Kerplunk track. Due to licensing issues it's unavailable for streaming in its respective album online. Does anyone have this song in lossless quality to share? Thank you!

I think you are right about it being Trilogy era but think there were a few of these short interview type things.

You guys can try using a VPN no access Globoplay. Set it to a server in Brazil

Green Day show starts 12:10PM Brasilia time The show will be broadcasted at 'Multishow' a cable tv channel here in Brazil. As @Karol Oliveira mentioned above, The show is also streamed va GloboPlay, which is a streaming service we have here, I Just checked and it doesn't work internationally

From @bubukittyfk

I think they're going for something much bigger than that. I'm getting American Idiot vibes!!! And Homecoming and Whatsername are even playing in the background of 2 of the teasers!!!

Omg this photo of Mike https://thisisjoy.tumblr.com/post/693780556459147264

RevRad Tour Photos - Dylan Bornschlegel

I buy CDs as I like to have a physical copy of albums, I transfer them onto my IPod. I also listen to music on Spotify, although it’s mainly songs that I don’t have on my IPod that I listen to on Spotify. I’ve also used Spotify as a means to try an album before I buy it.

I don't even know how to stream music tbh

Well, I buy CDs, too. I use Amazon Music in my car.

We do know there were some guitar overdubs done to the demos before Demolicious was released but after the trilogy albums came out. And that doesn’t even count the Otis Mixes.

Streaming numbers for FOAM on Spotify are ridiculously low for a band of this size.

Anyone else notice he said "Billie Joe had produced the last ten years worth of Green Day records himself with the band". The only self-produced album they made was RevRad. Rob was with them during the trilogy. It had been 8 years since the trilogy so maybe he's rounding up to 10 but if he was trying to say "They've been self-producing since after the trilogy", it seems weird to say "Billie Joe had produced the last ten years worth of Green Day records himself with the band" when they only released one Green Day album between the trilogy and FOAMF (along with a couple of new songs like Xmas Time of the Year and Back in the USA) I've been critical of FOAMF but I've never singled out Butch as the culprit of the album's failure. I think it was mostly down to the band most likely. But this definitely seems like he's making excuses He's acting as if there's like no metrics for an album's success nowadays because people don't buy albums. People still listen to albums. They still stream, they still play songs on radio, there are still charts and FOAMF didn't do very well in any of these metrics in terms of album performance or singles performance. Any metrics they did do well in like reaching no. 1 on the US Rock Airplay charts are metrics they did just as well in on RevRad and/or the trilogy. Also if he's saying that FOAMF was more successful than 21CB, I just don't know what world he's living in. The album that housed 21 Guns? The album that won a grammy for best rock album? The album that had a lot of new interesting sounds that a lot of fans didn't hate but actually loved it for? FOAMF wasn't even NOMINATED for anything It seems like he's taking advantage of the fact that people don't really know what makes an album successful nowadays since people don't buy albums. But if you just look at chart positions or streaming numbers for all the album tracks on spotify, they're not doing well. Yes, rock music doesn't perform as well currently but even taking that into account, it still doesn't look good

You heard her. Apparently all the albums connect together when you just randomly insert the album titles into some random sentence that you construct

I wouldn't be surprised if some of these trilogy "demos" were actually recorded after the trilogy actually released. I strongly believe that the arrangements for songs like Baby Eyes and 99 Revolutions were actually vastly improved on Demolicious and having things like the bass intro and key change respectively added some much needed life, energy and realization to the songs. They ended up using the same arrangement for 99 Revolutions on tour, which I think further adds credibility to this theory. When it comes to concept albums, I'd be very surprised if demos didn't involve doing drafts of the entire album to make sure it flows well and fits together. I don't see how any artist could make a true masterpiece of work without having at least one draft beforehand.

I was with him til he started just plain lying. I have no problem with FOAM being Billie’s vision, nobody hits gold 100% but the later part of what he says is just nuts.

Every music fan should see Green Day live at least once in their lifetime. It’s a unique experience and hella fun.

I know he can’t just go “oh yeah so this was a huge project I did and it flopped” but he sounds absolutely delusional

Fuck Butch

Prior to recording, Green Day rented rehearsal space in Oakland. Armstrong invited Cavallo to attend the sessions and help guide their writing processes. Cavallo encouraged the idea of a concept album, recalling a conversation the two had a decade prior, in which Armstrong expressed his desire for their career to have a "Beatles-like arc to their creativity." During the sessions at Studio 880, Green Day spent their days writing material and would stay up late, drinking and discussing music. The band set up a pirate radio station from which it would broadcast jam sessions, along with occasional prank calls. The band demoed the album sufficiently so that it would be completely written and sequenced before they went to record. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Idiot

“I was stoked because obviously, it was their most successful record since American Idiot, in a time where you can’t follow that, you can’t follow a “lightning in a bottle” moment where a band sells 10 million plus on a record. Everybody’s waiting for you to top it and you just can’t. I’m not even saying sales-wise, sales don’t even exist anymore, so that’s not a factor, it’s more just radio hits.” Is he being sarcastic? I never heard these songs on the radio. Yeah some singles charted but the rock charts are thin and they did nothing compared to the singles of RevRad and Oh Love was Billboard Hot 100. Also he’s including 21CB?? That won a Grammy and had two huge singles? He’s full of shit. “But we did it on our own terms, and we did it without a label, and we did it without anyone in our way.” Again he’s insane. Without a label? It was their last album under an old contract with Warner. They couldn’t shut up about that in the interviews. Haha he pulled the same shit with Weezer’s Pacific Daydream, another pop album hated by the fans. It’s almost word for word the same excuse: “Again, I was trying to let an artist do what their vision is and what they want to do, as opposed to trying to come in with a seasoned band like that and tell them how they should sound. Everybody is trying to get into the studio and remake Pinkerton, everyone. I know plenty of those people and I know plenty of times it’s been attempted. Again, lightning in a bottle, you can’t do it.” “But the fans who are fucking awful will just hate everything they do if they don’t try to do Pinkerton, which is very narrow-minded and one-sided, but also, again, here we go, don’t shoot the fucking producer! Because I do what the artist wants me to do for them. Whether or not they think that’s true or not is on them”

The first version is superior.

Behind the Boards with Butch Walker: Producer Talks Taylor Swift, Weezer, Green Day and More https://consequence.net/2022/08/butch-walker-interview-taylor-swift-green-day-behind-the-boards/2/

Tbf AI is more than twice as long as FOAMF, even disregarding the B-sides/bonus tracks on the album. But you can't really use "length of time an album took to record" as a metric to determine what quality should be expected from an album. For all we know those albums could've had big gaps within that time frame where they didn't really do anything. It's possible that during the AI recording period that they recorded for 4 months, took a 2 month break, then did another 4 months, then had a break for another month, then did 1 last month. We don't really know. And maybe the band spent the entire 4 months of recording FOAM on working on the album

Took this pic 5 years ago today (aka the pre-undershirt era, as you can clearly see )

That's actually the JEL studios in Costa Mesa. I went there once (just the outside of it) and recognized where this exact clip from Cuatro took place

He does do that. There was another private event for Cisco last year that was over Zoom. I think it's common for artists to take these gigs and they keep it kind of quiet.

Lol I seriously hate how we've been repeating the exact same things since February (including this statement)

I'm not comfortable saying FOAMF is a good album. It's definitely a bad Green Day album. Saying it's a bad album though, I can't say whether I agree with that or not. What I will say though is I can't blame people for thinking it is a bad album. There are definitely tracks there which to this day I just can't understand the band making and saying "Yeah this is fine, put it on the album". It has good tracks but even these tracks are tracks that aren't that good by Green Day standards. Even these tracks have at least one element that makes them not as good as they could be whether that be feeling too short/incomplete, lacking originality, lacking good production, random high pitched vocals I don't think my hopes for 1972 are as high as some people here but I think it will probably be better than FOAMF. It'll probably be a RevRad type album, an album which is solid but doesn't reach the peaks of AI or 21CB. Which is ok, not many albums can reach those peaks I consider 1994-2009 to be the golden era of Green Day. It's Green Day doing what they do best. I think during that time, they were very particular about the quality of each song, every song they released had to meet a certain bar to be released. Since the trilogy, it seems like that bar has been lowered as there have been a number of songs that I think don't meet that threshold

I just hope 1972 has a consistent vibe or feel to it. Most of their albums nail a specific feeling and sound. FOAM felt all over the place like a compilation.

Random photos from the Hella Mega North American Tour 2021

During yesterdays Match of the Day they used Father of All (the song) as a clip of music.

😭😭😭 Why is TikTok getting all the content now? Attention Green Day I refuse to get a TikTok!! This one is cool: