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Can't we permaban him yet?

you not liking it doesn't make it a bad song though. And plenty of good songs have 2 chords, have you heard About a Girl? I'm not saying that Fell for You is in the same caliber as that song, but 2 chords doesn't automatically make a song shit.

Or, maybe because a 37 song trilogy with tiny guitars, overproduced and uninspiring vocals, mid-life crisis induced lyrics about themes that hardly even seem connected to Billie Joe Armstrong, and absolutely zero room for Tre and Mike to show their talents was, y'know, a bad idea. Exhibit A: "Where did you come from? Where have you been? Looks like you fell into the trash bin" From A Little Boy Named Train (shockingly, not nominated for record of the year) B: "Sex, drugs & violence English, math & science, Safety in numbers Give me, give me danger" From SD&V C: "Oh, anyhow, anywhere Kiss me there, oh kiss me there Oh, scream and shout, truth or dare Kiss me there, oh kiss me there" From Makeout Party D: "Where in the world’s the forgotten? They’re lost inside your memory You’re dragging on, your heart’s been broken As we all go down in history" and "Well, don’t look away from the arms of a bad dream Don’t look away, sometimes you’re better lost than to be seen Don’t look away from the arms of a moment Don’t look away from the arms of tomorrow Don’t look away from the arms of a moment Don’t look away from the arms of love" From the inimitable "The Forgotten" E: "Wanna be a Troublemaker Wanna be a Troublemaker Wanna be a Troublemaker Wanna be a Troublemaker Hey! I like your BMW I like your BM-excellent tits With a tattoo of a pig sniffing glue" From Troublemaker F: "Hanging out all by myself, at least I make good company Hey, isn't that a whatshisface that I see walking down the street I'm gonna hide in the shadows 'cause I really got nothing to say We never had anything in common and I never liked you anyway" From Loss of Control G: "Everything that I want I want from you But I just can't have you Everything that I need I need from you But I just can't have you" From Stray Heart Alright, there's what I am going to consider evidence of cliche, lazy, or subpar lyricism in the trilogy. There's many more examples, but there's a start. Now, if they had been making melodies/harmonies as tight as Kerplunk/Dookie or the instruments matched the level of Insomniac Warning or Nimrod, then maybe I'd let the lyrics go, hell I listen to music with far worse lines than this, but I've certainly come to realize Green Day are a standard above the norm, a HOF band that is worth more than the trilogy displayed

Uno is mediocre, Dos is awful and Tre is decent.

I doubt that we would ever agree on filler tracks.

I'd like to say that the Demolicious version of "Baby Eyes" is fucking bad ass.

Why would I take 15-18 tracks when I can have 37?

I love that stuff! Deliberately doing something risque/embarrassing to challenge the audience and he gets to be funny and cheeky at the same time, fabulous . I hope he never stops. He's a little punk who thrives on poking fun at taboos and showing off, do you want him to be reserved and boring instead? He doesn't strip/moon so much now. But he'll usually think of something dirty to do, the latest thing I remember is him asking the crowd "do you wanna touch it?" lol. Just part of his style as a performer to do a bit of tongue in cheek teasing and shocking I think.

I like the Trilogy. I wouldn't say it's one of their best records but there are some really cool songs on Uno, Dos and Tre. I don't understand why many people hate it. Yeah, one can disagree and dislike it, but HATE is too much.

Its called the unpopular opinions thread. My unpopular opinion is - I like the trilogy.

Gottta love when they bring up "it's too simple"

Nicely stated my friend. You have hit on exactly what bothers me. I don't care what anyone else likes, I like what I like and everyone else is entitled to like what they like. I don't have a problem discussing differences of opinion, but when someone just blatantly posts "the trilogy sucks", it gets a bit on the annoying side. Tell me why you don't like it and we can talk about it. I actually think all the "trilogy sucks" talk has made me like it more

I had this whole big essay typed out but decided to forget it cause at the end of the day its not my job to make other people agree with me and i would just be a dick to even try that. What kind of music you like is up to you and thats why its special.. everyone can like what they like no matter how angry i get at the thought of people saying they didnt like American Idiot or 21st century breakdown. Uno was my least favorite there are some songs I like on there but not many. Funny thing is my favorite trilogy album is Dos which is most peoples least favorite I can listen to all the songs without a skip actually haha not sure why but the cd is fucking killer. Tre is pretty good its my second favorite of the trilogy Brutal love played and I was like holy shit this cd is gonna be fucking spectacular, most of it is really good Id say its more the direction they should have gone after 21st century if it had more distortion and less Billie backing vocals. I dont like the songs X-Kid/Amanda/99 Rev/The Forgotten. maybe a nimrod length cd would have been more appropriate im not sure but this is just my take on it. I have times where i get back into the trilogy songs but i definitely listen to everything else in the catalog way more than the trilogy.

I agree with a lot of what has been said. I want Green Day to go back to doing conceptual music videos (e.g. the 21CB music video; I thought that the artistic side of it was gorgeous) as opposed to just clips of the band jamming, even though I love those too. The animated Nuclear Family music video, if I remember correctly, wasn't done by a pro hired by the band. I think it won a music video contest that GD held, or something like that. Wasn't the winning artist's name Kyle Smith? I remember reading that somewhere.

And 21CB, I love that video.

I tried to post the picture with the boppers ages ago but it wouldn't post... so here it is. I love his smile in the bottom picture . Sorry, I can't make the first picture bigger.

I know people like to shit on Nightlife but there are still a lot of people who like Nightlife, and a lot of people like the rest of those songs you've named too Uno Dos Tré was made as a gift for the fans. It wasn't intended as an album like Dookie or AI to be universally praised. I'm sure if they wanted that, they could've just made it into a short album. They have loads of different types of fans, fans of Dookie/Insomniac, AI/21CB, Nimrod/Warning etc. and with the trilogy they tried to give something to each type of fan. I'm sure with this next release, they will make more effort to put more meaningful lyrics and a more epic sound into their songs There are loads of people who hate American Idiot. Not justr Seagull. Many people prefer the older GD albums or even the newer GD albums

I don't like this argument. They could've made a tight, concise record if they removed some of the songs. If they were able to make 12-14 song albums in the past, why shouldn't they be able to do so now. If all the songs were just so mediocre that they couldn't decide on which ones were great, they shouldn't have released this material in the first place. I respect people who like the trilogy. But saying that keeping 37 songs was a good thing is wrong, because they made concise records in the past and it worked just fine. A short album like Dookie is universally praised by most fans. If there weren't 14 songs on the trilogy that they felt were strong enough to cut out the rest, as I said, they should've scrapped the project altogether.

Except they didn't go back to their roots. Their roots were distorted guitars, mike-billie harmonies, wild drum fills/bass lines. They had clean guitars, billie-billie harmonizing, almost no good drum moments for Tre and even fewer bass moments for Mike.

This. I do not think it was their best music ever. There is no doubt about that. I just don't understand the hate that comes everyday since 2012 about it and the "cool" crowd shat on everyone and made them feel uncomfortable for liking it. Very uncalled for a forum that should feel comfortable talking about Green Day. I mean their is shittier records out there in life that the very same people love. Every song on the trilogy still beats what Blink 182 has done since like forever, MCR, Biffy Shitro, Panic At The Disco, and so on.

It was played at least one of the 2011 club shows-

oh please god no this I can get on with. Very Beatles-y sound I've always liked I tried to retire from this business

Can't wait for some of the haters to ruin this! Tell everyone in this thread on how much it sucks and how you still need to remind us 4 years later.

It is cringeworthy, as is sticking his hands down his pants. It is about as attractive as Donald Trumps hair. I don't think he has actually done that in awhile, when he was not in a compromised state. I would actually be very disappointed if he did that kind of stuff anymore.

Exactly what bj was aiming for but unfortunately it was taken too seriously

It's actually 4 chords, but who's counting. Yes, it is a simple song but as was already said, that doesn't make it bad. IT is not earth shattering, but I find it to be just plain fun. It comes on and I want to just sing along with it. Nightlife is just pure fun as well. Maybe you will like it better when I get pulled on stage to sing the lady cobra part

I'll bite. Fell for you and nightlife are two of my favorite tracks. Both are just so much fun.

I love 21cb video, think it's one of their best but also like the AI era ones. Don't like Stray Heart, it's just weird and not in a good way and don't much like the animated one. What was going on with Kill the DJ, one minute they're out tearing around on motorbikes which looked good and the next walking through a nightclub?? I quite like ones filmed in the studio but we got enough of those recently, I think we need something new and innovative which they have done before.

I've just watched the video for 21st Century Breakdown and it fits the song perfectly. The animated video for Nuclear Family isn't anywhere near as good as the 21st Century Breakdown video.

Oh yeah Walk Away is good. That should be in my list

Yes

Only having 15-18 songs instead of the 37 would not make it better. If you read "In Defense of the Trilogy" discussion, that explains why perfectly. People have different opinions on which songs are better than others. Nobody can agree on the top 15 songs of the trilogy. Because people have differing opinions. If you don't like a lot of the songs from the trilogy, you can just make a playlist of all your favourite songs. If GD only made 15 songs there's a good chance that many of the songs that you like wouldn't have been released. With the trilogy, some songs appeal to different fans e.g some songs are more like the classic Green Day, some are like Foxboro Hot Tubs, some are like AI/21CB. With 37 songs there's almost guaranteed that there will at least be something that everyone will like. I'm actually glad they made it a trilogy.

I love the way he doesn't give a fuck about taboos and morals xD He makes a livin from breaking taboos... I wish xD I don't find the mooning very sexy, but it's totally him and he loves to present himself in public. Green Day are what they are beacause they also have great, unique characters not only great music Billie kissing fans, no matter if female or male, that's Green Day. Billie playing with 11-55 year olds drooling over him since 1986 - that's Green Day xD I sure have my man at home and I was just kid when I first saw Green Day play in 1996 (?) but that man always had and always will have some magical attaction... I'm a front row fangirl, but I never was much of a screamer, I don't faint or cry either xD I gott admit that I felt kind of embarassed when he did that masturbating show on stage tho, cuz he was standing right in front of me. That was a little weird xD

Uno was probably the only album where on first listen I thought there were no bad songs on there. I still think so, it's an awesome album and I love it. It's in my top 4 GD albums for sure. I like how they went back to their roots and started writing fun songs that we didn't get since after Warning. AI and 21CB were just horrible.

Or it could be a highlight of the night. I can just picture it. Billie Joe: Yeeeeaaaaahhh! Yeeeeeaahhh! Yeeeahhh!! COME ON!!!! Crowd: Yeeeeaaaahhh!! Yeeeaaaahhh! Yeeeeeeaaaahh!!! Billie Joe: SAY HEY OHHHHH!!!! Crowd: HEY OHHHHH!!!! Billie Joe: (Insert City) PUT YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR!!!! Calling all demons this is the season...... Anybody who played the Green Day version of Angry Birds would know it

It seems like most people believe that if Green Day had made one album that contained the best songs from Uno, Dos, and Tre, then the album wouldn't have been bad at all. Also, the lyrics were sort of weak and the production of the songs were too much. Honestly, I liked the trilogy and I still listen to the albums all the way through from time to time. It was played during the small shows they did before the album release, but not afterwards.

Did Amanda get played much on the trilogy tour? I'd like that one live probably

OK but still it doesn't matter as it will never see the light of day- I still love you.

I've been wondering why they never played Dirty Rotten Bastards live since Billie Joe himself said that it was written as an arena sing along type song

Basket Case was directed by Mark Kohr. HE also directed Time of Your Life, Hitchin A Ride, WICA, amongst others. He did an excellent job with those videos, they were very cute. I had no problem with Sam Bayers directions of Oh Love and Kill the DJ. They are much darker songs than any of the songs that Mark Kohr directed. I find Sam Bayers direction more mature and they used him at a time when they were trying to appear more mature, to change their image. Sam Bayer helped them do that with the AI videos. They were clearly going for a much darker theme with the OH Love and Kill the DJ videos. That is why they chose Sam Bayer. The right director will depend on the direction of the new album. They may want to go back to a funnier themed video or they may want the video to be on the more serious side. Personally, I don't care who the director is as long as it fits the theme of the song properly.

May I bawl my eyes out now? I think it's the right occasion. I mean, my two favorite musicians interacting...the only thing better than this would be if Laura wanted to send the free book to me. Damn now I want them to tour together.

David Letterman retired, but the Late Show did not end. Jimmy Fallon replaced David Letterman. But there are also other late night talk shows. Jimmy Kimmel and Stephen Colbert also have shows.

I thought I was reading the fangirls thread with all the arguing over who's the biggest fan. Guess I'm the only one annoyed with the same conversation over and over again. Yes, I get it's all playful but I still find it overkill.

Your spoilers have made me even more interested in the film

Macy's Day Parade is such an underrated song tbh, I mean it's such a meaningful song, I don't get why not that many people acknowledge it.