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Tis the one I mentioned in the fangirl thread. I hope you enjoy.

I should have clarified that part. Billie's intentions for the Trilogy around the time of the release of 21st Century Breakdown were good, but due to his ever more excessive alcohol consumption at the height of the tour and the American Idiot Broadway musical (mid-2010), he never managed to work out a concrete plan or goal for the songs he had already written or was writing. I don't believe Billie ever intended it to be a trilogy before they started recording in spring 2011. Billie wrote on forced autopilot as he has admitted as much, leading to nonsensical and uninspiring lyrics. His exacerbating drugs and alcohol abuse, the stunning complacency of Cavallo and the lack of a more formal plan before recording gave way to randomness and tracks randomly being shifted from album to album though some never seemed to fit in. Demolicious was as much an admission that the overall sound was too clean and that they could have made one Sandinista like record instead of three normal-length records. I know many Trilogy aficionados appreciate the 37 songs we got, but I don't think it would have been any loss if they had released the 20 strongest on one record with a rawer sound, released a seperate FBHT album whilst doing some small club shows for that record in between major tour legs for the main album and followed up with a Shenanigans 2.0 containing more tracks. After all, we never heard the 20 other tracks Billie has written besides the 38 (37 + State of Shock) that got released.

I wonder if GD will do another Facebook live at some point during the tour? I want them to do a Facebook live because the Facebook live threads in this forum have been so hilarious

I agree. I don't think those three albums together were a bad idea, the problem with it was it was filled with anything just to have the three discs. To be honest, I don't even remebmer when I heard Dos in full for the last time. Altough I love Tre - talking about the album now - I don't take the album as a part of something bigger. I like it a lot, and I'm not saying Dos is a bad one. It only feels to me that Tre sounds more natural - like the way it sounds doesn't harm these songs as much as it seems to me to not fit with several song on Uno for example. Altough I don't like the studio versions of songs like Stay The Night or Carpe Diem I think they're pretty good as songs - on the studio version it's sounds like something is missing sometimes, I don't know why, but the live versions sound much better to me. To the issue with 37 songs better than less - I agree with you completely. I like the idea of hearing as many songs as possible, but make three studio albums even if some of those songs don't seem to be finished... I like the Trilogy, but you know, sometimes it's questionable for the reasons above As hard as I try I don't understand why State Of Shock wasn't good enough to make the album instead of something else The conclusion for me is "Ok, weird times" Honestly, I don't think GD should feel somehow embarrassed, it's not that bad thing that would deserve to be forgotten for ever. I made several bad steps myself during creating something - that's completely alright only if you learn that you made that bad step. And I think GD realised that, which is a good sign. But it's funny like with every new record they're always trying to top the previous one - they're so hard on themselves that I almost feel ashamed for being lazy sometimes

^ it's really sad just how accurate this is....

What's funny is around the 21CB era, GD released 2 hours of material as well which was of higher quality. In 2008 they released Stop Drop & Roll which was 32 minutes, then they released 21CB in 2009 which was 69 minutes long. And they released the B-sides and Bonus tracks which in total was about 24 minutes of material. In total that's 125 minutes (2 hours 5 minutes).

That's a great comment, I definitely felt like that before They are hard on themselves, I hope they manage to make peace with the Trilogy soon.

You are right. In fact, I do like your concept better. When they announced trilogy, it seemed overwhelming. A Green Day album (something like Demolicious) and a Foxboro album (Dos) would work better.

I'd like some sort of medley of Holiday/Say Goodbye or the songs being interwoven like they did on the Howard Stern show.

This is enough of an excuse to bump this thread.

I'm really hoping that Kerplunk and Insomniac will get some good exposure on the tour! I'd do literally anything to see 80, Holden, Stuart and Bab's live in person

Sex, Drugs & Violence is my favorite Trilogy song. The song is so underrated it's crazy.

Consider this a silent plead to Green Day: please do another Facebook live.

That's true, great remark from you, they're definitely able to put out quality in quantity, altough it happened under different circumstances, I think that's fair to say. Also the gap between the AI and 21stCB was 5 years, but I'm not sure if it had some impact or big influence on the song's quality.

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Haha, yeah it's so true I think they're on the right way to do so, at least I hope, too.

I remember someone making it on tumblr but I don't know anymore how it went

I'm surprised no one has made a dick: out I am forcibly removed from a Green Day show meme yet

I find 21CB lyrics to be nonsensical at times. They seem overly complex and forced into songs. Lyrics need to fit the sound, pace, feel, and rhythm of a song. Good lyrics are good because the music and lyrics compliment each other.

As good as they are now, I kind of miss those days. They were so crazy and funny.

I fully agree. I loved live versions of these songs before the albums came out and I still do. I do hope they will bring back some of those songs because not eveything was bad. Great post, you summed it up perfectly. However, I don't think things went awry before iHeart. The promotion was badly executed (seemed insincere, Angry Birds and The Voice weren't good ideas, fwooking commercials, you name it) but the band seemed to be doing a good job as far as playing music was concerned. So my expectations for the studio versions of those songs were still pretty high, even after hearing Oh Love (naive me, I know)

Yeah, the medley on the Stern show was amazing. Holiday and Say Goodbye have a very similar vibe, they fit together very well. I'm dying to hear this on the European tour, or even better: Holiday and Say Goodbye both in their entirety, one flows into the other one.

I think that's also the reason why some people (me included) like the live versions of some trilogy songs, but not the studio versions. For example Stop When the Red Lights Flash - it's fucking awesome live, but I always skip it on the record. That's why it's really sad they don't play trilogy songs anymore, they sound so much better live. Judging from the Rock Reel interview on youtube we got recently, they're still not ready to make peace with the trilogy, so I'm not expecting any trilogy songs on the upcoming tour. But who knows? Wouldn't be the first time GD surprises us

the longer you look the better it gets

I would literally give my arm to hear Stuart live!

The issues people have with the Trilogy are myriad and complex, ranging from the weak drums over ridiculous lyrics to generally disregarding anything of the era because of the stuff that happened. Some people clearly expected too much after the lyrical porn of 21CB, so they were bound to be disappointed. Yet most qualms with the three records contain (a kernel of) truth. The vocal filters were excessive and served no clear purpose when compared to their use on AI and 21CB. The overall sound, both vocally and instrumentally is too clean and Tré's drums don't get the justice they deserve. Then the lyrics of some songs were random as fuck (Nuclear Family, Dirty Rotten Bastards) or straight out cringeworthy (Troublemaker). This doesn't pertain so much to Dos!, which can be excused from this criticism due to it being the second, dirty Foxboro Hot Tubs album, as to Uno! and Tré! which both lack focus and suffer from some songs with sometimes uninspired and boring lyrics (Oh Love, 99 Revolutions) and just feel as though their track list is completely random. Tré! especially suffers from this inconsistency, though it's in my humble opinion lyrically and generally by far the most impressive of the three records. They are a decent product of pills and alcohol, but not from a band which stormed the stage with Dookie, crowned themselves king of contemporary rock with American Idiot and showed that 'simple' songs are at their best coupled with a more rough sound (Kerplunk, Demolicious). I think the Trilogy would have been better received if the sound was grittier, the writing tighter and less throwaway, the bass and drum more prominent and the track lists less randomly thrown together the way they were. Of course it was doomed by iHeart, but things went awry much sooner.

Or maybe people just didn't like the albums

I'm planning not to check out the setlist when their European shows start on January 10th because I'll see them only 8 days later. I wanna get surprised which songs they perform, but I don't know if I'll be strong enough to resist the temptation...

I'm very amused at the idea of him sitting around watching Green Day videos on youtube.