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cover art for their new album: :lol: epic page own.

it's January 17th, 2012 ...and Kerplunk turns t-w-e-n-t-y we made a video for that, enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGXateWzbYA thanks to everyone who made that possible, green day fans are fucking great. ------------------------------------------ last September we made a video for the 7th anniversary of American Idiot. we had so much fun and we were so happy when it was posted on GDA , that we thought “how about making another one for kerplunk’s 20th anniversary? ” … so here we go!

K, this may be more appropriate to a new thread about stuff we decide to do together, but I have some thoughts about it now, so here goes. Any endeavor should start with principles - like, why are you doing this? As regards 'showing appreciation' to Green Day, I think that comes naturally with buying their records and coming together at their shows to celebrate with them. It comes with giving Billie Joe a 'hey-oh', for however millionth time he asks for it - it comes from just giving of ourselves in that moment, together. We can do other stuff that reinforces us as a community - giving advice and comfort when it's asked for, talking to each other, sharing our love of the music, contributing to this forum. As regards stuff like the environment, I think do it because you believe in it, not because it's something Green Day's involved with. I think, don't trade on their name, do it for its own sake and ask anyone who's like-minded to come with you if that's what they want to do. Be true. Don't offer prizes or accolades, because doing what you believe in doesn't require any of that. Be pure. Green Day's fucking great, but they're not - nor do I think they would ever want to be - some kind of altar at which to bring our offerings. That notion disrespects both us and them. Let us inspire each other and support each other, have fun together, and most of all, fucking rock out together.

This thread has been fascinating to follow for the past few days. I stayed away from GDATW from the start, partly because the planning seemed weak and partly because I was short on both time and interest. As the weeks progressed, I raised my eyebrows more than a few times. Though some things were sketchy, I couldn't tell which aspects of the story were genuine and which were a scam. It seems like the community has reached a consensus that Dawn lied on several accounts. When someone breaks trust like that, it can't be recovered, no matter how many documents the offender digs out from old boxes. Regardless of where the truth lies, Dawn won't be able to convince our whole forum of her innocence. Having said that, it's been interesting to see GDC, as a family, rebound from this whole catastrophe. It speaks bounds the mod team cared to reach out to the rest of the forum, even though GDATW was not a GDA-controlled event. In light of all that's happened, a day when we get together to celebrate the band we adore will be even more special and meaningful next year. I can't wait to be part of it.

it's symbolic though. Society is twisted (like a carpet), it's rolled up really tight because there is no room for new ideas. We're stuck in a rut, and all we can think about is superficial things such as dieting. The media distracts us from the more important issues, and, in the process stripes women of their confidence. That's why the carpet is the only thing that's in colour, it's all she can see. obviously.

>everyone in thread is Andres God damn that confused me.

I'm curious to know what far-out claims you're referring to because I haven't seen any in this thread. All the claims I've seen have been reasonable and backed up with a fair amount of evidence (and where evidence is lacking people have been quick to say they're not sure and that they want to find out more before they draw conclusions). If any of the accusations are false then they're over things that would be easy for Dawn to explain or prove if she was telling the truth about them - she's free to do that and hopefully she will.

Write "Carpet Diet" on pieces of paper, take them to the next secret Green Day gigs (if there will be more) and make sure everyone near the stage holds them up. It worked before..

"We'll call Lady Gaga! Hey! Hey! (Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.) Well death to the one with the poker face."

Crap Diem.

if there were to be a last Green Day album it would be called Apocalypse because thats exactly what would happening to the world

Billie has puppy eyes

Thanks for bringing this up! I'm excited to hear Mr. Freese's grooves in the new songs as well. I think adding a little 60s-style organ to the new tracks would enhance the atmosphere they already have.

Oh totally. Why are you always so right? Are you a ninja-turkey? (Sorry, I couldn't help myself)

Right But I didn't want to offend the American Idiot anniversary video

TOTALLY! no doubt about it!

haha yeah i thought that (it's kinda obvious, but my brain doesn't work good, cos now it's weekend...wait, do i even have a brain?? ) and yeah it's hilarious

Count me in this sounds fucking awesome! I can't wait Oh yeah and the american idiot video was epic!

Whoop! Count me in! (loved this last time!)

And if you need the audio again, I can send it to you like I did with Letterbomb.

well, after i decided which lyrics i wanna take, i look what i can do with it ...the idea i had would be perfect for everything, but...damn, i can't say it, cos i don't want that anyone steals my idea

I am so excited for this video!!! The last video we made was so fun! I can't wait to participate in this and "Who Wrote Holden Caulfield" is an awesome song, too

Alright, sounds fair No, it's not so much that I can't wait, I was just wondering why ^^

ok, i wanna take part of that, but i don't know how to make it...i got a great idea, but it doesn't work so yeah maybe i'll take part of it ;D anyway, i'm sooo excited

cool .

This sounds awesome! I wanna take part

Yay! I'm so excited for this!

I'm rolling on the floor right now!

Dave Grohl should produce it. See what a good job he did on Wasting Light?!

Yeah, I'm very interested in starting the project and doing it as part of our site. We'll definitely be talking about it sometime after the new year.

The way the money GDATW raised was donated really rubs me the wrong way. People who had bought all these items for the charity had no idea where their money was going, Dawn just gave other peoples money to whatever charity she wanted without consulting anyone as far as I can tell. Granted I didn't keep up with the event all that much, but I thought all(?) the money was to go to NRDC as it was an environmental day. It is incredibly unprofessional that according to Kat she was to give $2500 to NRDC but ended up giving it to Red Cross instead. I'm not saying it's not a worthy cause, but she can't just change the entire direction of the money just because she felt it was right (or because Billie tweeted about it...), it was not her money to donate wherever she wished.

You know what, what she did was wrong, avoiding us was wrong, but it seems like everything should be settled now. I understand that you're all mad, but honestly, live and let live. Move the fuck on. I've never agreed with this witch hunt, its not worth it.

I think there's a loss that people here are feeling on two levels. One level is the loss of money, where the solution is pretty simple (refunds, filing claims, etc). The other level is a loss of trust. If it turns out that Dawn lied, she lied to our entire community, multiple times. That's a pretty big deal, and even if it's not as pressing as people resolving their money issues, it's still certainly of importance. See, that's not really fair, because we were drawn into her personal life. This wasn't something she kept on the back-burner. She was telling everyone she met, including the band we all know and love, things that are potentially entirely false. It's not like we're snooping around in her personal affairs, trying to find ways to prove she's a bad person. She pretty much did that on her own. We were all led to believe plenty of things that are allegedly completely untrue, and it's not fair to tell people who want some kind of closure from that to go somewhere else.

Hopefully those weren't in the same box in her garage as the pictures from the club in Tampa from 1991.

99 Stray Nuclear Revolutions. 8)

For those who didn't see, I heard at the club in Austin last week that they're just finishing the album up now, so a release next year looks very likely. I think that's almost quite obvious now. Bear in mind that wasn't from a direct source though.

GDC Day. Regarding the cancer and the hair: At the Tiki Bar show my friend stood behind her (and had also sat next to her back in Feb at Johns Pizza in NYC) I texted her and asked about Dawns hair at the Tiki Bar and she said it was long and she had a wig on. The exact same wig she had on in NYC when we were at the musical. (which would have been before she was diagnosed) And I said how do you know it was a wig? she said I kinda rubbed the top of her head to get her attention, so I could tell her her hair was pretty. She said Dawn looked at her gave her a dirty look and turned back around.

Nevermind, I found it in her interview: "I wanted to see Green Day from the pit because I just wanted to feel like a normal person. Which is something that was taken from me on Feb. 15, 2006 in the IED explosion which took my ability to walk away." I plugged that date into the database. No casualties listed that date - in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Hi everyone, sorry I haven't been around lately. I still check in sometimes though and I seen this thread and just wanted to make a quick post. First off I think you guys are handling this brilliantly and it's very kind of you to try and sort this out a bit. I think this thread is a great idea so we can try and piece all our info together and come to some sort of conclusion and closure. Please nobody feel guilty or stupid or naive about any of this. None of us were in the wrong, nobody is going to naturally think someone is lying about such huge things for seemingly no reason. I and I think many others always felt some things seemed a little fishy and were uncomfortable with some aspects of this project. Taking into consideration what Dawn told us about her, I let a lot of that go, believing she needed to do it her way for comfort. Obviously now I know a lot of what she said about herself was not true. I don't doubt however that she's ill in some other ways which I think helps explain this situation a bit. I know we have to be careful about what we say of course. This is a somewhat random piece of info but I remember during the conversations before the event on here, people were giving opposing opinions to hers and confronting her about a few things and a new account popped up arguing alongside her. It was quite obviously her because the grammar, etc was the same and it was formatted to the left, that I remember clearly. Nobody seemed to say anything about that though, although maybe some others noticed. I wasn't going to say anything because I still felt quite bad for her and thought she was just very upset and passionate about her beliefs. I think also she stayed logged into that account for one post where it was meant to be her (Dawn) again. I hope you guys understand, I know it's a bit complicated. Thankfully I never ended up being monetarily involved. I had planned to collect money at the Irish event and send it to her though, to be donated but it never went ahead, party due to my suspicions and uncomfortableness but I didn't let on to anyone at the time. (Maybe I should have :\ but I think we were all a little unsure but never expected things to turn as messy as this.) Like I said, the Irish event ended up not happening anyways. I was the main team leader and was too ill at the time to sort it out and with no-one else that interested it just sort of disintegrated. It turned out I probably wouldn't have been able to go anyways. In hindsight, we probably should have stopped her from taking sole control of it all but I think we all seen how much she wanted that and with respect and admiration at the time we let her get on with it. Thinking about it, I doubt that whole web developer stealing her money thing was true, and maybe she made that site herself. It's hard to believe a web developer would make her a site on wix. I also doubt she put as much money into it as she claimed. It does however seem she put some money and a lot of (perhaps misplaced) effort into it. At the end of the day, I think she actually did want this event to happen and did want to donate to charity. I don't think she intentionally wanted to take people's money for herself or scam anyone, I just think she got extremely carried away and isn't thinking clearily. It seems to me that she desperately wanted recognition and praise and maybe approval from Green Day, esp Billie Joe. I could be entirely wrong of course. I think it all started to catch up with her recently and she realised she's been found out so that's why she's disappeared. I hope for everyone's sake she comes back and apologises, comes clean and rights some wrongs. That would be good. It's very unfortunate what happened but I suppose we should try to remember some nice things were still done by her and a lot of good still came from this all. Maybe even more good than bad. Good luck to everyone trying to get their money back and/or items and a sincere "that sucks ass" to people who donated money. Just remember you did it with brilliant intentions and we all know that. I got to say, the purple heart thing really upsets me though. :\ Billie Joe has been dealing with various incidents and fans for a looong time now though so I'm sure it wont matter that much. It just seems so wrong though. Even though it's upsetting, I kind of hope he finds out.. Maybe he already has, who knows. Anyways, I also hope Dawn finds whatever she was looking for and gets better soon. It's never too late to make a change and I do think she's a good person deep down. We all have our issues. Sorry I can't be of more help guys, if I remember/think of anything that could help I'll make sure to post.

I want to add that i think there is a danger that Dawn is vilified for this, when it's possible that she had good intentions and never went out to purposely scam people for money. I do believe she is very sick and that is a big contributor to all of this.

I misheard the beginning of "Jaded" as "somebody take my pants, I think they're falling off" instead of "Somebody keep my balance I think I'm falling off". Actually in regard to the "saggy pants incident" somewhat funny.

some "water",little sweat, and lot of beer