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cover art for their new album: :lol: epic page own.

it's January 17th, 2012 ...and Kerplunk turns t-w-e-n-t-y we made a video for that, enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGXateWzbYA thanks to everyone who made that possible, green day fans are fucking great. ------------------------------------------ last September we made a video for the 7th anniversary of American Idiot. we had so much fun and we were so happy when it was posted on GDA , that we thought “how about making another one for kerplunk’s 20th anniversary? ” … so here we go!

K, this may be more appropriate to a new thread about stuff we decide to do together, but I have some thoughts about it now, so here goes. Any endeavor should start with principles - like, why are you doing this? As regards 'showing appreciation' to Green Day, I think that comes naturally with buying their records and coming together at their shows to celebrate with them. It comes with giving Billie Joe a 'hey-oh', for however millionth time he asks for it - it comes from just giving of ourselves in that moment, together. We can do other stuff that reinforces us as a community - giving advice and comfort when it's asked for, talking to each other, sharing our love of the music, contributing to this forum. As regards stuff like the environment, I think do it because you believe in it, not because it's something Green Day's involved with. I think, don't trade on their name, do it for its own sake and ask anyone who's like-minded to come with you if that's what they want to do. Be true. Don't offer prizes or accolades, because doing what you believe in doesn't require any of that. Be pure. Green Day's fucking great, but they're not - nor do I think they would ever want to be - some kind of altar at which to bring our offerings. That notion disrespects both us and them. Let us inspire each other and support each other, have fun together, and most of all, fucking rock out together.

This thread has been fascinating to follow for the past few days. I stayed away from GDATW from the start, partly because the planning seemed weak and partly because I was short on both time and interest. As the weeks progressed, I raised my eyebrows more than a few times. Though some things were sketchy, I couldn't tell which aspects of the story were genuine and which were a scam. It seems like the community has reached a consensus that Dawn lied on several accounts. When someone breaks trust like that, it can't be recovered, no matter how many documents the offender digs out from old boxes. Regardless of where the truth lies, Dawn won't be able to convince our whole forum of her innocence. Having said that, it's been interesting to see GDC, as a family, rebound from this whole catastrophe. It speaks bounds the mod team cared to reach out to the rest of the forum, even though GDATW was not a GDA-controlled event. In light of all that's happened, a day when we get together to celebrate the band we adore will be even more special and meaningful next year. I can't wait to be part of it.

it's symbolic though. Society is twisted (like a carpet), it's rolled up really tight because there is no room for new ideas. We're stuck in a rut, and all we can think about is superficial things such as dieting. The media distracts us from the more important issues, and, in the process stripes women of their confidence. That's why the carpet is the only thing that's in colour, it's all she can see. obviously.

>everyone in thread is Andres God damn that confused me.

I'm curious to know what far-out claims you're referring to because I haven't seen any in this thread. All the claims I've seen have been reasonable and backed up with a fair amount of evidence (and where evidence is lacking people have been quick to say they're not sure and that they want to find out more before they draw conclusions). If any of the accusations are false then they're over things that would be easy for Dawn to explain or prove if she was telling the truth about them - she's free to do that and hopefully she will.

Write "Carpet Diet" on pieces of paper, take them to the next secret Green Day gigs (if there will be more) and make sure everyone near the stage holds them up. It worked before..

"We'll call Lady Gaga! Hey! Hey! (Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.) Well death to the one with the poker face."

Crap Diem.

if there were to be a last Green Day album it would be called Apocalypse because thats exactly what would happening to the world

Billie has puppy eyes

There is no intention to offend the AI video, I loved it so much But you know, we always have to get better and then...to reminisce is to die!

Right But I didn't want to offend the American Idiot anniversary video

Judging from the amount of people who are paying attention to this, and from all this enthusiasm, I can say that this is gonna be MORE awesome than last time

Finally, finally, finally! :runaround: Mary, you know how excited I am about all this and be sure that I'll take part! No doubts, definitely not! I'm glad so many people already want to take part. This is going to be as awesome as last time! It was so much fun and I really have to thank you that you do this again

haha don't be confused, today many ppl have Andres's avatar...when i came online this morning almost everyone had his avatar...even Andres was confused...but i have no idea why they all have their ava

FINALLY!!!! Mary, you know I'm in, no doubts I'm glad so many people after watching the first video decided to take part of this one!! You should be very proud, that means that it really was awesome (but we already knew that ) Also, I have all the Christmas holiday to do something creative... . . . For a crazy second I thought the real Andres wanted to take part of this

As you already know mary, I'm gonna take part in this I can't wait, and I already know which one I want to choose, I just hope none steals it

This sounds great to me! I think I will take part

wow it's sound so cool! I wanna be in this...

Okay, I was just making sure.

I like this. This is very good.

Count me in!

Nice, I'm in Why can't we pick our lyrics yet? I already know which one I want

The brain shaped brain stew/jaded single. (not my picture, but i have the same thing)

I love it Helia! And I like the symbolisim you used. It's deep, man.

Dave Grohl should produce it. See what a good job he did on Wasting Light?!

Well I never made that connection until now. When I saw it first I chuckled a little bit and then thought nothing of it.

Here are the pics I was talking about. I am soooo sorry i made you guys wait so long.

We talked for about 30 minutes, I asked her about many of the concerns people here had. Very briefly, as I'm with my family at the moment and need to get over there. This is exactly what Dawn told me. I told her I would relay all to you guys, and will continue to do what I can to confirm what she's said. She said she lied about the airline situation, she knows it was wrong, and she regrets everything that has come about from that. The reason for the lie was because she couldn't afford a ticket for the nurse who had to go with her. her doctor wouldn't allow her to fly, and if she did, it would be marked on her record unless she took a nurse with her both way. She lied to the airline about a family member dying so she could afford to fly her and her nurse to the show. Anyone who ordered something and hasn't' received it should file a claim with Amazon or Paypal to get a refund. While she was in the hospital she had her son take care of as much as he could, but he didn't keep up with the things necessary. She apologized for anyone who didn't get their order. She is sending everything she hads to Kat, and if anyone still wants to get the item they expected, they'll be able to get it from Kat. She is shipping everything to her on December 1st, so Kat will have an extensive list of what Dawn had. She said the items she was selling, she sold many of her own personal collection, then kept buying more items on eBay, which she then tried to re-sell to see if she could make any money for the charity. She wrote a check to the cystic fibrosis charity at the Costa Mesa show for $200, and she can send proof of that check. She also donated money to the Red Cross as she told people about, and she would also send that receipt to me soon. She said there wasn't a lot of money left after all the prizes and the NYC party. The idea of the charities were to raise money for GDATW and the leftover would go to NRDC. She didn't mention anything about sending money to the NRDC. She said she had multiple ebay accounts because she claimed when she signed up that it was a charity thing. She didn't have the paperwork to prove it was a non-profit, and eBay/PayPal froze the accounts. That's why she started the other account + the Amazon page. She is currently in the hospital, but she said her daughter snuck in the phone for her to use. She went in for surgery as others have said, and because of the whole airline incident, she did try to commit suicide and they put her in the psych ward. She expects to be released tomorrow, and will be sending me a scan of her release papers on Friday so that I can confirm whatever I need to confirm with the hospital. I asked her about the military service, and told her that people had found discrepancies about her service and the purple heart she gave to Billie Joe. She said she was a medic in the army until she got hurt, then she was a dentist which was a "desk job because of the injuries I had". After the surgeries she had for her injuries, she ended up in the wheelchair (I'm pretty sure that's what the story was). She said she has documents about her military service and would be happy to send them to me if it meant helping confirm her story. She said it would take a couple weeks to sort out, she'll send them to me, then i can do whatever I need to confirm it. I still don't know everything about her military service, I'll do what I can to confirm whatever she sends me in a couple weeks. What's most important to me is as it concerns the members of this community. If you are still waiting for items, file for a refund. And also, Kat will be getting all of Dawn's stuff and she can help with whatever needs to be done. Like i said, she will send me confirmation about her hospital stay on Friday for me to confirm, and she'll get the charity receipts for me as well (hopefully on Friday too). Dawn also said she has no intention of working anymore on GDATW. She's handing over all the items she had to Kat, then if she wants to continue GDATW or GDA have any part of it, she said we can do whatever we want with that stuff. Like I said, I can't confirm the stuff she's told me yet. I hope I can confirm whatever documentation she does send me. But that's her side of the story and until I confirm it, I don't really know what else we can do besides encourage people to file a claim for a refund. Edit: I also want to point out that the reason she called me in the first place was because I saw her name online anonymosly. I sent a message, told her we needed answers, we deserved them, and if she refused to get in touch I would let you guys know that she didn't reply. I got a reply and it said it was her daughter. She said Dawn heard that people were talking about this, she asked her daughter to read it and tell her what was happening. Her daughter told her I sent a message looking for answers, so she called as soon as she could.

I think people want answers to everything. To stifle the conversation seems unfair, but at the same time i'd urge people now to focus more on what we can do to resolve the situation as best we can. We could go on for pages and pages about all the holes in the stories. It's obvious to everyone here now that there is so much wrong with how this turned out. I don't know what more we can achieve without the person themselves revealing it. I'm devastated it's come to this, but i think it's time to stop second guessing everything and move on to some extent. Move on to saving this undoubtedly good cause, which is now in pieces.

Quit getting pissy. Can you have a civil discussion about this without getting angry at me? I hardly think the situation with Erendy is comparable to this one, but fair enough. You'll notice I haven't passed any judgement on Dawn, and have been saying things like "allegedly untrue" and giving Kat (or Dawn, should she ever post) a chance to offer an explanation for all the holes in her story. I wasn't on the team when Maya did what she did, and if I had been, I may well have argued the exact same thing I'm arguing now. I really can't say for sure, because I wasn't there. My point is, people have been lied to and hurt, and lost both money and trust. I think they deserve some kind of closure for both those things, and as long as this thread doesn't become wild speculation (which it hasn't), a witch-hunt (which it hasn't), or a Dawn-bashing extravaganza (which it hasn't), I don't see anything wrong with people wanting to find out the truth about her claims.

Kat, I don't know you, but feel very sorry for you and everyone else involved with this woman. Her reputation is a total loss now (at least it appears that way in this community), but it's sad to see other people go down with her. If you really are "Switzerland," I'd ask you to really take a look at the facts as they've been presented and ask yourself what you really believe. Not what you WANT to believe, but what is actually believable to a reasonable person. It's very sad to me that you feel compelled to be her voice on this forum, when she is evidently reading it as well as making phone calls to you and others. She most certainly can and should speak for herself. I don't think her lousy excuses really deserve any more attention or time from the good people in this community - who are the overwhelming majority as evidenced by this thread. But out of respect for and, quite frankly, feeling insulted on behalf of people who I love and admire who are real veterans, have made real sacrifices, and people who have and who are *really* dying of cancer, I'm going to post the following: I thought she was in a mental hospital? Which is it? Liver surgery or suicide? And you know, I've run across several people in my life who, when backed into a corner with no way out of a fat stack of lies, start screaming they'll kill themselves so people will back off. That's why jails have suicide watch cells. To that I say, people who are really suicidal just do it. They don't call other people crying about it. That's just a plea for attention, and that has quite obviously been Dawn's goal in this whole situation. I think the attention thing backfired when she didn't think the American Airlines thing through all the way beforehand. She got everyone's attention then, but not in the way she'd hoped. And what kind of cancer does Dawn have? Has she told you? What stage is it in? Where is she in the hospital? I'm assuming this would be the other invisible military hospital near Ft. Hood or maybe another magical place that accepts Tricare or VA health insurance. If she's really a disabled vet, she's insured with Tricare and they pay Medicare rates. No private practice oncologist would accept that when she could be seen at the VA or Army hospitals. I know, because my husband is also a veteran, and before we had private health insurance, we had to go to the VA. By the way, who is her oncologist? Most people with terminal cancer are practically on a familial-level with their doctor. My best guess at this is that American Airlines has obtained an injunction against her speaking about the incident any further. Corporate lawyers are bulldogs and will go for blood. It's speculation, but I'd think that's why all the social media accounts disappeared at the same time. That, or she's gotten a threat of a lawsuit from them. Like I said, it's a guess - but I think it's a pretty good one. All I can say is PLEASE. Really? I'm glad that Dawn basically repeated verbatim to you what I posted a couple of pages ago about what soldiers receive when they are decorated. And no, she's quite wrong. The medal is perfectly replaceable. My grandfather's was destroyed in a house fire and it was replaced. People buy replacements every day. What you can't replace is an authentic DD214 showing which medals you are authorized to wear - and that's a DD214 coming from the archives, not from Dawn's Photoshop. I'd like to see a copy of hers. Where is that, by the way? They're public record under the Freedom of Information Act, and I'm sure Fox News requested one either before or after they ran her story. Everyone knows Fox loves a good soldier worship story. If she'd be so kind as to sign her name to this form, we could have a copy sent to you, and you could scan and post it for us. I won't hold my breath on that, though. Since she hasn't signed a check to NRDC or even bothered to message people about things they've paid for but not received, I doubt any real validation of her story is likely to take place. Could we see a picture of her Purple Heart certificate? Or even a picture of HER in Afghanistan... or Iraq. I don't know anyone who has been deployed who hasn't come back with pictures of that. Where is her combat Unit patch on her uniform? I don't know of a single soldier who's seen a deployment who would be seen without that on. I have a very good friend who graduated from West Point, class of '03, and who was actually deployed twice - once to Iraq and once to Afghanistan. He's out now, but I sent him a link to Dawn's interview, and this is what he had to say: "VERY IMPORTANT: SHE IS NOT WEARING A COMBAT UNIT PATCH ON HER RIGHT SHOULDER UNDER THE AMERICAN FLAG. Combat patches are a religion in the Army. If I was going to put on my uniform again, I can guarantee that my combat patch would be on the right shoulder sleeve. Basically it's the unit patch of any unit you have been to combat with. A bare right sleeve is a sign to other soldiers that you ain't shit and that you have not seen a deployment. You want to tell people that you have been to war. Why doesn't she have that on?" "Another weird thing. She is not wearing her rank on her ACU cap....There really isn't a reason why she wouldn't have her rank on her soft cap. If she was deployed, she would have worn the soft cap around the FOB when not on duty or patrol. No rank means that someone would have homed in on her ass to ask why she had no rank on her soft cap. Very weird. On a non-provable note, she has the look of one of my Mom's ER patients trying to get pain-killers. So strange here." The database I referred to was not the Purple Heart database, but the database kept of all US casualties in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. There are ZERO casualties listed in either place on the date Dawn gave in her interview. I doubt very seriously someone would get that date wrong, seeing as it has such a tremendous significance - and it would be noted on their Purple Heart certificate, as well. And no, your MOS is your job. You don't have a "day job" and a "war job." What you are in the military is what you do - whether stateside or deployed. If she were deployed as Dental Technician, her job would have been cleaning people's teeth, not going "on routine patrol." Even if we went so far as to give her the benefit of the doubt that she actually was a combat medic (and I don't, but for the sake of argument...), it's highly unlikely that she would have been on "routine patrol" with a combat arms unit. That's what male combat medics are for. Females still aren't allowed in combat arms positions in the US military. This has been emphasized by both my husband (who was combat arms, 19D - Cavalry Scout, and then a scout sniper) and our friend who is currently a full-bird Colonel in Army JAG Reserve. All that to say - her story is insulting to people who have seen real action, who have really been injured, and who have given up their lives fighting overseas. It cheapens those sacrifices, and I take exception to it for them. Again, she told Fallyn's friend that she's in a mental hospital? I guess that is one that also specializes in laparoscopic surguries?? Going out on another limb here, but I'm wondering if the "non-profit" status was just an attempt to avoid paying taxes off of all the money she was making planned to "donate." There are quite a few of us Green Day fans who have experience and knowledge with the legal system. I'd be willing to bet that she could have gotten this non-profit status for free - especially if she'd just done the paperwork herself. It's not that big of a deal. But then again, I still don't see the necessity of being a non-profit to donate to a non-profit. How about just ask people to donate to NRDC in honor of Green Day? Most charities give space on donations to the money to be in honor or memory of one. Good luck to you on that. I hope Dawn gets well, too. And I hope above all, that the people who have been wronged here get answers, apologies, and refunds, and that Dawn can be a big girl and issue all of the above - herself, and not through another hapless victim.

For those who didn't see, I heard at the club in Austin last week that they're just finishing the album up now, so a release next year looks very likely. I think that's almost quite obvious now. Bear in mind that wasn't from a direct source though.

May I have your attention please? May I have your attention please? Will the real Dawn Wilcox please stand up? I repeat, will the real Dawn Wilcox please stand up? We're gonna have a problem here...

If Dawn is watching this thread, i urge you to come forward and shed some light for all for us. It's the fairest thing to do. Ok, update for you guys. I've been in touch with Kat and she is in touch with Dawn. Kat is only able to access this by her phone at the moment, so she is going to post here tomorrow with some explanations for all of us. I think this could be a big step in the right direction to getting to a positive resolution with all of this.

Nevermind, I found it in her interview: "I wanted to see Green Day from the pit because I just wanted to feel like a normal person. Which is something that was taken from me on Feb. 15, 2006 in the IED explosion which took my ability to walk away." I plugged that date into the database. No casualties listed that date - in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Hi everyone, sorry I haven't been around lately. I still check in sometimes though and I seen this thread and just wanted to make a quick post. First off I think you guys are handling this brilliantly and it's very kind of you to try and sort this out a bit. I think this thread is a great idea so we can try and piece all our info together and come to some sort of conclusion and closure. Please nobody feel guilty or stupid or naive about any of this. None of us were in the wrong, nobody is going to naturally think someone is lying about such huge things for seemingly no reason. I and I think many others always felt some things seemed a little fishy and were uncomfortable with some aspects of this project. Taking into consideration what Dawn told us about her, I let a lot of that go, believing she needed to do it her way for comfort. Obviously now I know a lot of what she said about herself was not true. I don't doubt however that she's ill in some other ways which I think helps explain this situation a bit. I know we have to be careful about what we say of course. This is a somewhat random piece of info but I remember during the conversations before the event on here, people were giving opposing opinions to hers and confronting her about a few things and a new account popped up arguing alongside her. It was quite obviously her because the grammar, etc was the same and it was formatted to the left, that I remember clearly. Nobody seemed to say anything about that though, although maybe some others noticed. I wasn't going to say anything because I still felt quite bad for her and thought she was just very upset and passionate about her beliefs. I think also she stayed logged into that account for one post where it was meant to be her (Dawn) again. I hope you guys understand, I know it's a bit complicated. Thankfully I never ended up being monetarily involved. I had planned to collect money at the Irish event and send it to her though, to be donated but it never went ahead, party due to my suspicions and uncomfortableness but I didn't let on to anyone at the time. (Maybe I should have :\ but I think we were all a little unsure but never expected things to turn as messy as this.) Like I said, the Irish event ended up not happening anyways. I was the main team leader and was too ill at the time to sort it out and with no-one else that interested it just sort of disintegrated. It turned out I probably wouldn't have been able to go anyways. In hindsight, we probably should have stopped her from taking sole control of it all but I think we all seen how much she wanted that and with respect and admiration at the time we let her get on with it. Thinking about it, I doubt that whole web developer stealing her money thing was true, and maybe she made that site herself. It's hard to believe a web developer would make her a site on wix. I also doubt she put as much money into it as she claimed. It does however seem she put some money and a lot of (perhaps misplaced) effort into it. At the end of the day, I think she actually did want this event to happen and did want to donate to charity. I don't think she intentionally wanted to take people's money for herself or scam anyone, I just think she got extremely carried away and isn't thinking clearily. It seems to me that she desperately wanted recognition and praise and maybe approval from Green Day, esp Billie Joe. I could be entirely wrong of course. I think it all started to catch up with her recently and she realised she's been found out so that's why she's disappeared. I hope for everyone's sake she comes back and apologises, comes clean and rights some wrongs. That would be good. It's very unfortunate what happened but I suppose we should try to remember some nice things were still done by her and a lot of good still came from this all. Maybe even more good than bad. Good luck to everyone trying to get their money back and/or items and a sincere "that sucks ass" to people who donated money. Just remember you did it with brilliant intentions and we all know that. I got to say, the purple heart thing really upsets me though. :\ Billie Joe has been dealing with various incidents and fans for a looong time now though so I'm sure it wont matter that much. It just seems so wrong though. Even though it's upsetting, I kind of hope he finds out.. Maybe he already has, who knows. Anyways, I also hope Dawn finds whatever she was looking for and gets better soon. It's never too late to make a change and I do think she's a good person deep down. We all have our issues. Sorry I can't be of more help guys, if I remember/think of anything that could help I'll make sure to post.

I know this sounds really random, but the grammar in those emails is appalling. Was she so crackers that she just expected/hoped people would believe her and never find out what she's done ? I just think if you wanted to come across as a professional you'd try a lot harder.

I misheard the beginning of "Jaded" as "somebody take my pants, I think they're falling off" instead of "Somebody keep my balance I think I'm falling off". Actually in regard to the "saggy pants incident" somewhat funny.

Someone put a comment on YouTube for When I Come Around: "Well, I heard it all before. Sell donuts at my door." It so sounds like that.