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who is jeff?

I have a crush on badly dyed blond Perry Miller

Seen some posts regarding the fact that she cheated on him, and I gotta say so what? While I dont condone cheating by any means, ive noticed this is one of the main points in conversation. People cheat, it happens. By no means should it condone the behavior from some fans, considering they werent the ones affected and is by no way an excuse to harass someone in the first place. What happens in a relationship should really stay between the couple involved, and seeing fans involved in their dirty laundry is pretty embarrassing. Plus hes fuckin old wtf is with the age gap.

@Nightlife I love them too, you know there’s this one too, also them discussing track by track on the radio audio is fun.

These are definitely from recording Dookie at Fantasy Studios and Billie doesn't have dreads. Interesting photos anyway though it's a shame the quality's so bad. These are recording Nimrod. The hair on the mystery photo is still more like Nimrod but then he's a bit thinner on it, so I don't know. Not that it really matters but hey, now I've found a cool interview about the making of Nimrod!

That was one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen if not reality but I’m still laughing. ***I thought this topic was “off limits”. That article is the one I posted in the thread that went out of control. Jeff looks different but she really is about as nice as they come. I am SURE his apology is real and not to save face and also he had a REALLY bad year. The GD with politicians post had me in stitches too so thanks for making me laugh GD fans. Just realized this was BH so she won’t even see my appreciation.

I really shouldn't have bought this because I couldn't really afford it but it's so pretty ...

Billie with glasses 😍

All the time (no pun intended!) We used to have one in the village where I live that started "BJA"

@Nightlife Certainly an interesting variation, although I also like the studio version a lot (and the way it's replicated live since around mid/late 2000s). I think it was best executed here at the BBC Sessions (although there is a slight lack of base in the mix). The best of both worlds, almost. It's just breathtaking though how good they sound in those sessions, but it does also demonstrate that "When I Come Around" kinda needs two guitars to give it enough "oomph". That's the one thing I didn't like about some of 90s and early 2000s live Green Day: They had a lot of energy, yes, but there were some songs that just screamed for a second guitar ("Basket Case" and "When I Come Around" being two examples). Although that being said, when the Plexis were adjusted correctly on stage, the songs sounded very awesome even with just one guitar.

Don't remember ever seeing this one before. Billie recording Dookie at Fantasy Studios in Berkeley, where he also recorded Look For Love. ‘Fantasy Studios definitely had that Seventies coke-y vibe, mahogany and strange dead wood around the place. We would go into the vaults and see all of Creedence Clearwater Revival’s master tapes. But I felt we belonged there. Our first album cost $700 to make. Kerplunk! was like $1200. “Let’s record these as fast as we can – because we don’t have a choice.” This time, I learned how to dial in good sounds, get the best guitar tones. I was able to take a little time doing vocals. I loved that experience.’ (source)

Whoa I just found out how much of a creepy and abusive dude Jeff is, I think there should be a thread for this whole situation (i didn't find one but saw it's being discussed here). I found out by accident and other fans should know about this too. He should face the concequences.

i love green day, they're my favorite band

I’m amazed it’s taken so many people this long to come to this conclusion tbh.

Jason White will be playing in Oakland on Sunday night. Wasn't sure where to put this as it didn't relate directly to GD so am leaving it here:

Good call, that they have at least some input and Billie helped them to shape them into the record. I like this idea, it would be a good interview question for Billie or one of the boys. If true, it would also makes sense of something I had thought, which is that there feels like a mismatch between some lines. I couldn't explain this well so hadn't commented previously, and still can't, it's just a feeling!

oh noooo now i can't envision that! Tre would be a precious Zodiac Killer over Ted Cruz.

Is this definitely Dookie? The pics I've seen of them recording it show him with dreads. He looks more Nimrod era here. Edit: Whoops, I didn't see the other responses. I agree with @pacejunkie punk.

I have oftened listened to the intro to WICA on repeat.

Idk, they could have just thrown a random studio photo in there.

That photo looks late for Dookie. I’ve seen others from that time with Rob Cavallo and Billie had the dreadlocks still.

This has even been made into a news article now: http://www.alternativenation.net/green-day-member-calls-out-girlfriend-cheating-on-him/ I'm so sorry you had to go through this

Of course they do, we have established that Tre is the Zodiac Killer

When you hear your co-worker say his kids were bouncing off the walls and have to refrain from telling him there's only one wall.

That's interesting! It could be about being the "minority" so to speak. I've said this many times but that's one of the things I love about Billie's lyrics - how different people can find completely different things in them. I've always interpreted Turn Me Loose as a song about trying to be triumphant in the face of a relationship ending, but then I also hear a few of the lyrics differently like "pride" being "bride": "Don't let your ponytail get out of line, I got a feeling on my mind," stop and pay attention to me, because I have something to say; "I'm on the spectrum and the borderline, I got the shakes but I'm alright," I'm dealing with my own issues but I'm alright, already trying to insist he's fine despite how the person has made him feel, when in reality he isn't. "Turn me loose, I'm only gonna stagger," meaning you can leave me, I'll only "stagger," it won't hurt too much; "April fool's and I'm not a runner," I'm already a fool anyway, so whatever; just "don't call me a loser with dumb tattoos" and hurt me, but "it doesn't matter," pretending he doesn't care, which is kind of sarcastic because he's just admitted he does. "I'll go down swinging for the final line," I'll fight for myself until the end; "I'm not the rebel for my bride," I'm a rebel for myself and not for you; "just for the record and the afterlife, I'll take a beating not a dive," I'll take a beating but I won't be knocked down. That could also link back to Fell For You - "steal a kiss and I took a dive" - saying that this time I won't take a dive for you. Finally, because it's kind of bluster and he is hurting really, he sings "I'm gonna make a racket, I'm gonna start a riot, I'm gonna make you crash and burn," saying he's going to break the person's heart in return. That one isn't so different to your interpretation of "fuck you, I'm going to do whatever I want that's considered bad anyway," just a different subject. I don't actually think it's an immature song. He's playing with the concept of immaturity in the "crash and burn" line but mocking and embracing it. I guess you could say the exact same thing about I Want Revenge, but tbh I don't think it's even serious enough for any kind of concept like mocking immaturity. And Turn Me Loose is absolutely a greater piece of art than I Want Revenge My favourite Longshot song. I don't think they can even be compared.

Well then, now that I know everything there is to know about prednisone haha, let’s fangirl on this beautiful Friday morning!! I agree with everyone’s comments about 80 at the NYE party. She looked positively stunning!! And of course Billie did as well because, well, it’s Billie. I am SO beyond happy with the black hair. It’s my favorite! And since I know at least some of you will appreciate it, can we please talk about Tre and his new baby?? So adorable!! The whole family looks so over the moon happy 😍

Honestly, we shouldn't even be talking about it. Kaylie's Instagram is private therefore her posts should never have been posted here. Jeff was a dick to try and make it public in the first place, but other than that we really shouldn't be commenting on it. It's not our place to speculate or judge or make assumptions, especially when we don't know/can't be certain exactly what is happening anyway. It should be between them and the legal authorities, and I hope they get it sorted.

Speaking about Jeff, how long had it been since his last divorce? Because his graphic and boastful posts about his hot young girlfriend over the past year to me seemed like he was trying to rub it in his ex wife’s face (and also pretend to be happier than he was). If it was partly intended to make the ex jealous, that there is evidence that the dude has serious issues with rejection and is a serial harasser.

I want to clarify that when I said Kalie needs to bring forth the evidence, I meant to the authorities. She absolutely should not post it publicly and does not owe it to anyone except those investigating the case.

I know we’re going in circles here, but apparently my point isn’t getting through. Kalie’s accusations are the point right now. There is no argument about Jeff’s public recent actions on social media, which we have evidence of, being wrong. The problem some of us have is in assuming that all of the serious allegations she is making are true. We don’t know that. She could have gotten carried away in anger just as he did. Or everything she said she might have full evidence of and he might be guilty of them. Do we know which is correct at this point? No we do not. But many on here are assuming the latter without evidence.

No one has argued that he didn’t act like a dick, not really the point.

Yes, we’ve all agreed and it’s clear it’s a problem. What is not clear is whether all of Kalie’s serious accusations on the video are true. That is not up to us to determine with the information we have now.

I don't think anyone is saying Jeff is flawless. Just simply that we are getting part of the story, a very small part. Remember, Kalie and Jeff both shared what they wanted to share. So both of them gave us the part of the story they wanted us to see. I also truly believe that no issue is 100% one persons fault. Both of them have behaved badly by airing the end of their relationship via social media. It isn't our place to judge either of them other than the fact that this never should have gotten to this point on social media.

People are saying a lot more than “his behavior is bad”, if you’ve noticed

Of course I’m familiar with false equivalency. And I’m sure you’ve heard of social media mob justice. Did you read Signe’s post? She is assuming that everything Kalie said on that video, including that he has threatened her and her family, is true. There is no evidence of this. There is evidence that he acted like an idiot and inappropriately dragged her on social media, and recklessly called others to do the same. But assuming that he has actually stalked and threatened her based on 7 unanswered calls and a string of texts begging her to contact him, and then calling for not only his dismissal from GD but also that everyone should be “warned” about how “dangerous” he is, is ridiculous at this point. Kalie’s accusations should be taken seriously, Jeff should be banned from contacting her & face the consequences if he does, and an investigation should happen. But it is not up to us to decide if the very serious allegations she makes in that video are true. We do NOT have evidence of stalking, contacting friends and family, and threats. Yet. If the evidence emerges, then it’s a completely different situation. There is a world of difference between being an asshole (inappropriate social media posts that puts your ex at risk), and actual criminal behavior. Y’all need to get a grip until all the facts come out, if they do.

Frankly none of this should be for the public... we don’t know the story we have Jeff’s side Kalie’s side and then there’s the truth Jeff shouldn’t have posted any of this on his social media page and neither should she if she doesn’t want contact change the number and then file a report... saying don’t feel safe at GD shows and trying to imply that Jeff is going to be a murderer cause of calling someone repeatedly well as someone who has multiple friends actually been MURDERED is highly off putting to me... Bottom line Jeff’s an douche who should move on Kalie should file a report and both need to lay off social media about all of this

Again, what you “saw” on the one side was just some Internet postings from people you don’t even know. Nobody knows the totality of what was going on except those involved. Life isn’t black-and-white, “one person is right, one person is wrong.” If only it was that simple. I’m not saying Jeff’s actions make sense or are defensible by any means, but if he hadn’t apparently rallied fans online to harass her, and only posted about being cheated on, for example, everyone might be rushing to his defense and calling him the victim when bullying could still be happening behind the scenes. I highly doubt a nasty breakup that got aired online is going to jeopardize someone’s position as a Green Day touring guitarist most people have never heard of and it amazes me that anyone would feel personally at risk from it.

I think this is reaching a bit. I highly doubt anyone at a Green Day show or in the general public is at risk because Jeff is acting unstable because his girlfriend (supposedly) cheated on him. It’s a very personal issue and I wish it could have just been left as that. I don’t get why grown adults have to air their issues on social media like this. Do either of them actually think this will make things better?

Bravo. And very rational.

Yes, I bloody hate false claims, and understand the importance to be aware of it. But I do hope the fans attacking her stops, and Jeff moves on or something, maybe even consider seeing a therapist to talk about his anger Then again im just a guy on the internet, false claims can hurt people and so can online social justice, I recommend ” so you been publicly shamed ” by Ron Johnson. Let's hope everything goes back to normal for both

This is hard to explain, so I'm going to do it in a slightly odd way... Imagine a situation (I AM NOT SAYING THE JEFF KALIE ONE) A relationship breaks down, for whatever reason, and whoever is at fault isn't known. Person 1 publicly has a go at person 2, then later apologises Person 2 is either sad at the end of the relationship, or mad at the previous incident and wants revenge, or some other unknown reason, so goes public to plead their case. Maybe this doesn't go to plan, so they create evidence believable to social media... Rename a number in their phone as person 1 and engineer a load of missed calls using said number. Send a load of messages to own phone. Screen shot and share. Neither of these would be admissable in a court of law without proof of where they came from. Let me reiterate.... I am absolutely NOT saying kalie did this. I am saying we should be careful not to get caught up in speculating and should let the professionals deal with it. I have also said that if Jeff is in the wrong, he should be held to account. That also, if Kalie is in the wrong, she should be held to account. My point all along, has been that we don't know and should not be unkind to either one of them. I said a while back that I hope they both find peace and move on. I hope this explains my point. Abuse is never OK.

Or Kalie has removed her. I've definitely been removed, and so have many others that I follow. She's also private account again now, so hopefully she can ditch all the GD fans and go back to a private life. We don't know what she did in the beginning, we don't know what he did in the beginning. We know he was wrong on twitter. We know she loves the attention she gets from her stories (of mundane everyday stuff, and there's no issue here). Jeff calling her every day, up to 7 times, isn't pleasant I agree, but it's typical 'I want you back' behaviour, and we don't know it was going to be nasty. We don't have proof of what she said about what he is doing. IF Jeff is doing these things, then, yes his position should be considered. However, he may be the victim of this latest set of stuff (not the twitter stuff, we know that!)

This is absolutely disgusting. It’s hard enough in this world without behavior like this from someone who people look up to and ultimately represent Green Day. Bullies are disgusting. I’m glad that’s the general consensus on this. This behavior is terrible, shocking and sad. Airing dirty laundry is one thing, but this girl fears for her safety. This is really sad. I am so over Jeff Matika bullying a woman during or after they broke up no matter what the reason. This is beyond disgusting. If this is at all true. If Jeff is bullying an ex-girlfriend like this and making her fear for her safety: I hope Green Day gets rid of him. And also that Mike Dirnt or Bill Schneider plays bass in the Longshot. Kevin Preston in Green Day. Sorry/not sorry! Jeff Matika will make women feel uncomfortable at Green Day and Longshot shows. That is not cool.

If that's not abusive idk what is.

When you're reading the review of a dog toy, and the statement "helps to clean your dog's chompers" makes you think of the 8,000 discussions we've had about Billie's teeth.