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Sure, for example "Turn out the lights Close your eyes Turn up the silence The heartache of your life Dance forever Under the lights This brutal love" When I hear these words I think of how going to a concert can be a cathartic event for people. We temporarily block out reality (heartache of your life) and indulge in this relationship with the artist (brutal love). But it is often an unrequited love, because the artist doesn't know you specifically exist, really. Which explains the next verse: "Oh how you want it You're begging for it But you can't have it Even if you try It's in the clutches In the hands of This brutal love" And so on

The melody of the Sam Cooke song is brilliant - so why not borrow it? They made it their own and made it into a brilliant song - easily the best of the Trilogy.

I've said it before but I'll say it again, Brutal Love is SO all-around overrated.

Brutal Love is the best song off the trilogy, imo. It is a bit abstract with the lyrics so I can understand not liking that, but I think they perfectly capture the relationship between fans and himself. The raw emotion he puts in to the song live surpasses ANY song from the trilogy, and is perhaps only rivaled by Wake Me Up When September Ends in that category. It just adds a whole new dynamic to the lyrics. The song builds slowly into this brilliant release of energy, featuring some of the best notes Billie hits in the trilogy.

At Brixton they closed with Brutal Love AND then Good Riddance. Best closing ever Also Brutal Love might be my all time favourite Green Day song (rivaled only by Longview and East Jesus Nowhere). It's just beautiful and whether it contains elements of another song is irrelevant to my enjoyment of it.

I don't understand what's the big deal with the "borrowed" melody in Brutal Love. The song is good and that's enough for me. Green Day have "borrowed" melodies plenty of times but with Brutal Love the reactions of some people are like "Oh why he borrowd a melody of a song, this is crazy!!".

It's really not. The ending is probably my favourite Green Day melody of all time.

Billie's explanation: "I'm a fan of irresponsibility, but not that much irresponsibility." Which is complete crap considering he was arrested for a DUI not long after.

Does this verse refer to a new album?

I consider Brutal Love to be pretty impressive vocally.

Time to clean your ears!

That quote is from here: , so after his DUI. And anyway, having been arrested for DUI doesn't mean one can't realise it's an irresponsible thing to do.

I won't bother trying to change your mind, I've done it countless times with Lukie. But basically, while I agree it's a step down from AI, I'm firmly convinced it needs that sprawling quality, and the production is just staggeringly good for the most part. Also EJN.

I love Brutal Love. It was the first Green Day song since Blvd to hit me the first time I heard it. I just remember getting that feeling like I was just discovering music for the first time when I first heard the leak of it. The welling up of warmth in the chest, the reactive smile, the lightheaded rush, and the building mood boost of hope all made this song something truly memorable for me. The lyrics hit home and I think they really on point. Any vagueness is there for a reason in my point of view. It's just so utterly desperate and beautiful. I don't really care that the initial melody sounds like another song. The ending is utterly brilliant and it's just one of those songs that inspires the same emotions I get from all the Green Day greats.

Even if it is, Billie has done such a great job writing love songs in the past that use simpler phrases, but hold much deeper meaning. Even a song like Paper Lanterns, which he wrote as a teenager, says more to me about unrequited or "brutal" love than Brutal Love does... I just feel like the entire song is too abstract for my liking. I enjoy songs that are much more direct, which is what Billie has does a great job writing in the past. The trilogy was off in a lot of places for me, but it wasn't all bad. Brutal Love is just one of those songs where I will never understand its hype.

I don't know why they didn't come to Florida on their trilogy tour, but fuck them. I wanted to see them. It's been 6 years since I saw them and they haven't been back since. Fuck Green Day.

is it april fool's already?

Has anyone listened to the song DUI They left it off for legal reasons if someone drove drunk and hurt someone and they said they heard Green Day say it was ok the group and Warner could face a lawsuit...

I'm not sure. I haven't got round to finding it yet, but I suppose it could be the one they recorded in 2012 and came out as a b-side of Kill The DJ single (if i remember correctly). The quality was really good and the radio always plays official live releases. I heard that the controversy had something to do with The Offspring's song named DUI. I have to idea what.

Yeah, it's a cover of a Fifteen's song, also called "C Yo Yus". You can hear it in "On The Radio", the live album that came out in 2011 and containing a 1992 Green Day radio performance.

Just recorded tapes, as far as I know. My parents got them when they used to trawl the markets of Camden for general decent stuff sold cheap (they got me a Micro Machines Millennium Falcon from there once, that was a good day), so I don't really know exactly where any of them originated.

well this isn't new

Well it's hard to out do the great Sam Cooke

Brutal love isn't horrible. It's better thank know your enemy (their worst song in my opinion. only one i dislike on that album.) Brutal love isn't a GD corner stone but it's catchy to me at least.

Or just hire Butch Vig again, goddammit.

Basically I just want them to release nothing but live albums and demo recordings for the rest of their lives. Otherwise, they'll fuck it up.

I also wonder how I would ever react if I saw them in person... When I saw New Found Glory in Columbus this past year at a free festival, they stayed after to talk to fans and I walked up to meet them. They're one of my favorite bands. Obviously they haven't impacted me as much as Green Day, but they're still in my top five favorite artists ever. But when I saw them, I instantly froze, and my husband literally had to push me up to them and ask my two favorites for a picture... otherwise I would've completely blown it. When they put their arms around my shoulders I literally thought my brain was going to explode. So yeah, 95 percent convinced I wouldn't be able to handle meeting Green Day in person because they've impacted my life SO much. I know I wouldn't be able to speak. I've legitimately contemplated writing a thank you letter to them, so if by chance I meet them during the induction ceremony weekend in Cleveland, I can just hand them that and just walk away and have a proper meltdown in private.

The tune is borrowed from another musician. The lyrics make no sense. It's a minute and a half too long. It's boring. It didn't deserve to replace Good Riddance as a set list closer for a majority of the most recent tour, and I'm probably bitter for that, too. Um... Do you need more reasons? I can probably think of some.

Just out of curiosity, why do you think that? In speaking of overrated Green Day songs, Dirty Rotten Bastards...

I would never go so far as to call anything Billie sings a vocal masterpiece. What's important with him is the delivery, not the technical brilliance. Which is one of the reasons the Trilogy is so bad vocally.

So, a box of old Green Day cassettes has been unearthed in the depths of a cupboard, and contains: 1. Teenage Rampage, with the girl on the Kerplunk cover on the box, no tracklist. 2. Paris Theatre, 3rd February 1998 3. Noize Boyz: Maida Vale Studios, London, 11th March 1996 Lowlands Festival, Holland, August 27th 1995 Letterman Late Show, November 9th '95 Music Awards, NYC, 1994 Letterman Late Show, 1994 (no specific date) Radio Session, East Orange, August 1st 1994 4. Interview 17/7/02 (doesn't say where from), Live T In The Park 5. Radio 1 2000-2001 Any of that noteworthy?

Yeah Billie was pretty off at Rock Am Ring vocally. No doubt. But Reading was much better, though he may have appeared a bit bored at certain points, it was probably nothing. As for Foreverly not being "creative"... well I think that's just missing the point. The fact that he recorded a pretty unknown Everly brothers album with someone who is so dissimilar from him musically (Norah Jones) is an inherently creative thing to do. Obviously if you don't like folk/roots country then it will be quite boring. But that album had some incredible harmonies, and the songs were brought to life with their more modern sound.

I don't see how you can compare the vocals on Foreverly and the Trilogy anyway. They're totally different styles of music and require different vocal styles. He shows off his range a lot more on Foreverly, but given the fact the Trilogy is mostly rock it needs his trademark snarl. And it just doesn't have it.

He played on a baseball team with members of the American Idiot Musical cast, that must be actor Theo Stockman's shirt.

But the bridge on 21 Guns live :wub: :wub: :wub: one of the best moments in any live GD song ever

Why is Christian´s Inferno so disliked? It´s one of my favourites, I listen to it quite often. Maybe I love it just because of the beat, and maybe because of the kind of apocalyptic mood. Love it.

I didn't know you were a recording device.

I forgot these exist.

My three least favorite would have to be Wild One, Troublemaker and A Little Boy Named Train, for reasons I and others have laid out many a time.

Why She, may I ask?

Yep.

1996/1998/2000/2005/2009/2014

I agree, red lights represent sex and places where prostitutes are picked up so I think it refers to picking someone up for sex.

Oh. Sorry. *shuffles out*

Even live??? I love it anyway, but it is definitely a great track live.