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I think there's a lot of confusion between production and mixing + mastering around here. Production decisions, imo, let FOAM down - whether that was Butch Walker's doing or Green Day's (or as all evidence seems to point, both). When I say that I mean the creative decisions made in the recording process to realise the songs written, i.e very different sounding guitar tones from previous albums, hand claps, synth sounds etc. This is where I think Revolution Radio is miles ahead of FOAM, with the band producing themselves and choosing to go in a more 'Green Day' direction with a lot of Who influences and massive sounding guitars. From a mixing (+mastering) point of view FOAM sounds great -- much less smashed by limiters during mastering, and things like vocals generally sound more well recorded and have fewer glaring issues with balance and certain harsh frequencies which RevRad suffers from. Personally I have no reason to believe that Butch Walker couldn't produce a more 'Green Day' sounding record if that's what the band wants, although I must admit I'm not super familiar with any of his work outside of FOAM so obviously not a great start. Mainly just hope they go back to a more organic sound, with less compressed drums and bigger guitars.

He told me to fuck off before FOAM when I made a comment about what I hoped the record would be (to be fair - prob not my place to say that to him, but it was pretty direct 😂)

I would definitely put Nimrod as Billie's best pre-AI era. Also, anytime I see any of those duct taped pics, I picture the conversation of, "So what did you do at work today?" "Oh, I duct taped Green Day together. How about you?"

This is a really interesting picture of Billie. I love the double earrings! He's pretty in a different way than he became during AI onward.

https://whatculture.com/music/10-most-underrated-rock-albums-of-the-90s-2 Quite short piece about Insomniac.

Hannover,Germany - 2010 Last nine photos by Martin Steiner for https://www.haz.de/Mehr/Bilder/Green-Day-rockt-Hannover

We miss you, Mr. Cavallo.

He’s making a good choice imo… he doesn’t need to deal with people telling them they didn’t like whatever he just released

Every time someone says that, I think "well that's just a stupid thing to do". It makes them look bad and is kind of a fuck you to the fans. Which is why I don't think that's what they did. I think they liked what they were making at the time and had a lot of fun creating and recording the songs together and that's why they made it

I’m hitting the optimistic point of the Butch walker news… the clips we’ve heard have been short but sound nothing like FOAM. Maybe everyone learned a lesson, and if Butch can just effectively capture new Green Day ideas maybe it will still be a great return to form

I think Billie hires him as someone who is even worse at dealing with the public opinion/clap screapegoat

i would argue that sugar youth is another one with green day vibes

I really cannot get these quality critiques on FOAM’s mixing. I do get that the approach is quite different from anything they’ve done before, probably especially when it comes to drums, and with that comes the fact that fans can dislike it (totally fair and to be expected). But if we talk about mixing quality I still think those songs sound way better than anything they’ve published since 21CB. Especially when compared to RevRad. If they have to change direction again with the next record, I surely hope they will not go back to that. IMHO having fresh external inputs in the production and mixing side of things did good to this band, I hope to see that in the future rather then another 10 years of self produced records. Then, do I want the same creative direction they took with FOAM for the next record(s)? Probably not, but that’s all up to the band.

Same🥰 he is so gorgeous in it😊

I think Tre spotted her first, he’s shared her posts twice now I think. Don’t see it being an album cover but who knows, guess they could approach her.

Well said!

If you think they made the record sound like shit on purpose, not enough 🙃

Here’s what I think. Knowing FOAM was their last album with Warner, they made it sound as shitty as possible (by their standards anyway, as it’s still a pretty good album, just not maximum Green Day). Then in an interview, Billie said, “Maybe we’ll put out another album next year before the tour.” Then of course the pandemic delayed everything. I’m thinking he had all the 1972 songs written and ready to record, but decided to record the 3 singles first (HCTS, Pollyanna, and Holy Toledo) and decided to line this new record up with their 50th birthdays this year!!!

it’s the most of a reaction you can get in the era of Billie practicing restraint on Instagram

I bought it and it's absolute crap. Nothing new in there. TV and radio broadcasts.

Think ep, but maybe we'll be surprised and get a lp

I’m waiting on the Billie Joe Gibson 2006 reissue. That guitar is amazing. I want one so bad.

30 Years Ago Green Day’s ‘Kerplunk!’ Showed Where They Were Headed https://www.popmatters.com/green-day-kerplunk-atr30

I have a theory about that song that I can’t talk about on GDC because of the forum guidelines.

Never listened to this on CD, so I can’t comment on that, but Butch Walker is the producer of the record, Brian Lucey did the mastering. Edit: sorry, I’m a bit drunk and misread your post, thought you were atributing the mastering to him

No they did not try to make it sound shitty, he said FOAM was the most proud he’s been of any GD single. HCTS was FOAM leftover. It also was not them not trying it’s just uninspired songwriting. But there is not this master plan, and they’re still with Warner for distro

I loved RevRad but it was clear to me they definitely could’ve used the help on the mixing process. The volume seemed to be too low in some places like the intro to Too Dumb To Die. Ironically, Tré was featured at the beginning of the Oh Yeah video saying, “I’m gonna show you guys how to play our new song, Oh Yeah!”

Maybe they recorded "stay" and that IS why Billie posted "sweet children Next album cover"

I had a dream the other night about a Green Day concert and it was an amazing show. It was incredibly entertaining and had a lot of variety, both with songs and shenanigans. I wish I could remember all the details. Billie was really interactive with the audience and was being a goofball and having a lot of fun.

I love most cartoon styles, but the anime style she does is the cutest. Her speed and attention to detail in the images and expressions are impressive

"1972: Butch Walker's Revenge (It's Sweeter than Wine)" ba da bing, ba da boom

I think Butch is a very good musician and his signature sound matches his own songs perfectly. I just don't like how the signature Green Day sound gets lost when they work with him. It doesn't sound very alive and just dead and overproduced. I also think that FOAM would have been a way better album if they kept it simple.

Man why, I understand that he is their friend but this project is very important... At least I hope it's different this time. 😔

He did comment on the original post by tre though which makes me still quite pessimistic

Have they learned nothing?

Butch Walker replying to Tre Cool: Me:

This is still a cool photo - Billie and Tre in leather jackets and Mike in leather pants

New album cover by BJ (again) confirmed Oh no... I'm getting FOAM feelings

Kansas 2009

Some random Billie pics

Here's a couple more I found from the same show and on this one just how does Billie get those pants to stay up

I was looking back at some pictures I'd saved on my old phone and found it hidden amongst some screen shots. I must've saved it to post but didn't. I found this lovely photo too. I'll have to see what else is there

This is a lovely photo of Billie performing

Glasgow 2010

Hamilton, ON 2009 I loved all those shirts with the patches

LA 2009

I'm never sure if liking someone else posting my photos is like liking my own post, but they are great photos, so... That tour

Minneapolis 2009