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Is gd1972_fan a relative of our own GDfan2019?

He has the whole suit! It's hideous not gonna lie I guess Tré did go to clown school!

I didn't recognize the logo. The whole thing just looked like something a clown sees in a fever dream

They should just surprise release it. Don't say anything, just drop it.

that's their dad

Announcement this album release that, get Billie some foundation that actually fits his skin tone

Though I think things are a bit more complicated, I largely agree. In some ways, it’s amazing that they were even able to ride the wave for that long. Most bands enter and exit what you could call their peak much more quickly. There’s also a few points I’d like to add: The trilogy had massive potential. The band definitely put an insane amount of effort into 21CB (mostly production-wise, I mean just listen to how many different layers, sounds and effects each song has), but it very nearly distroyed them (certainly Billie). I love how they sounded live in 09/10, but it’s hard to ignore that things were starting to go wrong behind the scenes, already then. The trilogy was therefore intended to be the logical next step, that is to say, a return to a more stripped down and light-hearted, tongue-in-cheek Green Day. Part of this could be felt at the beginning of the trilogy tour. It was an exciting time to be a Green Day fan. Unfortunately, the execution sucked, big time. And I honestly blame Cavallo for this too. For whatever reason, he either didn’t put his foot down (quite likely, seeing what he knew the band was capable of) or made all the wrong decisions, but either way, the end product came across as overblown, ill-judged and even spiritless in some areas, which coupled with the iHeart incident made for a complete PR disaster. RevRad was, as a packaged-deal, already a lot better, but it lacked the edge, punch and finish to make a GD record really shine and that is also down to production. In terms of where FOAM went wrong, I would agree with your points, but once again, I think production plays a huge role. And I don’t like any of Walker’s previous work, so this isn’t surprising to me. In many ways, the trilogy, RevRad and FOAM all seem like (well-intentioned) overcorrections. First it was, “hey it was a lot of fun making another epic AI style rock opera, but damn that was exhausting too, let’s go have some no-strings-attached fun with our next record” (*escalates*). Then it was, “ok, so people kinded hated all three albums with a passion, so how about we play it safe and make a classic Green Day album, but do it ourselves to have full control” (*lacks oomph and finish*). Lastly it was, “ok, so people kinda liked that, but compared to how much work we put in, it’s not doing as well commercially as we’re used to, we’re struggling to sell out arenas and some people said we were playing it too safe, guess it’s time to wing it yall looolllz”. Part of me thinks the band realised this, so whilst I’m not getting my hopes up too much, I am still interested to see where they’re going to take things for the upcoming record.

I don’t know if you can standardize a green day song… i mean, here comes the shart has everything you would expect a green day song to have and yet…

Oh, sick- the forum got scooped by a fan Insta 🥴

Well it aint complete then is it ?

Can we have an announcement for godsake

Idk, am I the only one who sees a massive potential for ridicule in the concept of a punk museum in Vegas of all places? edit: imagine googling “green day las vegas” 😭

Look closer, the two tops are different, he has at least 3 pieces of that collection.

If Billie had wanted the big bucks though then why would he have toured shitty clubs in the US with The Longshot that probably barely broke even? Just a thought

That would make sense as a reason for the creators to not want their participation but they did want it. Maybe GD are happy getting a little exhibit and ceding space to what they consider more influential bands that came before them.

Maybe they don't trust Fat Mike to handle the money 😄

Ah my favorite topic: The mess of the FOAM era. I get both sides of the argument here. On the one hand, I understand why people don't like it. I understand what people mean when they say it's a low tier GD release or it's a not a good GD record. And no, it's not their best. It doesn't have any deeper meaning for me and it's not a deep record. And that's fine. But holy shit the marketing was bad. If anything I'm fine with the record, but I HATED Crush's marketing. I don't care what the band says, Hella Mega was not their idea and you can't convince me otherwise. Maybe they wanted to do a monsters of rock type of thing, but I HIGHLY doubt they wanted to do it with Weezer and FOB. That being said, is FOAM a good record? Yeah, I think so! Is it their best and can it stand up to their other records? Not at all and that's okay! It's a dumb, fun album and it's okay to have music that's just nonsensical fun every once in a while. Do I think GD can do better? Yes, I know they can, but to me it sounded like they were actually having fun here. For years, I felt GD were living in the shadow of AI, constantly trying to top that or reach those heights. With FOAM, it felt like they went fuck it and just did what they wanted. Plus, it did see them try some new things - nothing earth shattering, but new for GD. But I agree that I still want them to put their all into a record. Though I don't think GD should just always take their music super seriously. If they want to make a dumb party record, cool. If they want to make something that's more complex and has deeper meaning? Awesome! I'm here for it. I just don't want GD to be all serious, all the time. I definitely agree with @Clockwise about people trying to fit GD into whatever box they want. I hated all the cries of this isn't a real GD record!!! It's not the GD record you wanted and that's okay. It's fine you don't like, but I also think people are overreacting when they treat FOAM as the worst thing they ever heard. And as @Insomniac1984 stated, there's a good chance people will change their mind about FOAM. It's happened with every single GD release. All it takes is for the latest album to drop for people to go, actually the previous album isn't that bad/is underrated.

Nah fuck that shit. FOAM is a good Green Day record and a good record in general. If it's not your cuppa tea, that's fine. But I think people get hung up trying to fit Green Day into a box of their own creation. When in reality Green Day is whatever the three of them want it to be. When they want to take a left turn, they will!

He does do that. There was another private event for Cisco last year that was over Zoom. I think it's common for artists to take these gigs and they keep it kind of quiet.

I really hope that GD play arenas on the next tour and that it’s a while before GD tour sports stadiums again. As good as the actual Huddersfield HM gig was the venue couldn’t cope with the number of people, the stewards didn’t know where peoples entrance's were, there was a lack of both male and female toilets (loads of guys were peeing in the street after the gig), and there was a lack of food options (cheeseburger, hot dog, crisps, or chocolate bar) to cater for people who were there for 6 hours.

That’s the no divorce bonus

Well Billie Joe is following them on instagram, so at least he is interested.

I swear I remember Cavallo told a fan this exact thing if someone can find it in this godforsaken thread. It was before they left for tour in June. Then can we stop debating this endlessly?

https://www.instagram.com/p/Chmp3nEOaaY/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

Lol I seriously hate how we've been repeating the exact same things since February (including this statement)

Yeah thats what I thought with „location“.

Maybe because Fat Mike is a douchebag

I really hope something happens soon. It’s been almost year or more of teases. It is probably going to be better than Here Comes the Shock or Pollyanna. If not this is not worth all this speculation. So glad about the Chicago shows with the surprise set list and snippet of Oh Love. Hopefully that is a hint of things to come.

From Jason White

That sweater is Mr. Rogers, Rick Nielsen and Tron all at once and it's... ...holy Toledo, it's $1500

CLA posted a pic with Tre

I suppose there is a risk of it becoming a GD museum given their profile as opposed to the likes of Pennywise say.

This absolutely was a schtick Not sure if it was planned (I suppose there’d be more publicity if it was), but it definitely wasn’t a fit of rage

Maybe they feel they aren’t a museum piece just yet

Not sure why they are highlighting the RevRad tour here yet the audio is a song from 21CB. Why not a RevRad song? Aw nice feature here for Papa Cool

Can't believe this flew under my radar. Thanks for sharing!

I think they're the same incident. It happened at one of the shows on the Summer North American RevRad Tour I think it's here This shows it better https://fb.watch/f3tYfT_W4J/

Oh yes, that was a mess!

https://www.instagram.com/p/ChlJ3F6vs6S/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

I was one of the people huddle around him when he was hitting the car. I have the video somewhere. I'm not sure if it was staged, but everyone in the area was laughing about it when he did it. If you look at the swings too, they definitely seemed a bit weak. Then again, he's swinging this guitar and could've easily hit someone in the head. I'm sure he realized that and had to work around that.

It wasn't. The videos were pretty funny even at the time and no one made any kind of thing about it. I think Billie just had a momentary anti-capitalist impulse seeing the sponsor car sitting there alongside the audience. He decided in the moment to take a swing at it. He didn't even make a dent which caused Mike to make a funny comment at the time about how "Subarus are rock solid!" It was funny and no one cared.

Fixed it

The bolded part reminded me the times when WARNING was released... so many people hated that record. However, I enjoyed it almost the whole record. Time went by, and now tracks I considered bad/meh like "Misery" or "Hold On" are underrated GD gems. Maybe, and I just say maybe, this could happen to FOAM. Nowadays it has happened to the Trilogy, too.

Wow! I was waiting for "and then we made fake red wristbands that brought us backstage with the bands and got in a limo with lot of booze and woke up in the same bed as Billie in a unknown hotel room."

My dad, who has zero interest in music, loves 21 Guns. It's a song that's helped him get through his cancer treatments. I'll never forget driving him home after a particularly bad day of chemo and he was basically passed out in the backseat of my car. 21 Guns came up on my shuffle and he hoarsely asked me to, "Turn it up." Fast forward to last year and we got to enjoy this song together at Hella Mega in Detroit. ❤️

And a song like Waiting is what makes me debate my favorite Green Day song. I LOVE IT SO MUCH.

So glad theyre doing waiting, we have a song from every album from dookie to 21st cb at least

They need cut this KISS cover