BRAIN_STEW1039 Posted Saturday at 06:51 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:51 PM as always, give reasons. don't just be like 'yeah, I hate American Idiot because it just sucks' like stfu. anyway, give real answers and real reasons. my least favorite is prob Tre!. Tre! isn't a bad album, its got some decent riffs and OK songwriting, but none of the songs really stuck. not that catchy, not really good but not exactly bad. its just a very mediocer album.(probably not spelling that right, leave my middle-school spelling alone) sorry for all of the people who like Tre!, I'm not hating I just don't really like it. so ig that is hating?? wtv, just give your answers pls and thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayJunkie86 Posted Saturday at 11:53 PM Share Posted Saturday at 11:53 PM Father of All. Though I wasn't a fan of it initially, as I listen to it more, it is starting to grow on me. Still, not my favorite, but that doesn't mean it's bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Dude Posted Sunday at 12:32 AM Share Posted Sunday at 12:32 AM Kerplunk. I know, I know. It's a great album but it's the one I revisit the least. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedirntseviltwin Posted Sunday at 01:01 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:01 AM Dos, probably. I love Uno! And Tre!, but Dos is kinda forgettable. Stray Heart kicks ass tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumpelstiltskin2000 Posted Sunday at 01:10 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:10 AM I don't really have one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayJunkie86 Posted Sunday at 01:34 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:34 AM 1 hour ago, That Dude said: Kerplunk. I know, I know. It's a great album but it's the one I revisit the least. I'm speechless......................... lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowshesgone Posted Sunday at 01:34 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:34 AM i dont hate any GD album per say, but UNO and FOA have some songs that drag both albums down for me UNO has -Angle Blue -Troublemaker and FOA has -Father Of All -Ready Fire Aim -Oh Yeah -Meet Me on the Roof 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDayJunkie86 Posted Sunday at 01:36 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:36 AM Just now, nowshesgone said: i dont have any GD album per say, but UNO and FOA have some songs that drag both albums down for me UNO has -Angle Blue -Troublemaker and FOA has -Father Of All -Ready Fire Aim -Oh Yeah -Meet Me on the Roof Yeah Father of All just doesn't have that Green Day feeling to me. The songs on the album are kind of shallow. The special effects on his voice also make it sound weird to me. But I do have to say, it is growing on a me a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted Sunday at 01:44 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:44 AM FOAM, because it doesn’t feel like a Green Day album to me. In general Green Day is just not a “sex, drugs, and rock n roll” band — their music is warmer and more emotionally-based to me — and that’s pretty much all that album is. I think it’s what they wanted to make at that time and that’s fine, but I really don’t even count it in their discography because of how un-Green Day it feels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikedirntseviltwin Posted Sunday at 02:06 AM Share Posted Sunday at 02:06 AM FOAM is a really, really rad....Foxboro Hot Tubs album. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenalert997x Posted Sunday at 08:01 AM Share Posted Sunday at 08:01 AM Besides FOAM, I have to admit it's... Kerplunk! I know this album is loved by mamy, but as a whole Kerplunk never grabbed my attention. I only like it... I never had in on repeat to be totally immersed and captivated. I really like One For The Razorbacks, Christie Road, 80 but not the rest to be honest. But interestingly enough, I love 39/Smooth. I had a phase when I'd would listen to it on repeat, totally immersed. The same with other GD albums, but not Kerplunk. I'd rather put some FOAM songs like MMOTR, TTMAC (which are great) above Kerplunks - Dominated Love Slave, Sweet Chilsren, Strangeland, My Generation and Welcome to Paradise. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris. Posted Sunday at 12:49 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:49 PM Dos! It has some good songs in it, but the bad ones are really bad, for my taste at least. 11 hours ago, nowshesgone said: i dont hate any GD album per say, but UNO and FOA have some songs that drag both albums down for me UNO has -Angle Blue -Troublemaker and FOA has -Father Of All -Ready Fire Aim -Oh Yeah -Meet Me on the Roof I actually love Oh Yeah. I'm not that adverse to FOAM, I think if it had come out when the the Trilogy did I would have disliked it just as much as the Trilogy, but when I first heard it I was quite ready to take it for what it is, a fun album. I agree it's the least Green Day sounding album of all, but it's just fun... even watching some interviews from that era I get the feeling that that's all they wanted, a bit of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian's Inferno! Posted Sunday at 01:27 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:27 PM Father of All. By a long shot. I will say the 2nd half isn't that bad but considering how short it is, having a handful of alright songs isn't enough for a Green Day album. Stab You in the Heart is the one I enjoy the most, even if it's unoriginal. A lot of the better tracks are made worse by odd production and/or vocal choices and the worst songs like Oh Yeah and IWATT just straight up suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhuzzyPhriend Posted Sunday at 02:41 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:41 PM 1 hour ago, Christian's Inferno! said: Father of All. By a long shot. I will say the 2nd half isn't that bad but considering how short it is, having a handful of alright songs isn't enough for a Green Day album. Stab You in the Heart is the one I enjoy the most, even if it's unoriginal. A lot of the better tracks are made worse by odd production and/or vocal choices and the worst songs like Oh Yeah and IWATT just straight up suck. Completely agree with this. Also my less favorite album, but the deep cuts are so much better than the singles, and the whole album would have been much better with different production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grohl Posted Sunday at 05:17 PM Share Posted Sunday at 05:17 PM Either Dos or Tre. Both have standout songs on them (I mean...Brutal Love!) but as a whole they don't really hold my attention. While I can stomach listening to Uno front to back, I tend to skip around the most on Dos and especially Tre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solongfromthestars Posted Monday at 08:03 AM Share Posted Monday at 08:03 AM Saviors. There are some amazing songs on it, but it's the only Green Day album with more than five songs I don't care about and two that I hate. Still think it should get more love on the SAVIORS Tour though, especially because I'm in a minority and the rest of the fandom seems to be listening to a different album that they prefer to My Precious, the trilogy. Father of All isn't my favourite Green Day album by any means and the whole era made my skin crawl, but I think it's actually a very emotional record. A lot of the 'sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll' stuff is ironic because it's addressing the dark side of fame, but Billie felt self-conscious since he was writing about being rich for the first time when his audience tends to be working-class. Meet Me on the Roof sounds like a cheerful song about casual romance, but he sings 'all you have to do is jump' and 'I'm taking drowning lessons' so it's actually not cheerful at all; he's asking his lover to jump off the roof with him, Romeo and Juliet style. Then by Sugar Youth he's saying 'I don't wanna be a Romeo' - he doesn't actually want to die for this love - despite the obvious longing for the subject since the trilogy era. There are only four Green Day songs I hate and one is Junkies on a High, but it's a shame it sounds like a soundtrack to a knock off skateboarding PS1 game because the lyrics are great. Other than the title because what else are junkies on? I know it's a metaphor for money and fame, but still. I could continue, but I hate typing on my phone and I'm passing the time until my laundry is ready, which it nearly is. You get the idea. Whoever would've thought I'd be writing an essay about Father of All? 😂 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted Monday at 08:19 AM Share Posted Monday at 08:19 AM I haven’t contributed before because I’m just not a person that gives things ratings, I never say something is my favourite or anything, I’ll just say if I love it. Had to comment though due to @solongfromthestars post just because it’s so fascinating, the differing opinions the same music generates among fans. Junkies on a high is a favourite of mine,I just love it and I really love Saviors too, only song I really dislike, and have since I first heard it, is Amy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris. Posted Monday at 09:23 AM Share Posted Monday at 09:23 AM 15 hours ago, The Grohl said: Either Dos or Tre. Both have standout songs on them (I mean...Brutal Love!) but as a whole they don't really hold my attention. While I can stomach listening to Uno front to back, I tend to skip around the most on Dos and especially Tre. Yes! Exactly! I think I rank Dos below Tre because Tre has Brutal Love in it which is the best song in the whole Trilogy, in my opinion. While the good songs in Dos and Tre beat the good songs in Uno, the bad songs in Uno are not that bad, so it's easy to sit through the whole thing. 1 hour ago, solongfromthestars said: Saviors. There are some amazing songs on it, but it's the only Green Day album with more than five songs I don't care about and two that I hate. Still think it should get more love on the SAVIORS Tour though, especially because I'm in a minority and the rest of the fandom seems to be listening to a different album that they prefer to My Precious, the trilogy. Father of All isn't my favourite Green Day album by any means and the whole era made my skin crawl, but I think it's actually a very emotional record. A lot of the 'sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll' stuff is ironic because it's addressing the dark side of fame, but Billie felt self-conscious since he was writing about being rich for the first time when his audience tends to be working-class. Meet Me on the Roof sounds like a cheerful song about casual romance, but he sings 'all you have to do is jump' and 'I'm taking drowning lessons' so it's actually not cheerful at all; he's asking his lover to jump off the roof with him, Romeo and Juliet style. Then by Sugar Youth he's saying 'I don't wanna be a Romeo' - he doesn't actually want to die for this love - despite the obvious longing for the subject since the trilogy era. There are only four Green Day songs I hate and one is Junkies on a High, but it's a shame it sounds like a soundtrack to a knock off skateboarding PS1 game because the lyrics are great. Other than the title because what else are junkies on? I know it's a metaphor for money and fame, but still. I could continue, but I hate typing on my phone and I'm passing the time until my laundry is ready, which it nearly is. You get the idea. Whoever would've thought I'd be writing an essay about Father of All? 😂 Out of curiosity, which are the songs that you have from Saviors? For me Father to a Son was great the first time I heard it, but it got boring pretty fast. And Suzie Chapstick, I know it's one of the fan favorites, but I just can't get into it... the lyrics are great, but the music, ugh. And it's very interesting to read your perspective on FOAM actually, so thanks for the essay. I agree with you regarding Meet Me on the Roof, the music is cheerful but the lyrics have always sounded quite dark, which is a juxtaposition I tend to enjoy. And you are right, when I qualified it before as "fun" album, I feel I should have qualified it instead as "not to be taken too seriously". The artwork, even they acted in some of the interviews they did to promote it, it all screams to not take it too seriously. And I had never thought of that in the light of Billie feeling self-conscious about singing about fame and money so openly, but now that you point it out it makes perfect sense. It's like when you are embarrassed to admit some deep truth, so you try to pass it off as joke. 1 hour ago, jengd said: I haven’t contributed before because I’m just not a person that gives things ratings, I never say something is my favourite or anything, I’ll just say if I love it. Had to comment though due to @solongfromthestars post just because it’s so fascinating, the differing opinions the same music generates among fans. Junkies on a high is a favourite of mine,I just love it and I really love Saviors too, only song I really dislike, and have since I first heard it, is Amy. I'm with you on Amy (and I know there are many people who like). But for me The Forgotten is also equally bad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted Monday at 10:32 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:32 AM See, I really love The Forgotten though it’s a difficult song for me as I almost felt like the video was saying goodbye, which at the time felt like a real possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingle Posted Monday at 11:27 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:27 AM 3 hours ago, jengd said: I haven’t contributed before because I’m just not a person that gives things ratings, I never say something is my favourite or anything, I’ll just say if I love it. Had to comment though due to @solongfromthestars post just because it’s so fascinating, the differing opinions the same music generates among fans. Junkies on a high is a favourite of mine,I just love it and I really love Saviors too, only song I really dislike, and have since I first heard it, is Amy. Have to agree. But firstly respect everyone's views coz that's what this forum is all about. I just can't put down any song or album by Billie Joe. When I first heard GD through Kerplunk in '91 as a young teen it not only changed my life it saved my life. The music was so different and amazing, but also his lyrics kept my life together with autism. And always has. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jengd Posted Monday at 12:47 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:47 PM Didn’t think I was disrespecting anyone’s views?! Certainly didn’t mean to, as I said it’s fascinating. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saviour Posted Monday at 01:15 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:15 PM IMO, FOAMF because it's just really, really not a very good album. Like, at all. Especially when you factor in the consistently high quality of their other output. That whole period feels like a strange mid-life crisis fever dream of an experiment that really didn't work. The marketing. The artwork. The over-production. It's like if the NFL commissioned an album of tracks for their end-of-season montages. Even as a Foxboro Hot Tubs album it would be worse than Stop, Drop and Roll!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post solongfromthestars Posted Monday at 02:12 PM Popular Post Share Posted Monday at 02:12 PM 3 hours ago, jengd said: I haven’t contributed before because I’m just not a person that gives things ratings, I never say something is my favourite or anything, I’ll just say if I love it. Had to comment though due to @solongfromthestars post just because it’s so fascinating, the differing opinions the same music generates among fans. Junkies on a high is a favourite of mine,I just love it and I really love Saviors too, only song I really dislike, and have since I first heard it, is Amy. My opinions tend to be unpopular to be fair I've seen a lot of people saying the only song they like from Father of All is Junkies on a High. I love Amy - actually, ¡Dos! is my second favourite Green Day album - but it seems most fans hate at least a few songs from it. I didn't think you were disrespecting anyone by the way. 2 hours ago, Cris. said: Out of curiosity, which are the songs that you have from Saviors? For me Father to a Son was great the first time I heard it, but it got boring pretty fast. And Suzie Chapstick, I know it's one of the fan favorites, but I just can't get into it... the lyrics are great, but the music, ugh. And it's very interesting to read your perspective on FOAM actually, so thanks for the essay. I agree with you regarding Meet Me on the Roof, the music is cheerful but the lyrics have always sounded quite dark, which is a juxtaposition I tend to enjoy. And you are right, when I qualified it before as "fun" album, I feel I should have qualified it instead as "not to be taken too seriously". The artwork, even they acted in some of the interviews they did to promote it, it all screams to not take it too seriously. And I had never thought of that in the light of Billie feeling self-conscious about singing about fame and money so openly, but now that you point it out it makes perfect sense. It's like when you are embarrassed to admit some deep truth, so you try to pass it off as joke. I'm with you on Amy (and I know there are many people who like). But for me The Forgotten is also equally bad. Father to a Son and Dilemma. I know Father to a Son isn't that popular (although some do love it), but I don't think I've seen anyone other than me saying they hate Dilemma. I may be biased because of the bad experiences I've had with loved ones drinking though. I'd still say I like Saviors, just not as much as Green Day's other work. I think the way Billie in particular behaved in the Father of All interviews was down to booze, drugs and what you described - making a joke of something serious, which was his struggle with fame. Even the artwork refers to that; it's mocking the album that made him so famous (American Idiot). As I've said many times, I'm so into the dark side of fame and fandom that wrote my dissertation on it, so I really enjoy that aspect of the album 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio victim Posted Monday at 03:29 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:29 PM Probably between Uno and FOA. Uno has some less than stellar lyrics and I find the experience of listening to it as a whole often kind of boring as songs like Loss of Control, Angel Blue and Fell For You are very uninteresting also Troublemaker has some atrocious lyrics even though I do love it's solo. As for FOA I will say it has greatly grown on me since first listen, I initially loathed it but tracks like FOA, Take The Money and Crawl, Sugar Youth and Graffitia have greatly grown on me and Fire Ready Aim and Junkies On a High are okay, however it still has some absolutely awful tracks like Oh Yeah! and Teenage teenager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted Monday at 03:54 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:54 PM 1 hour ago, solongfromthestars said: I think the way Billie in particular behaved in the Father of All interviews was down to booze, drugs and what you described - making a joke of something serious, which was his struggle with fame. Even the artwork refers to that; it's mocking the album that made him so famous (American Idiot). As I've said many times, I'm so into the dark side of fame and fandom that wrote my dissertation on it, so I really enjoy that aspect of the album I said FOAM was about “sex, drugs, and rock n roll” but definitely meant it in the dark sense too. I think whenever they theme an album around that it gets very dark, and that’s where my discomfort comes from — they try to make it lighthearted in interviews and stuff, but it’s scary material, and so them trying to put a super self-destructive “let’s just PARTY” sheen over top makes me deeply worried and uncomfortable. In an objective sense I find the dark side of fame fascinating, but it’s hard for me to digest if I feel like Billie himself is not in a good place when promoting it, because I want him to be okay. I love dark music and themes and Billie is great at writing that way, but when it’s a whole album of nothing but that mixed with weird marketing, things get strange fast. I get why they’d try to play it off in interviews as NBD, but the promo cycle colored my impression of the album in a bad way, I think, and I never got past that. All of Billie’s “I was sober for a while but I’m drinking and fine now, let the good times roll!” was just really gutting. And the material itself, IMO, also just sounds more side-projecty than a Green Day album to me. That said, I actually do love Junkies on a High. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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