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I've said this many times, but I do really, really like the trilogy. I'm not saying it's the best thing they've ever done, but there are some brilliant songs on it and I don't dislike the lower quality songs as much as some people do. I enjoy listening to it all together and think it can be interpreted as a story without forcing that - not that they're concept albums, but definitely a vague and perhaps unintentional story, as Billie said in Cuatro. I also genuinely believe that along with rehab, the hate bandwagon had an influence on peoples' opinions without them meaning it to. I know a few people who've said they liked it and then were put off it by the hate. Not saying that was the case with everyone, but I don't think we can deny it had an impact. Anyway, I'm glad Billie has been talking about it openly and honestly but without totally disowning it. It's a real shame that it ended up becoming forced after how excited they were at first, because I don't think it initially was, but I get how it ended up that way with his situation and them wanting to get the music out there. I know a lot of people will take his quote about it having no direction as brushing it all off as shit, but I don't think that is what he's saying - he's admitting it became that way so the process wasn't quite what it should have been, which I have a lot of respect for. I was happy he said that if he could go back he'd still do it and that there are great songs on there, because it'd be really sad if they felt nothing good came out of it at all. Regardless of its flaws and how it ended up going wrong, I think most of us can agree we got at least a few songs we love out of it, a great tour and that any mistakes they made won't happen again.6 points
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I think the Trilogy succeeded in trying to be ambitious and experimental. I mean, the whole project has a distinct sound and feel unlike any other Green Day music. It's very light-hearted and glossy, which can be a bad thing, but it was a new musical direction and is unique in their discography. Seems like we've quickly forgotten all the great things the Trilogy albums brought us. Nuclear Family and Stay the Night are solid pop punk songs. Kill the DJ is a great dance/punk song that's funny and funky. Oh Love is a slow rocker with a great solo. Lazy Bones is a great song, Wild One and Wow! That's Loud have some amazing instrumental work, and Amy is a very heartful song with great vocals and fingerpicking guitar. Then we have Brutal Love which is a standout song overall for Green Day and Missing You and X-Kid which are catchy pop-punk songs. Lots of good stuff in there.6 points
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I have a lot of respect for the way BJ talks about the trilogy. Publicly admitting its flaws is quite a brave move, I mean many people would stand their ground and said they're satisfied with it instead.4 points
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I definitely agree with this. At the time of Uno, I was comfortably single and just starting my A levels at school. The day Dos came out was the day I started a relationship, and that relationship ended not long after Tre. So for those reasons, I really get the 'journey' feeling of the trilogy. It wasn't a long or complex relationship, but it was my first, which maybe makes me feel it even more strongly. Uno was also the first green day album that was released while I was a fan, so when I listen to it after a while I get that same excited feeling I got when I first heard the songs (Rusty James especially). I know I've said this before, but I'll say it again: I really like the trilogy, but it definitely wasn't as good as it could have been. It's given me some of my favourite songs of all time, and some of my least favourite (green day songs). There has, however, been a moment where I've wanted to listen, and enjoyed listening to, each and every song on all three of those albums. I might not ordinarily stick on makeout party or Angel Blue, but there have been days that I've listened to nothing but those songs. That, I think, is testament to how relatable Green Day's music is - there's something for every mood that you're in, at whatever stage of your journey you may be. I think some of the critics just haven't listened to enough of the albums enough times to be able to form that relationship with the songs (especially some of the dos songs which are harder to relate to), and a song will always seem worse if it means nothing to you. For me, the trilogy was my soundtrack to the six months following September 2012, and that also happened to be a time when I developed a lot as a person and had many new experiences, in my academic, personal and social lives. I can relate every song in some way to parts of that journey, and that made the albums as a whole more personal and enjoyable for me. I still don't like every song, and I still have my hands-down favourites, but I can't imagine how I'd feel if the songs were unrelatable, impersonal or taken out of any personal context.3 points
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Not sure how I stumbled onto this, but it's an interview from 1995 in Rolling Stone. I thought it was interesting. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bo9est-new-band-green-day-199501263 points
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I saw it as a closer at shepherds bush in August 2012. I think they played it as a closer on that promo tour before the albums were out.2 points
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Stay the Night and Brutal Love should stay. I doubt they'll play more than four trilogy songs, given the amount of previous material + all the new tracks from RevRad they'll be performing. They have so many great songs to choose from and with an expected focus on some well-loved Insomniac classics like Walking Contradiction and Armatage Shanks, the Trilogy will undoubtedly feature less prominently.2 points
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Yeah, I think they'll not play more than one or two Trilogy songs from here on out, excellent as the last tour may have been. Oh yeah, definitely those as well. Basically a Trilogy live album2 points
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I love Wild One and don't get the hate either. It's not a song I listen to all the time but I enjoy it when I do, and I think the lyrics are really decent. In general I never got the assumption that the lyrics are all dishonest and meaningless - some obviously don't mean much, but the love songs especially are very sensitive and I'd be surprised if Billie ever said they mean nothing. Maybe it's because he never got the chance to talk more about the lyrics, so we don't know who they're about or in what context. I liked that in a way though, it left them all really open to interpretation from the beginning, instead of thinking "oh this is about Billie and that person". Maybe it's also because the longing in songs like Stray Heart and 8th Ave Serenade is masked by upbeat tunes and/or what people thought was mediocre music. I don't know, but I never got that impression to the extent others did and I've always been able to relate to a lot of it. I've never been sure if Nuclear Family does have no meaning or if Billie just said that because he couldn't think how to explain its vague concept, or couldn't be bothered to, haha. Maybe it really does since he's now said the process became forced, but either way I think it's possible to interpret it in a few different ways. Melissa Webster who was a member here wrote some interesting interpretations of the trilogy (Uno, Dos, Tre) on Huffington Post. I don't interpret all of it in the same way she does, but they're a good read and might (or might not) be interesting for people who are interested in a potential story or people who don't see any meaning.2 points
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I've contacted Best Buy to either dispute or confirm the claim. EDIT: They responded with "Hello! This is available for pre-order: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/bang-bang-only--best-buy-cd/5580474.p?skuId=5580474&CMP=rzss " Looks like we're getting it.2 points
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------------------------------- So.. I've been re-listening the Trilogy lately and god damn I have some genuinely serious questions for you guys. 1. Why all the hate on Wild One? Even people that enjoy the trilogy claim Wild One is very boring and too long, and as a big fan on Green Day's love songs (AKA Last Night On Earth, 80, Redundant) I absolutely love Wild One, and I find that soothing feeling LNOE brings in Wild One. 2. Why does everyone keep on saying the line "She's old enough to bleed now" on Drama Queen is about the girl being on her period? For fuck's sake. I think is more than obvious that Billie's referring to the girl being all grown up now and once she left her innocence and naïveté behind, she's gonna be able to feel pain and be hurt. 3. Am I the only one bothered that Nuclear Family has absolutely no meaning? I enjoy the song and think it's a fantastic opener for the trilogy, but holy shit. I think I can't think of a single Green Day song that has absolutely no meaning other than Nuclear Family, I guess the song comes across as soulless without a meaning behind it. 4. Why are people so negative about songs like Makeout Party and Fuck Time and the general theme of sex around ¡DOS! ?, like I can totally see myself being on my 40s and still being able to talk about sex just like my current self, I think people are just weirded out and it's very stupid. (Btw, Makeout Party is a BANGER, I don't get why some people dislike it). 5. Since Bang Bang got released, most people have been saying that is 10 x better than Oh Love as a lead single (I agree), but thanks to this I think people are appreciating even less the good song Oh Love truly is. I'm sure that if it weren't for Billie Joe's meltdown and Rehab situation, the trilogy would've been successful and (I bet my bollocks that) Oh Love would have been a Green Day classic just like Know Your Enemy or Holiday. 6. And finally... The Forgotten. I have never been nuts for this song, but now that I have listening to it more times, it really has growned on me. I believe it's a beautiful song and I think I know why most people (including me) dislike it or just didn't payed more attention to it..... Twilight.2 points
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We tend to associate certain songs and albums with what is going on in life I think. For me the Trilogy came out while I was going through a divorce, so it will always bring back those memories for me. The divorce wasn't messy and we are still friends today, so it's not entirely a bad thing. That's just what I was going through in life. As far as bad times, American Idiot is my favorite album but my life around that time was......really screwed up. I related to American Idiot waay more than I like to admit. I know I'm not the only one but I deeply, deeply relate to Green Day's music.2 points
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I have NEVER so strongly agreed and disagreed with multiple things. Great post though. I don't really like ranking their albums because it has changed at different times of my life but I will say that as I got older, I started to enjoy their more melodic stuff. Don't get me wrong, i'm still a pit pusher, and I rock out when I go to shows, but just listening in the car, I'll take a nice East Jesus Nowhere over Longview. Pretty much every song on Dookie, I can't listen to anymore but FOD. Just have heard it SOOOOOO many times. I'm in the school that AI is their masterpiece but my favorite songs are all over the place. I also love TCB. I just love the lyrics, harmony and music. I think it will be considered their golden age. It's easy to forget that Billie is pushing towards 50 and he is still writing and making great music with the same band. Yes, The Rolling Stones, and bands like Waters, Mccartney and once Bowie were playing out and putting on amazing shows but they haven't made a good record in decades. Finally, I don't think there is as much difference between each album as you are purporting. It is my opinion that there is at least one song on every album that would fit on any other album. Green Day sounds like Green Day to me. Very distinct and not very variable but still the best rocking band IMO.2 points
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I actually like 99 Revs live, mix that in with a few of the better Trilogy songs and I think it could work well. Also I don't know how I never had the idea before but I'm strongly tempted to photoshop a stage with 99 clones of Rev. Strychnine Twist.1 point
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I was also thinking it may be likely given that little video of Billie Joe cutting a master single of Bang Bang.1 point
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I hope they'll do a live recording of the RevRad tour, but I don't think many Trilogy songs will feature on tour set lists. I completely agree with you that the 99 Revolutions tour was actually really solid. It didn't posses the scope of the 21CB tour or the AI tour, but their shows were still exhilaratingly good in 2013.1 point
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I think they might do another live album or at least some live B-sides for the next tour, but there are still a good few bits of the last tour that would work well enough to be released. Yeah, I mean no complaints that it's Letterbomb, it's fantastic, but I would like some properly recorded live Trilogy stuff. Lazy Bones would be good, I'd be fine with Let Yourself Go and Stay The Night too.1 point
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I can't say I'm surprised, they seemed to like playing that song lately but I'd be more excited if they came up with something rare. Full live version of Lazy Bones wouldn't hurt.1 point
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Well, we got Demolicious, which might be as close as we'll get. Still, I agree. The Trilogy was the first record to not have a recorded version of its subsequent tour since Nimrod. I personally think the odds are rather low on them releasing another live recording.1 point
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I'm surprised they're going with Letterbomb really, we haven't had any Trilogy live recordings released officially so I find it odd that they're going with one that's already been a B-side.1 point
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That was one great performance, so I wouldn't object. They have of course performed Letterbomb dozens of times throughout the years, so even a BIAB-era recording isn't out of the question. I'm personally more interested in the single for the high-quality version of Bang Bang and just to have it in my collection.1 point
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Well I want to just say that I'm proud of them, and thank them for never giving up because they meant a lot to me. But I know I'd probably say something completely off the wall and then hate myself until i die.1 point
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Drama Queen was originally going to be on 21st CB and according to what Billie said about it at that time it's about how young female celebrities are exploited by their families and the media. I think that line refers to being literally "old enough to bleed" as in starting periods as a metaphor for being old enough to be exploited by everyone who has a stake in her fame (and possibly like you say being old enough to suffer etc). It's metaphorical but it's still legit to say it relates to periods, pretty sure it's supposed to make you think of them. I think the whole line "daddy's little bundle of joy......she's old enough to bleed now" is deliberately meant to sound creepy to reflect the creepiness of how these young celebrities are treated. And I agree about 1 and 4 haha1 point
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I forgot how great their Working Class Hero cover is, Youtube just autoplayed it for me and I had to just sit and listen to it, a total flashback of summer 2007...1 point
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Fuck Time and Carpe Diem are Billie's as seen on Cuatro. Jason plays a solo kinda thing on Lady Cobra. Not sure about the other songs...1 point
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Looks like it, it fits him nicely but both sleeves were cut, love all that footage of him with the short hair ❤️❤️❤️1 point
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-25/bailey-seagull-security-dog-australian-national-maritime-museum/7780856 Nothing personal - just made be chuckle....1 point
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yea i know and yep you're right but he would look weird if he was tre's body type. i think it just looks right but when you see his back only you might think he's a kid. he literally has no butt in these tight pants and no shoulders, all that makes him look very tiny. i totally agree but its rather the looks than the actual height like you said1 point
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It actually isn't the height, he is slightly shorter than me and I am fairly tall for a woman. He is very slight, small shoulders, hands, etc. Tre is shorter but actually looks bigger because he is so much broader.1 point
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Still like the white one in Quatro where he's had to cut the sleeves to fit round his biceps though 🔥1 point
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I've been watching footage from their set at Reading festival three years ago and this is the footage that I enjoy watching the most. Their performance was awesome and I get goosebumps every time I see the fans singing the opening to BOBD. If people don't think this band are relevant anymore I suggest they watch this performance.1 point
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I can relate to that, I'd rank Warning, Kerplunk and 39/Smooth at the bottom but I'd still write a love letter to any of them1 point
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True, but I read so many negative things about them in this thread, that I had to write a love letter! They are low on my list, but my list only had Green Day albums in them, which rank higher than most other bands. My friend and I hold a yearly Music Awards Ceremony called the CAPMMAs (Cowboy and Punk's Music Music Awards) (Those are our nicknames) where we vote on on favorite songs, album, opening track, closing track, album art, etc.. Basically sometime in December, we get together, get drunk, and listen to music. We were talking about the new Blink, and how it was a contender for album of the year, that was before Bang Bang came out. Now, Blink doesn't stand a chance, lol. Point being, Green Day is some high quality shit, even the Trilogy. (That was a rough year for the CAPMMA's, having to choose between three GD albums!) And hey, I rank Uno and Dos higher than 21st! Holy shit, I just realized that was my first post. I joined in 2009, and never posted. Talk about lurking, lol!1 point
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